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State Dep’t: We Never Called ISIS ‘Ragtag’
« on: May 22, 2015, 05:02:51 pm »
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(CNSNews.com) – The Obama administration has never described the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS/ISIL) as a “ragtag” group, State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf said on Thursday, after describing the fall of Ramadi to the jihadist group as a “serious setback” but also saying that any conflict will have “ebbs and flows.”

During a press briefing days after ISIS seized Ramadi in Iraq and Palmyra in Syria, Harf sparred with an Arab reporter over ISIS’ advances, differing with him over how much territory it now controls, how the administration views the group, and the relative strategies of ISIS and the U.S.

Said Arikat of the Palestinian daily Al-Quds, claimed that ISIS today controls an area “probably larger than any other Arab country in Asia, except for Saudi Arabia.”

“I’m not sure your square footage is right there, Said,” Harf interjected.

“Well, I mean, look, control whatever, half of Syria. They control large portions of Iraq.”

“We don’t think they control half of Syria,” Harf put in.

(Earlier in the briefing she said the administration disagreed with an assessment [1] by the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights that ISIS now controls some 50 percent of Syrian territory, more than 95,000 square kilometers of a total 185,000.)

“Fine,” Said continued. “I mean, they control large areas, bigger than many of the countries in the Arab world. They seem to have a solid strategy. That’s not a ragtag kind of hit-and-run operation. So why not –”

“We have never said they were ragtag,” Harf said. “We have never said that.”

Said said ISIS clearly had a strategy, and asked why the U.S. did not have an equally “robust” one to counter it.

Harf responded that the U.S. strategy was “more robust” than the terrorist group’s.

“It’s taken out parts of their command and control. It’s taken out their communications. It’s taking out their majority funding source when it comes to taking out the oil, including in Syria. So we have a strategy that is choking off their funding, that is taking off their fighters, that is taking – cutting off ways for them to get more foreign fighters, that’s taking them off the battlefield every single day.”

The administration may not have called ISIS “ragtag,” but during an interview with The New Yorker in January 2014, Obama compared the group – which had captured Fallujah days before – to “a jayvee team,” drawing a distinction between al-Qaeda on one hand and what he called “jihadists who are engaged in various local power struggles and disputes, often sectarian” on the other.

(Eight months later Obama said he wasn’t referring specifically to ISIS when he used the sports analogy, although fact-checkers [2] judged that denial to be false [3].)

‘There will be days’

Elsewhere in Thursday’s briefing Harf conceded that the fall of Ramadi was a major setback, but said there would be “ebbs and flows” in the fight against ISIS.

“We always have been clear – very clear – that there will be ebbs and flows here,” she said

“There will be days – again, like we saw in Ramadi; there will be more of them. But overall, if you look at the general trajectory, we have helped the Iraqis push them back out of territory in Iraq.”

“How many more of these bad days are you guys prepared to accept?” asked Associated Press reporter Matt Lee, wondering whether the administration could foresee a time when Baghdad or Damascus were threatened.

Harf declined to speculate on that, but also rejected the suggestion that the administration was accepting of the setbacks. It did not accept them, she said, but rather understood that “they will happen.”


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Re: State Dep’t: We Never Called ISIS ‘Ragtag’
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2015, 08:52:21 pm »
A certain jackass named Barack Hussein Obama called them the JV, though. Ragtag, junior varsity ... whatever it takes.

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Why Obama has come to regret underestimating the Islamic State - The terrorists that the White House once dismissed as amateurs are closer than ever to creating a viable nation state


By  Richard Spencer, Middle East Editor
8:09PM BST 23 May 2015
Telegraph (UK)

Have any words come back to haunt President Obama so much as his description of Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant last team as a “JV” - junior varsity - team of terrorists?

This wasn’t al-Qaeda in its 9/11 pomp, he said; just because a university second team wore Manchester United jerseys didn’t make them David Beckham.

How times change. As of this weekend, the JV team is doing a lot better than Manchester United. With its capture of Palmyra, it controls half of Syria.

Its defeat in Kobane - a town of which few non-Kurds had heard - was cheered by the world; its victory in Ramadi last Sunday gives it control of virtually all of Iraq’s largest province, one which reaches to the edge of Baghdad.

Calling itself a state, one analyst wrote, no longer looks like an exaggeration.

Senior US officials seem to agree. “Isil as an organization is better in every respect than its predecessor of Al-Qaeda in Iraq. It’s better manned, it’s better resourced, they have better fighters, they’re more experienced,” one said at a briefing to explain the loss of Ramadi. “We’ve never seen something like this.”

How did Isil manage to inflict such a humiliation on the world’s most powerful country? As with many great shock-and-awe military advances over the years, it is easier to explain in hindsight than it apparently was to prevent.

Ever since Isil emerged in its current form in 2013, military and and political analysts have been saying that its success is due to its grasp of both tactics and strategy.

Its strategy is essentially Maoist - the comparison has not been enough made, but now that Isil has declared itself an agent of Cultural Revolution, with its destruction of history, perhaps it will be more. Like Mao’s revolutionaries, it conquers the countryside before storming the towns.

Even now, the fact that much of its territory is rural or even desert is seen as a weakness. But it is beginning to “pick off” major towns and cities with impunity. In fact, where society is fractured, like Syria and Iraq, the “sea of revolution” panics the citizenry, making it feel “surrounded” by unseen and incomprehensible agents of doom.

Like Mao, Isil uses propaganda - its famed dominance of social media - to terrorise its targets mentally. Senior Iraqi policemen have recounted being sent images via their mobile phones of their decapitated fellow officers. This has a chastening effect on the fight-or-flight reflex.

It then uses actual terror to further instil chaos. Isil’s main targets have been ground down by years of car bombs and “random” attacks. It seems extraordinary, but one of the reasons given by Mosul residents for preferring Isil rule is that there are no longer so many terrorist attacks: not surprising, since the “terrorists” are in control.

Only once your enemy is weak, divided, and demoralised, do you strike.

You then do so with an awesome show of force - one which can mislead as to the actual numbers involved.

The final assault on central Ramadi, which had been fought over for almost 18 months, began with an estimated 30 car bombs. Ten were said to be individually of an equivalent size to the 1995 Oklahoma bombing, which killed 168 people.

There is nothing new in saying that both Syrian and Iraqi governments have contributed greatly to the rise of Isil by failing to offer the Sunni populations of their countries a reason to support them.

Some say that focusing on the failings and injustices of these regimes ignores the fact that militant Islamism, like Maoism, is a superficially attractive, even romantic idea to many, whether oppressed or not, and that its notions must be fought and defeated intellectually and emotionally.

That is true. But relying on Islamic extremism to burn itself out, or for its followers to be eventually persuaded of the errors of their ways, is no answer. Like financial markets, the world can stay irrational for longer than the rest of us can stay politically and militarily solvent.

Rather, the West and those it supports have to show they can exert force against force, and then create a better world, one which all Iraqis and Syrians, especially Sunnis, are prepared to fight for.

In March, an uneasy coalition of Shia militias, Iraqi soldiers, and US jets took back the town of Tikrit from Isil. It remains a wasteland, whose inhabitants have yet to return, ruled over by gunmen rather than by the rule of law.

That is not an attractive symbol, for Iraqi Sunnis, of what victory against Isil looks like. If the war against Isil is to be won, the first step is to make clear to Iraqis and Syrians alike what victory looks like, and why it will be better for them.
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