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Offline Relic

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Re: The terrible, horrible, no good start for the Republicans
« Reply #125 on: March 04, 2015, 04:46:00 pm »
The undying loyalty to the Republican party is the flip side of all those people who worship Obama without regard to his performance in office.
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Re: The terrible, horrible, no good start for the Republicans
« Reply #126 on: March 04, 2015, 04:47:47 pm »
Quote from: Relic on March 04, 2015, 04:46:00 pm
The undying loyalty to the Republican party is the flip side of all those people who worship Obama without regard to his performance in office.

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Re: The terrible, horrible, no good start for the Republicans
« Reply #127 on: March 04, 2015, 05:13:15 pm »
It's not undying loyalty to anyone or anything.

It's pragmatism and my belief that the GOP is the best available option to me at this time.

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Re: The terrible, horrible, no good start for the Republicans
« Reply #128 on: March 04, 2015, 05:17:30 pm »
Quote from: Luis Gonzalez on March 04, 2015, 05:13:15 pm
It's pragmatism and my belief that the GOP is the best available option to me at this time.

Too bad you have no choice but to vote for the lesser of two bad options.
« Last Edit: March 04, 2015, 05:17:46 pm by Dex4974 »
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Re: The terrible, horrible, no good start for the Republicans
« Reply #129 on: March 04, 2015, 05:33:12 pm »
Quote from: Dex4974 on March 04, 2015, 05:17:30 pm
Too bad you have no choice but to vote for the lesser of two bad options.

That's your opinion.

Others see dropping out of the political system either by not voting, or by wasting their efforts with an empty, symbolic vote for some obscure minority Party or politician with zero chance of having any impact on anything as their best option.

Having no record of governance to judge their chosen Party/politicians, those people always get to take the high road since they can always claim that their party/guy would have been better.

Many here believe that Ted Cruz is the solution to all that is wrong, but his record is the same record of the GOP.

The difference between the two are speeches.
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Re: The terrible, horrible, no good start for the Republicans
« Reply #130 on: March 04, 2015, 05:34:34 pm »
Quote from: Dex4974 on March 04, 2015, 05:17:30 pm
Too bad you have no choice but to vote for the lesser of two bad options.

That's the problem.  Everyone seems to think that we don't have another option, but we do.  Third Party candidates.  Do some research on the various different third parties ... get involved ... support them ... vote!  If we could get all the disgruntled GOP/DEM/Independent voters to do so, I am confident we could seat a 3rd party in the oval office.

I particularly like and am a supporter of the Constitution Party.

http://www.constitutionparty.com/
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Re: The terrible, horrible, no good start for the Republicans
« Reply #131 on: March 04, 2015, 05:50:07 pm »
Quote from: Luis Gonzalez on March 04, 2015, 05:33:12 pm
That's your opinion.

Others see dropping out of the political system either by not voting, or by wasting their efforts with an empty, symbolic vote for some obscure minority Party or politician with zero chance of having any impact on anything as their best option.

Having no record of governance to judge their chosen Party/politicians, those people always get to take the high road since they can always claim that their party/guy would have been better.

Many here believe that Ted Cruz is the solution to all that is wrong, but his record is the same record of the GOP.

The difference between the two are speeches.

Under your criteria, the Republican Party would have been stillborn in 1856, and Lincoln wouldn't have been on the ballot in 1860.
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Re: The terrible, horrible, no good start for the Republicans
« Reply #132 on: March 04, 2015, 06:28:45 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on March 04, 2015, 05:34:34 pm
That's the problem.  Everyone seems to think that we don't have another option, but we do.  Third Party candidates.  Do some research on the various different third parties ... get involved ... support them ... vote!  If we could get all the disgruntled GOP/DEM/Independent voters to do so, I am confident we could seat a 3rd party in the oval office.

I particularly like and am a supporter of the Constitution Party.

http://www.constitutionparty.com/

Barack Obama won with nearly 70 million votes in 2012. That same year the Constitution  Party got less than 125,000 votes.

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Re: The terrible, horrible, no good start for the Republicans
« Reply #133 on: March 04, 2015, 06:29:20 pm »
Quote from: PzLdr on March 04, 2015, 05:50:07 pm
Under your criteria, the Republican Party would have been stillborn in 1856, and Lincoln wouldn't have been on the ballot in 1860.

Then again, this is not 1856, is it?
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Re: The terrible, horrible, no good start for the Republicans
« Reply #134 on: March 04, 2015, 07:09:40 pm »
Luis wrote above:
[[ Then again, this is not 1856, is it? ]]

No, but if things keep going the way they're going in this country, we could be getting closer to "1861"...
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Re: The terrible, horrible, no good start for the Republicans
« Reply #135 on: March 04, 2015, 09:18:54 pm »
Quote from: Luis Gonzalez on March 04, 2015, 06:28:45 pm
Barack Obama won with nearly 70 million votes in 2012. That same year the Constitution  Party got less than 125,000 votes.

You just aren't getting it.  Yes, everyone is well aware that in the past 3rd parties have lost because people have always voted for "party" rather than the best candidate.  IF people were to vote their conscious things might be a whole lot different.  It is time to tell both parties to pack sand; we do have alternatives. 
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Re: The terrible, horrible, no good start for the Republicans
« Reply #136 on: March 04, 2015, 09:22:28 pm »
Quote from: Fishrrman on March 04, 2015, 07:09:40 pm
Luis wrote above:
[[ Then again, this is not 1856, is it? ]]

No, but if things keep going the way they're going in this country, we could be getting closer to "1861"...

I was thinking more like we are getting closer to 1775.
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Re: The terrible, horrible, no good start for the Republicans
« Reply #137 on: March 04, 2015, 10:07:19 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on March 04, 2015, 09:18:54 pm
You just aren't getting it.  Yes, everyone is well aware that in the past 3rd parties have lost because people have always voted for "party" rather than the best candidate.  IF people were to vote their conscious things might be a whole lot different.  It is time to tell both parties to pack sand; we do have alternatives.

I always vote when I'm conscious.
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Re: The terrible, horrible, no good start for the Republicans
« Reply #138 on: March 04, 2015, 10:11:43 pm »
Quote from: Luis Gonzalez on March 04, 2015, 10:07:19 pm
I always vote when I'm conscious.
I haven't been conscious since 1775, or is it 1856, or 1861 ?
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Re: The terrible, horrible, no good start for the Republicans
« Reply #139 on: March 04, 2015, 10:43:27 pm »
Quote from: Luis Gonzalez on March 04, 2015, 10:07:19 pm
I always vote when I'm conscious.
:laugh:The people on this forum are...well...and incredible source of humor.
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Re: The terrible, horrible, no good start for the Republicans
« Reply #140 on: March 05, 2015, 12:22:24 pm »
Quote from: Luis Gonzalez on March 04, 2015, 10:07:19 pm
I always vote when I'm conscious.

At least one problem is those who aren't when they do.
« Last Edit: March 05, 2015, 12:43:25 pm by Lando Lincoln »
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