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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/03/duggars-clarify-sexual-abuse-allegations-family-did-go-to-police/

by Alex Swoyer3 Jun 2015

On Wednesday, Fox News’s Megyn Kelly exclusively interviewed the Duggars—an Arkansas family that rose to national fame in 2004 with a television show on TLC, “19 Kids and Counting.” But the family has been in the news recently after a tabloid released a sealed police report, revealing sexual abuse allegations within the family.

The family founded themselves on family and conservative Christian principles, so it was a shock when In Touch Weekly reported May 19th the oldest of the Duggar kids, Josh Duggar, was the subject of a sexual abuse investigation involving his younger sisters.

According to Kelly, on May 21st, an illegally released police report was published saying Josh had inappropriately touched five young girls, some of which were his own sisters.

The parents first learned of the inappropriate touching in 2002; they tried to handle it “in house” but were unsuccessful.

“Our son Josh came to us on his own, and he was crying,” Jim Bob Duggar, the father of the family told Kelly. Josh had just turned 14 years old, and he said he improperly touched some of his sisters.

“We were shocked, we were just devastated,” said Michelle, the mother, adding that as parents they had felt like failures.

“He said he was just curious about girls,” said Jim Bob. None of the girls knew about the touching because they were sleeping, according to the parents. Josh had touched the girls’s breasts over the clothes while they slept, they said.

A couple incidents later occurred when he touched them under the clothes—for few seconds—but then Josh again came to his parents and confessed to what he had done.

After the third incident, they decided to get outside help, realizing the family couldn’t solve the issue alone, but they decided on a Christian training camp instead of sending him to a juvenile detention center.

“I talked to somebody that worked at one of those juvenile youth sex offender facilities… and the success rate is not very good, so we felt like going from a perspective of really reaching his heart first would be important,” said Jim Bob.

The parents decided instead to send Josh to outside training and professional counseling but eventually came to the decision that Josh must confess to the police, and he did. Josh confessed to the Arkansas State Police, but no arrest was made.

The officer Josh originally broke to was arrested years later on child pornography charges—the Duggars had no idea of the officer’s problem when Josh originally confessed to him.

Later in 2006, an anonymous tip was sent to the police about what the Duggars’s son had done as they rose to fame; however, by that time, the statute of limitations had run on the earlier report, so no charges were ever filed.

“We had nothing to hide,” Jim Bob said when asked why they decided to do a reality show after all of this, adding that they had taken care of everything five years previously.”

Jim Bob said they were told “under law there is no way this could come out” because it was a a sealed juvenile record. The Duggars are currently speaking with lawyers about the illegal release of Josh’s juvenile record.

“There’s people that are purposing to try to bring things out and twisting them to try to hurt and slander,” Michelle said, explaining why she thinks all of this came out now—twelve years later.

“Our family is just trying to regroup from this attack,” Jim Bob said.

The Duggars did not confirm whether TLC has mentioned whether or not their show will be canceled, but Josh stepped down from his position at the Family Research Council in Washington D.C. after the news about his past was released.
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Re: Duggars Clarify Sexual Abuse Allegations, Family Did Go to Police
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2015, 07:31:09 pm »
That harridan of a police chief should be fired IMMEDIATELY, prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, and, if convicted, denied a pension.
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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2015, 09:06:21 pm »
I agree PzLdr what has happened to that family because of this is criminal. This to me was nothing but an attack on anyone Christian. If a Christian isn't perfect they attack them as if somehow they should be perfect when everyone knows the only perfect person who lived was Jesus. We as Christians are far from perfect but what we try to do is is not sin again but we are human and we do everyone does but we do ask for forgiveness and God gives it to us if we are sincerely trying to live a good life. I like this family and I wish them all the best and am praying for them.

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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2015, 09:27:47 pm »
I agree that this should not have been released and the police chief should be investigated.

However, who watches a show about a family who's famous just because they've got 19 kids?  It seems to be akin to a circus freak show.  I've never seen the show and have managed to make it through life without it.

Jim Bob(just that name conjurs up a hick stereotype)  and his wife knew this was in their family's background and they went ahead with the show anyway. Why are they surprised that it managed to leak out?

There is more to this story than we know and I'm guessing The Duggars will never be on TLC again.
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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2015, 10:10:13 pm »
If only the boy had "come out." He'd be a media darling.
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« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2015, 10:26:58 pm »
They should sue that police chief into the poor house If you ask me.
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« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2015, 10:35:21 pm »
Well I watched the interview last night and I believe JimBob and Michelle...I do think they were naive to think that the publics reaction would be that all is forgiven with Josh...I think they learned their lesson.....as for their show..it will be back..the Duggar audience is huge and they will demand it...I have a feeling this will all backfire on the powers that be.....and btw...sue that bitch who violated the law and released all this...Josh was a juvenile at the time and she also violated the victims rights of anonymity.
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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2015, 12:16:06 am »
There is supposedly an article by Karl Rove, commenting on poll showing self-identification as social conservative, down sharply. Social moderate up. For the first time, moderate exceeds conservative.

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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2015, 12:57:33 am »
I, too, watched the interview and felt Megyn did a very credible job of it, even though I have seen any number of critical comments about her performance, especially on Facebook. From the tone of some of the criticisms it would appear some viewers wanted Megyn to attack the Duggars and scream invective at them instead of allowing them to tell their story, which she did.

There is something very questionable about this whole business. What prompted "In Touch" to file the FOI request in the first place? Then supposedly the Police Chief consulted the city attorney as to whether or not the records could be released. News reports state that official ruled they could be. But the thing is the chief was known to have hostility to the Duggars and the law stipulates juvenile records are sealed and not subject to FOI requests. Also why the chief? Such request are normally filed through the public information office. This needs to be thoroughly investigated and I have a question about that: who is responsible for such an investigation? State authorities? Who?

Here's a little bit of an amusing element: the city attorney is named Tim Snively. If that doesn't sound like the name of some villain in an Ayn Rand novel, I don't know what does.

Beyond that I wish the Duggars well. They appear to be decent people, so decent that Josh recognized he had done a wrong thing and confessed to his parents. He wasn't caught doing it, nor did his victims snitch him off. They, apparently, didn't even know it happened. He gave himself up.

I disagree, though, the show will be back. They have lost a host of advertisers and the mother of Honey Boo Boo is raising a stink about a possible double standard. So, imho, it's a no go.




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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2015, 09:54:58 am »
Until LEO types can be held PERSONALLY responsible for "alleged" actions like this, it won't matter.  John and Jane Q. will be paying for this misconduct, not the loose cannons committing it.
Point 2, I saw the girls come to their brother's defense in a clip on The Five.  The age difference between the perpetrator and victim was quite smaller than what all the finger-pointing would make it seem.  Again, not a defense of his actions but considering Leftists enjoy ripping infants from wombs ....
Point 3, Christian or not, the parents don't seem to be wrapped to tight either.  But in this "binary" world that so many people find comfort in, what do you expect.
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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2015, 12:59:09 pm »
Yeah, there's quite a gap between what Hastert and Duggar did and when it has come out to the public.  These things are going to come out in drips and drabs from now on until the election.  They've already got it all lined up. 

The debates are planned to keep all of the GOP candidates on the defensive about these kinds of shiny sparkly distractions and I hope they don't fall for it.  I hope they can focus and stay on the offensive.  That's the only way you can win.

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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2015, 01:08:00 pm »
Until LEO types can be held PERSONALLY responsible for "alleged" actions like this, it won't matter.  John and Jane Q. will be paying for this misconduct, not the loose cannons committing it.

That is quite true but if hit hard enough perhaps John and Jane Q will begin to pay attention!


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Point 2, I saw the girls come to their brother's defense in a clip on The Five.  The age difference between the perpetrator and victim was quite smaller than what all the finger-pointing would make it seem.  Again, not a defense of his actions but considering Leftists enjoy ripping infants from wombs ....
Point 3, Christian or not, the parents don't seem to be wrapped to tight either.  But in this "binary" world that so many people find comfort in, what do you expect.
4th and final point, you don't think this is coming up, along with Bruce Jenner's head noises as front and center issues for the 2016 GOP debates, you may want to hit the showers because you didn't see this big, fat fastball coming across the plate.

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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2015, 12:27:24 am »
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These things are going to come out in drips and drabs from now on until the election.

Just today it was revealed that Marco Rubio and his wife have 17 moving violations between them. He has 4, she has 13 over the last 18 years.

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I would say this disqualifies him from office but actually it may be a plus. If elected he and the Mrs would be chauffeured everywhere and thus no more tickets and the streets would be that much safer.

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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2015, 01:51:11 am »
The Duggars disgust me at this point.  I knew nothing about them until this molestation scandal hit, but come on social conservatives, dump them and let's move on to things that matter, such as getting the government out of our lives.

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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2015, 01:56:46 am »
sinkspur wrote above:
[[ I agree that this should not have been released and the police chief should be investigated.
However, who watches a show about a family who's famous just because they've got 19 kids?  It seems to be akin to a circus freak show.  I've never seen the show and have managed to make it through life without it. ]]


Gee, sink, the world is turning upside down, because I agree with you!

In some ways, the Duggars are almost as much of a social aberration as is Bruce Jenner (discussed in another thread I read just before I opened this one).

I never could understand the fascination with them just because they had so many kids.

I also don't see where the left gets off makin' hay over this.
After all, they are close to winning on the gay marriage issue. Next it will be polygamy, then .... perhaps even incestuous relationships.

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« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2015, 09:25:18 pm »
Earlier (above) I stated:
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There is something very questionable about this whole business. What prompted "In Touch" to file the FOI request in the first place?
Subsequent revelations make this curiouser and curiouser.

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19 Questions With the Gay Journalist Who Brought Down the Duggars

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The Duggar family, which constitutes Michelle, Jim Bob, and their 19 children, epitomize the self-proclaimed Christian values of the Bible Belt on their series TLC series 19 Kids and Counting. But now, it's more like epitomized.

The family is being rocked by a molestation scandal that was uncovered by In Touch Weekly, and its gay West Coast editor, Rick Egusquiza. With every day bringing new revelations about the Duggars, Egusquiza is busy speaking with media about the family and the future of the show. The journalist — who made a name for himself in 2007 when he broke the story of John Edwards' affair with Rielle Hunter, which helped sink the former senator's presidential ambitions — found a few minutes to answer 19 of our queries.

The Advocate: Hi Rick. Congrats on the piece. How did you come to break this story?

Rick Egusquiza: Thank you. The rumors of Joshua Duggar being sexually inappropriate as a teenager were circulating for years, but no one could prove it until In Touch Weekly really started digging into it. My bosses received a tip and then sent me and a team to Springdale, Ark., to start digging around. One tipster led me to another, and then another. I have to say it was good old-fashioned reporting on the ground and a lot of door-knocking. Also a lot of leg work from our team of excellent reporters and editors. I'd love to take full credit, but it wasn't


Emphasis added. Tip from whom?

Rest of the piece: http://www.advocate.com/arts-entertainment/television/2015/06/04/19-questions-gay-journalist-who-brought-down-duggars
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« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2015, 10:08:17 pm »
Earlier (above) I stated:  Subsequent revelations make this curiouser and curiouser.
 

Emphasis added. Tip from whom?

Rest of the piece: http://www.advocate.com/arts-entertainment/television/2015/06/04/19-questions-gay-journalist-who-brought-down-duggars
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And What about Roman Polanski ?

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