Trump: Rick Perry 'should be forced to take an IQ test' before debate

[aligncare]

It shouldn't take a superior intelligence to just look into his past.

How bout looking at what motivates Trump to get up every morning?

He built a $10 billion real estate empire, plus dabbles in other ventures. I think that qualifies him for managing complex networks. And to build towers he has to navigate and negotiate with local governments. No one negotiates better deals.

When Trump says he's going to construct the next fabulous building in some world capitol, on time – it gets finished on time.

He strikes me as an American success story and a patriot, who thinks the country has suffered under Obama, in fact thinks the president has done a terrible job for America.

[EdinVA]

I am sure that it was one of Trumps kids (campaign people) that tweeted that out.....
Still, uncalled for and unprofessional.

[truth_seeker]

"Conservatism" needs a whole lot more, than a threat of withholding votes, unless they get their way.

Conservatism must resell ideas, which is very sadly not taking place. Of the people on the stage, Walker seems to be one of the few taking a shot at that approach. Based on his wins in Wisconsin, he seems to be effective, too.

Trump is not a salesman for conservatism. He is not onboard with conservative principles and concepts. He is a crony capitalist, first and foremost. That is how he got rich. I'm positive his subcontractors use illegals for labor. That makes him a liar and a hypocrite.

As some say, he drags the entire party down, by opening up the plausibility of an argument of hostility to immigrants, to minorities, etc.

Finally he polls the worst against Hillary, of any GOP candidate. And I believe in polls.

[DCPatriot]

A vote for Trump as a third party is a vote for Hillary and selling the country even further down the river.

...and over the falls. 

[DCPatriot]

You absolutely did.  Clearly.  Correctly.  Repeatedly.

 

....maybe not "clearly".   

[MACVSOG68]

You obviously weren't here back in 2008. 

I told everyone what Barry was gonna do.  It went for naught.   

I have to say you did.  I can't say I agreed with all your predictions about Obama, but we did agree he was a Marxist and would move the Country far to the left.

[DCPatriot]

I have to say you did.  I can't say I agreed with all your predictions about Obama, but we did agree he was a Marxist and would move the Country far to the left.

Yeah....perhaps I was a little over-the-top regarding the rounding up of political enemies and putting them in FEMA camps and into plastic mold coffins, etc..



.....but hey, it's still "early".   

[musiclady]

...and over the falls.

That too.


Into the abyss.........

[DCPatriot]

I have to say you did.  I can't say I agreed with all your predictions about Obama, but we did agree he was a Marxist and would move the Country far to the left.

And let me thank you again, MAC  (& Lando & Sinkspur)...for talking me off that ledge.   

[MACVSOG68]

How bout looking at what motivates Trump to get up every morning?

He built a $10 billion real estate empire, plus dabbles in other ventures. I think that qualifies him for managing complex networks. And to build towers he has to navigate and negotiate with local governments. No one negotiates better deals.

When Trump says he's going to construct the next fabulous building in some world capitol, on time – it gets finished on time.

He strikes me as an American success story and a patriot, who thinks the country has suffered under Obama, in fact thinks the president has done a terrible job for America.

I'm withholding judgment on most of the candidates for a while.  But I do see Trumps character and leadership style, and it concerns me.  Yes he's made a fortune in real estate, but he's had some significant failures too.  I would hope he wouldn't look at winners and losers in the same way as president.

[MACVSOG68]

And let me thank you again, MAC  (& Lando & Sinkspur)...for talking me off that ledge.   

You know my friend, we had some good debates back then, and I still appreciate all of you!   

[Bigun]

I saw him on Fox being interviewed a while back, and found him less than impressive.

He continues to step on it at every opportunity. NEVER learns! 

He's officially off my list now.

[MACVSOG68]

"Conservatism" needs a whole lot more, than a threat of withholding votes, unless they get their way.

Conservatism must resell ideas, which is very sadly not taking place. Of the people on the stage, Walker seems to be one of the few taking a shot at that approach. Based on his wins in Wisconsin, he seems to be effective, too.

Trump is not a salesman for conservatism. He is not onboard with conservative principles and concepts. He is a crony capitalist, first and foremost. That is how he got rich. I'm positive his subcontractors use illegals for labor. That makes him a liar and a hypocrite.

As some say, he drags the entire party down, by opening up the plausibility of an argument of hostility to immigrants, to minorities, etc.

Finally he polls the worst against Hillary, of any GOP candidate. And I believe in polls.

I don't disagree with much of what you say, but I will disagree vehemently that conservatism would embrace throwing away an election for a 3d party candidate simply because he's the loudest in the pack.  Conservatives would reject such nonsense.

And for others here who would vote 3d party before voting for a so-called RINO, think about what a Republican In Name Only implies.   

[aligncare]

All I know is that since Trump entered the race I see loads of threads with the name Trump in the title, not Santorum, Kasich, Christie or even Bush ....

[MBB1984]

You call Jeb's being pro-life and Hillary's being viciously pro-abortion "inconsequential??"

Really????

(Disclaimer - Jeb's not my guy, but honesty in discussion is important to me).

The entire nomenclature of "pro life" and "pro abortion" is primarily a façade or masquerade by liberal GOP candidates to fool gullible Conservatives.  The real and perhaps only determination is who they will nominate or confirm to the Supreme Court.  Linda Graham of South Carolina claims he is "pro life" yet he voted to confirm two of the most leftist Supreme Court justices ever.  Tell me how does his "pro life" stance translate?  Bush I nominated the traitor Souter.  Bush II tired to nominate Harriet Miers.   I feel confident that a Bush III would nominate a pro abortion nominee regardless of his rhetoric.

[MBB1984]

...and over the falls.

The country is going over the falls regardless of who is elected.  Cruz or Walker might be able to slow it down significantly. 

[MBB1984]

All I know is that since Trump entered the race I see loads of threads with the name Trump in the title, not Santorum, Kasich, Christie or even Bush ....

Trump is setting the agenda and showing leadership qualities the others haven't even approached.  Trump may well be a fraud or indulging his ego, but he is leading from a position of strength and confidence, with fire in his belly and disregard for the liberal media.  It is a sight to behold!  The GOP hasn't seen a Presidential candidate like that in years.

[aligncare]

Trump is setting the agenda and showing leadership qualities the others haven't even approached.  Trump may well be a fraud or indulging his ego, but he is leading from a position of strength and confidence, with fire in his belly and disregard for the liberal media.  It is a sight to behold!  The GOP hasn't seen a Presidential candidate like that in years.

There are a few very influential people in talk radio who love Trump, know him personally and think he would be a good president.

I'm reserving judgment, of course. It's too early for this cowboy to hitch his wagon to a particular horse – or horses ass, depending upon who were talking about.

[libertybele]

Yeah....perhaps I was a little over-the-top regarding the rounding up of political enemies and putting them in FEMA camps and into plastic mold coffins, etc..



.....but hey, it's still "early".   

Well, I for one believe that UN troops have already been set in place in this country and have been "housed" in the military facilities that were supposedly shut down years ago for non-use.  The UN troops are here to facilitate the collapse of this country and to round up political enemies and put them into FEMA camps. I somehow missed the plastic mold coffins....silly me!

Still early?  Exactly. We still have another 552 days to survive Barry's reign of terror.

[MACVSOG68]

Well, I for one believe that UN troops have already been set in place in this country and have been "housed" in the military facilities that were supposedly shut down years ago for non-use.  The UN troops are here to facilitate the collapse of this country and to round up political enemies and put them into FEMA camps. I somehow missed the plastic mold coffins....silly me!

Still early?  Exactly. We still have another 552 days to survive Barry's reign of terror.

Any evidence of that?

[musiclady]

Trump is setting the agenda and showing leadership qualities the others haven't even approached.  Trump may well be a fraud or indulging his ego, but he is leading from a position of strength and confidence, with fire in his belly and disregard for the liberal media.  It is a sight to behold!  The GOP hasn't seen a Presidential candidate like that in years.

What?  An egotistical fraud??

(This is a good thing???)

I respectfully differ that making a lot of noise is 'leadership.'

[aligncare]

Frauds usually aren't successful building one skyscraper after another.

[aligncare]

If you mean is Trump playing the electorate to get elected? Sure, he is. Name a politician who doesn't?

[musiclady]

Frauds usually aren't successful building one skyscraper after another.

Just for the record, I was quoting the word 'fraud' from the poster to whom I was responding.

But in answer to your comment, I don't think Trump is an economic fraud.  I think he's a political fraud,

And I don't think the kind of noise he's making right now is helpful in drawing others to conservatism or the Republican party.

I do think it makes a lot of others laugh at us, however.

I just don't think that's a good thing......

[Fishrrman]

aligncare wrote above:
[[ If Trump gets the republican nomination, I would vote for him in a heartbeat. If he goes third-party, I cross him off my list. ]]

OK, here's a scenario for you. I just made it all up from nothing.

It's mid-October 2016. It's also the first 4-way presidential race in modern times.

Running on the democratic ticket is Hillary Clinton. Polls show her with support of 29% of likely voters. But her terrible performance in both campaign speeches and interviews is hurting her, as well as a near-breakdown in the second televised debate.

Nipping at Hillary's heels is Bernie Sanders, running for his newly-minted Social Independent party. He's pulling 22% of likely voters, but he is gaining vis-a-vis Hillary. Bernie is hitting hard with his populist/liberalist/socialist theme, to enthusiastic young audiences. This is clearly his last hurrah and he's upbeat and making hay out of it. Adding to Sanders' momentum is his VP candidate, Elizabeth Warren, who graciously accepted his offer for the spot.

Struggling with the Republican ticket is Jeb Bush. He's been saddled by weakness on immigration, and new revelations about how his wife got into the country years ago. He's currently pulling about 22% of the voters.

Finally, there is Donald Trump, running on the American Restoration Party ticket. Against all odds, Trump has built a strong conservative base with loose but frank talk that resonates with many Americans. Trump is running without a VP co-candidate, but he's stated that if elected, he will ask Wisconsin governor Scott Walker to hire on as Vice President and chief advisor. He's polling around 28% and is gaining. After his closing speech in the last debate, in which he proclaimed "No more Bushes! No more Clintons!", he seems not only to be pulling voters from Bush, but some from Hillary's side as well.

Who ya gonna vote for?

(Edited about an hour after original posting)