Really?
All that political acumen, all those years as an inner operative for those in-the-know politically and you can't locate a Presidential candidate's stance on issues?
Google?
Here:
http://www.ontheissues.org/Archive/Immigration_Wars_Immigration.htm
And here:
http://politic365.com/2015/07/09/jeb-bush-touts-support-for-border-security-and-path-to-legal-status-for-undocumented/
Try reading more than just the parts that cement in place your preconceived notions.
Speaking as one dick to another, I appreciate you saving me some time and posting those links. Whether Bigun or Oceander check them out I can't say, but the plan you, Jeb, and Perry have laid out sounds like a step in the right direction. It is something that could be passed and perhaps even get signed by Obama if the proper pressure or compromise could be worked out.
I don't want to get in the middle of the spat you guys are having because I think you, Oceander, and Bigun all have worthwhile things to say, but you sound frustrated my friend...and you should be because you are right.
I sometimes get frustrated arguing the same points over and over, but I actually enjoy sparing with Bigun because, at least with me, he usually comes up with solid arguments against me...and usually without personal vindictiveness.
It should be clear from the volume of posts that Bigun and I have shared, I have enormous respect for him. The people I have no respect for do not receive replies to their posts. I think Bigun keeps me sharper, and helps me flesh out my opinions.
I don't expect I can persuade him, but some times we find common ground. It almost sounded like you and Bigun did find common ground when Bigun pointed out that your proposal and Perry's were almost identical. I know Bigun respects Perry, and thinks he would make a fine President. When you pointed out it was Jeb's proposal I am sure Bigun was as dumbfounded as I was...because all I've read on Breitbart is how Jeb wants amnesty for latino drug dealers, rapists, and murders.
Anyways I'm drunk again. I have tomorrow off. Thinking I probably shouldn't post this. I should probably butt out. Gonna do it post it anyways.