Author Topic: GOV. PERRY: DONALD TRUMP’S COMMENTS MAKE HIM UNFIT TO BE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF  (Read 14020 times)

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Offline olde north church

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1.  I'm not a so-con, so the first thing I would do is not fall for the bait.

2.  Fiscal policy, real fiscal policy.  Low taxes on the rich, raise taxes on the poor.

3.  Get the hell out of bedrooms and boardrooms.

Stop with the bureaucracies, just don't appoint people to head them, let them die withering deaths.
Spend 1 year UNDOING/removing laws.
Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

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MAC wrote above:
[[ My representative is Joe Wilson, a member of the Republican Study Committee.  Did calling Obama a liar make him a coward? ]]

(sigh)
I wish that I had someone like that to vote for.

But here in Connecticut?
Never happen...

Find a potential candidate for your district who supports the agenda of the RSC and try to get him or her elected.  The 4th and 5th Districts seem possible over time.  The rest are hopeless.
It's the Supreme Court nominations!

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Stop with the bureaucracies, just don't appoint people to head them, let them die withering deaths.
Spend 1 year UNDOING/removing laws.

Well, you did answer my question.  No comments past that.   ^-^
It's the Supreme Court nominations!

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Stop with the bureaucracies, just don't appoint people to head them, let them die withering deaths.
Spend 1 year UNDOING/removing laws.

Of course..it's so easy..damn why didn't I think of that?  Arfgh..

Offline Luis Gonzalez

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Luis wrote above:
[[ In order to govern you must first win elections. In order to win elections you must win the center. ]]

There isn't much of a "center" any more.

And what's left of it .... is shrinking....

You're patently wrong.

A record-high number of Americans are registered independents nt identifying with either Party or either Party's politics.

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You're patently wrong.

A record-high number of Americans are registered independents nt identifying with either Party or either Party's politics.

I would submit that a great many of these independents are conservatives that are sick of the GOP.  In fact, I personally know several people that left the party because of that reason.  A lot of people are sick of both parties - that doesn't necessarily make them moderate.  I'm sure that number will grow too. 

 
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I would submit that a great many of these independents are conservatives that are sick of the GOP.  In fact, I personally know several people that left the party because of that reason.  A lot of people are sick of both parties - that doesn't necessarily make them moderate.  I'm sure that number will grow too.
One thing I known about Independents: More of them fall into a category of "fiscally conservative, socially liberal/libertarian," than any other single category.

Independents lean slightly more Republican than democrat. In the latest poll, for every five Republicans there are eight Independents.

Republican 25% *
democrat 31%
Independent 41%

Republican including leaners 43%
democrat including leaners 45%

* down 13% since Nov. 2004, the last Republican win

gallup

http://www.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx
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Agree.  So there is no hope for a balanced budget or sanity in government because only the "right wing" wants that.
So lets adopt socialism now and get it over with.

The last time that we had a balanced budget Clinton was President and the GOP controlled both chambers of Congress.

The trickle down economy of Reagan, coupled with 41's broken "read my lips" tax promise and the tech boom made for the perfect fiscal storm.

Clinton had nothing to do with it, but he took the credit nevertheless.

Bush 43 had the advantage of Congress but 9/11 derailed the economy. Then came the housing crash.

You can lay that one on Clinton and the Democratic take over of Congress in 2007.   
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I would submit that a great many of these independents are conservatives that are sick of the GOP.  In fact, I personally know several people that left the party because of that reason.  A lot of people are sick of both parties - that doesn't necessarily make them moderate.  I'm sure that number will grow too.

The overwhelming percentage of the population is not us.

We think that it is because we tend to hang out with people like us and we spend time in places like this, but we are far outnumbered by people whose mentality on issues is a mis-mosh of ideologies, or who simply don't give much thought to them.

Apolitical people instinctively reject any extreme. They don't approve of limitless abortion, but they don't think abortion should be banned. They're all over the place on guns where they understand that people have a right to own them, but they want them controlled, etc.

We are the minority and the majority don't much care for politics.

That's who the Feds govern to, and that's why we're always disappointed.
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The overwhelming percentage of the population is not us.

We think that it is because we tend to hang out with people like us and we spend time in places like this, but we are far outnumbered by people whose mentality on issues is a mis-mosh of ideologies, or who simply don't give much thought to them.

Apolitical people instinctively reject any extreme. They don't approve of limitless abortion, but they don't think abortion should be banned. They're all over the place on guns where they understand that people have a right to own them, but they want them controlled, etc.

We are the minority and the majority don't much care for politics.

That's who the Feds govern to, and that's why we're always disappointed.

Great post.

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Of course..it's so easy..damn why didn't I think of that?  Arfgh..

The opportunity was there.  It was wasted.
Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

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And actually I'm quite surprised.  People who claim to be politically astuted are having their chains yanked by the very MEDIA they claim not to trust.  Attkinson (?) has come out more than once to state the Trump interview WAS/IS a misrepresentation of the interview but WTF, if it suits your political agenda and appetites, what the Hell.
Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves, watching and commenting on politics like it's some tramp and her family gallavanting around the globe.  I'm surprised I haven't read about Levin ranting and carrying on like some lunatic. 
A candidate is a vessel to the unwashed.  A place to put desires and wants.  A candidate should be more to those in the know. 
Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

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And actually I'm quite surprised.  People who claim to be politically astuted are having their chains yanked by the very MEDIA they claim not to trust.  Attkinson (?) has come out more than once to state the Trump interview WAS/IS a misrepresentation of the interview but WTF, if it suits your political agenda and appetites, what the Hell.
Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves, watching and commenting on politics like it's some tramp and her family gallavanting around the globe.  I'm surprised I haven't read about Levin ranting and carrying on like some lunatic. 
A candidate is a vessel to the unwashed.  A place to put desires and wants.  A candidate should be more to those in the know.

Here we have 6 1/2 years of Obama as CiC. And over here we have John McCain, the Democrat's favorite republican.

When you juxtapose those two things against all the panties in a snit over Trump's comment that supposedly disqualifies him as CiC, and it all seems just ludicrous.

A good commander-in-chief has only to listen to the military experts and advisers and then make a decision with America's welfare in mind.

Trump became a success by knowing the value of picking the best people to advise him and then actually listening to them. Any good patriot could be a good commander-in-chief. Which, as you know, immediately disqualifies Obama.

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Here we have 6 1/2 years of Obama as CiC. And over here we have John McCain, the Democrat's favorite republican.

When you juxtapose those two things against all the panties in a snit over Trump's comment that supposedly disqualifies him as CiC, and it all seems just ludicrous.

A good commander-in-chief has only to listen to the military experts and advisers and then make a decision with America's welfare in mind.

Trump became a success by knowing the value of picking the best people to advise him and then actually listening to them. Any good patriot could be a good commander-in-chief. Which, as you know, immediately disqualifies Obama.

Trump doesn't want to be POTUS today any more than he wanted to be President in 2012. Why on Earth would be want that thankless job?

Trump is all about the Trump brand and advancing that brand is what he's doing right now.

I also think that he's a stalking horse for Hillary.

The Clintons remember Ross Perot, but the rest of us seek to have forgotten.
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Trump doesn't want to be POTUS today any more than he wanted to be President in 2012. Why on Earth would be want that thankless job?

Trump is all about the Trump brand and advancing that brand is what he's doing right now.

I also think that he's a stalking horse for Hillary.

The Clintons remember Ross Perot, but the rest of us seek to have forgotten.

That's sounds a little conspiratorial there, Luis. Uncharacteristic of you.

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That's sounds a little conspiratorial there, Luis. Uncharacteristic of you.

Politics are all about strategy, not ideology. That's what people in political forums never seem to get. Politicians use ideology to garner votes and financial support.

Trump is, at best, a moderate Democrat. That's just a fact.

His chumminess with the Cllntons, his donations to the Clinton Foundation, his "Oprah for Veep" crap, his stances on abortion, gun control, taxing "the rich" and single-payer healthcare actually pushes him closer to the Warren/Sanders wing of the Democratic Party than to the centrist wing.

These people are vying for the job of POTUS, a job that wields immense power and yields even greater benefits.

To think that there may be machinations in place that may influence the outcome of the race to benefit a party that we all KNOW to be infamous for such machinations is not engaging in conspiratorial theorism; that's just acknowledging the reality of the dirty nature of world-stage politics and how the Clintons play that game.

To think otherwise is naive. 
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I'm sorry, but what kind of "greater benefits" would someone as wealthy as Trump wish to wring out of government service?

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This dumb-assed remark gives everybody in the world an excuse to pound Trump into submission.  He'll be forced to apologize before the end of the day tomorrow.

How would you have felt if Hillary had said this? Trump's a joke and has diarrhea of the mouth.

The one thing I will disagree with your comments, is the part of him apologizing. It is not in him to say he was wrong. I would place my money on him doubling down again, and saying something else stupid before the end of the day tomorrow.   

As noted on a story running on the Blaze today, " Donald Trump is a fraud. I’d call him a fool, but he’s worse than a fool; he’s a phony who makes fools out of other people. And, no, he’s not making fools out of liberals — trust me, they couldn’t be happier with the guy.

By the Trump Disciples he being hailed as the right wing messiah, and all who oppose the new savior must hand over their conservative membership cards and be cast out into the desert. "
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I'm sorry, but what kind of "greater benefits" would someone as wealthy as Trump wish to wring out of government service?

Trump certainly doesn't need to acquire any more needed benefits, but the "power" of the presidency is obviously what he is seeking.  He has taken focus off of the other candidates by his outspoken candor which has brought him an enormous amount of media attention and gave him a boost in the polls; but at the end of the day he is a moderate and most concerning to me is his recent donation to the Clinton Foundation.  Why would you donate to an opponent's money engine?
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The answer is obvious. Corporations generally give to both parties. Call it hedging a bet, or call it paying tribute to whatever party happens to win the reins of power. However you wish to characterize it.

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I'm sorry, but what kind of "greater benefits" would someone as wealthy as Trump wish to wring out of government service?

Egg. Zat. Lee.
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