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O’Malley reacts to Tsarnaev verdict: ‘Death penalty is ineffective as a deterrent’

By Kellan Howell - The Washington Times - Saturday, May 16, 2015

Former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley said Friday that the death penalty sentence for Boston bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was "ineffective."

While the likely Democratic presidential candidate said that he "respects the verdict of the jury" and said his prayers go to the victims and their loved ones, he used the occasion to make another statement on his opposition to the death penalty.

"The death penalty is ineffective as a deterrent, and the appeals process is expensive and cruel to the surviving family members," Mr. O'Malley said, Mediaite reported Friday.

Mr. O'Malley added that "the vast majority of public executions" happen in the U.S., North Korea, Iran, Iraq, Yemen, and China, and said that was a list the U.S. should not be on, Mediaite reported.
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... but, it will be for Tsarnaev...
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In cases such as this, the death penalty is not intended to be a deterrent. It is intended to serve justice. 

That the appeals process has become lengthy and expensive is the work of trial lawyers and politicians, as exemplified by Mr. O'Malley.
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Death penalty is not a deterrent - it is a punishment that serves as closure to a heinous crime.  I don't think very many people are deterred when they are in the throes of getting ready to do something so horrible that they can get death for it.  When you're at that point - that doesn't mean a thing - the passion that stirs you to action supersedes all rational thought.

The death penalty means we can stop wasting any thoughts, time or resources on keeping this person alive and unable to hurt anyone else. 

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alice (and andy) wrote above:
[[ Death penalty is not a deterrent - it is a punishment that serves as closure to a heinous crime...]]

The entire concept of "deterrence" insofar as criminal sentencing is involved, was invented by leftists in an effort to change the dialogue on capital punishment.

The tactic is concurrent with the coining of the word "racist" by the communist left as a tool to use against the established order ("racist" and "racism" did not exist as words in the English dictionary until the twentieth century).

"Capital punishment" is not meant to deter anyone (except the individual being executed).
It is "punishment", no more and no less.

The "death penalty" is not meant to deter anyone -- it is a "penalty" upon the convicted criminal, intended to be exerted on him (or her) alone.
« Last Edit: May 17, 2015, 07:33:39 pm by Fishrrman »

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I don't see what the big deal is. This is mostly symbolic. Tsarnaev is no closer to being put to death than I am.

Being sentenced to death is one thing. Actually having it happen is a totally different issue. He will still be alive 10 years from now, and probably 20 years after that.

Appeal, after appeal, after appeal, and stay, after stay, after stay, with a probable reduction to life without parole.

I would be willing to bet this guy will outlive all of us.
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I don't see what the big deal is. This is mostly symbolic. Tsarnaev is no closer to being put to death than I am.

Being sentenced to death is one thing. Actually having it happen is a totally different issue. He will still be alive 10 years from now, and probably 20 years after that.

Appeal, after appeal, after appeal, and stay, after stay, after stay, with a probable reduction to life without parole.

I would be willing to bet this guy will outlive all of us.

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I would be willing to bet this guy will outlive all of us.
My exact thoughts. He will surely out live me.


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O'Malley needs to learn that deterrence isn't the only point of criminal justice.  I'm trying to remember all 4 of them from law school, but retribution, deterrence, rehabilitation and...incapacitation maybe? 

So death penalty is 2 for 4 even if not a deterrent. I'd rather see life at hard labor, but since that would be cruel and unusual... **nononono*

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Never understood why life with hard labor is considered cruel and unusual for prisoners but opportunity for us blue collar types.
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Never understood why life with hard labor is considered cruel and unusual for prisoners but opportunity for us blue collar types.

You got that right!

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If it were up to me, in a case like this where it's premeditated, and clear that he's guilty, I'd execute him quickly and put it on pay per view.
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I don't see what the big deal is. This is mostly symbolic. Tsarnaev is no closer to being put to death than I am.

Being sentenced to death is one thing. Actually having it happen is a totally different issue. He will still be alive 10 years from now, and probably 20 years after that.

Appeal, after appeal, after appeal, and stay, after stay, after stay, with a probable reduction to life without parole.

I would be willing to bet this guy will outlive all of us.
And yet Tim McVeigh didn't even last half a decade. The myth of the infinite appeal is just that—a myth.
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