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Obama to ban bullets by executive action, threatens top-selling AR-15 rifle
By Paul Bedard | February 26, 2015 | 11:41 am



It’s started.

As promised, President Obama is using executive actions to impose gun control on the nation, targeting the top-selling rifle in the country, the AR-15 style semi-automatic, with a ban on one of the most-used AR bullets by sportsmen and target shooters.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives this month revealed that it is putting the ban on 5.56mm ammo on a fast track, immediately driving up the price of the bullets and prompting retailers, including the huge outdoors company Cabela’s, to urge sportsmen to urge Congress to stop the president.

Wednesday night, Rep. Bob Goodlatte, the Republican chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, stepped in with a critical letter to BATFE demanding it explain the surprise and abrupt bullet ban. The letter is shown below.

The National Rifle Association, which is working with Goodlatte to gather co-signers, told Secrets that 30 House members have already co-signed the letter and Goodlatte and the NRA are hoping to get a total of 100 fast.

"The Obama administration was unable to ban America's most popular sporting rifle through the legislative process, so now it's trying to ban commonly owned and used ammunition through regulation," said Chris W. Cox, executive director of the NRA-ILA, the group's policy and lobby shop. "The NRA and our tens of millions of supporters across the country will fight to stop President Obama's latest attack on our Second Amendment freedoms."

At issue is so-called “armor-piercing” ammunition, an exemption for those bullets mostly used for sport by AR-15 owners, and the recent popularity of pistol-style ARs that use the ammo.

The inexpensive 5.56 M885 ammo, commonly called green tips, have been exempt for years, as have higher caliber ammunition that also easily pierces the type of soft armor worn by police, because it’s mostly used by target shooters not criminals.

But now BATFE says that since the bullets can be used in semi-automatic handguns they pose a threat to police and must be banned from production, sale and use. But, as Goodlatte noted, offered no proof. Federal agencies will still be allowed to buy the ammo.

“This round is amongst the most commonly used in the most popular rifle design in America, the AR-15. Millions upon millions of M855 rounds have been sold and used in the U.S., yet ATF has not even alleged – much less offered evidence – that even one such round has ever been fired from a handgun at a police officer,” said Goodlatte’s letter.

Even some police don’t buy the administration’s claim. “Criminals aren't going to go out and buy a $1,000 AR pistol,” Brent Ball, owner of 417 Guns in Springfield, Mo. and a 17-year veteran police told the Springfield News-Leader. “As a police officer I'm not worried about AR pistols because you can see them. It's the small gun in a guy's hand you can't see that kills you.”

Many see the bullet ban as an assault on the AR-15 and Obama’s backdoor bid to end production and sale.

“We are concerned,” said Justin Anderson with Hyatt Gun Shop in Charlotte, N.C., one of the nation’s top sellers of AR-15 style rifles. “Frankly, we're always concerned when the government uses back door methods to impose quasi gun control.”

Groups like the National Shooting Sports Foundation suggest that under BATFE’s new rule, other calibers like popular deer hunting .308 bullets could be banned because they also are used in AR-15s, some of which can be turned into pistol-style guns. “This will have a detrimental effect on hunting nationwide,” said the group.
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Nobody can stop him. Obama is about to spend two years doing whatever the hell he wants and daring Congress or the courts to stop him.

From banning ammunition, to taking control of the internet, to legalizing 5 million (soon to be 11 million), to forcing Churches to pay for morally objectionable activities.

Strap on your seat belts.
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Nobody can stop him. Obama is about to spend two years doing whatever the hell he wants and daring Congress or the courts to stop him.

From banning ammunition, to taking control of the internet, to legalizing 5 million (soon to be 11 million), to forcing Churches to pay for morally objectionable activities.

Strap on your seat belts.
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Nobody can stop him. Obama is about to spend two years doing whatever the hell he wants and daring Congress or the courts to stop him.

From banning ammunition, to taking control of the internet, to legalizing 5 million (soon to be 11 million), to forcing Churches to pay for morally objectionable activities.

Strap on your seat belts.

He can be stopped! If only we had represenatives with the  GUTS to do it!
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He can be stopped! But it will take people with the  GUTS to do it!

Well there are only one or two that would even try....the rest are eunuchs
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Well there are only one or two that would even try....the rest are eunuchs

Sadly true!
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Well there are only one or two that would even try....the rest are eunuchs

But, whatever you do, keep voting R.

I'm told it's important, but I can't for the life of me figure out why.

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But, whatever you do, keep voting R.

I'm told it's important, but I can't for the life of me figure out why.
It is a mute point now isn't it? Nobody in power wants to stop him. He will get his 11+mil new permanent voter base by 2016.


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Expect a run on 5.56 soon. We still have not recovered from the 22LR dissapearence from the store shelves.

I have six 30-round Magpul Magazines. I better make sure they are all full, because it could be a while before we see them again.
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He can be stopped! If only we had represenatives with the  GUTS to do it!

What could representatives with guts do to stop him?
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Re: Obama to ban bullets by executive action, threatens top-selling AR-15 rifle
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2015, 07:21:01 pm »
What could representatives with guts do to stop him?
Nothing


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Re: Obama to ban bullets by executive action, threatens top-selling AR-15 rifle
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2015, 07:24:59 pm »
Well there are only one or two that would even try....the rest are eunuchs

"Trying" isn't stopping.

It's theater.

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Re: Obama to ban bullets by executive action, threatens top-selling AR-15 rifle
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2015, 07:26:08 pm »
But, whatever you do, keep voting R.

I'm told it's important, but I can't for the life of me figure out why.

When was the last time that you saw anyone with an "R" behaving the way this a$$hole's behaving?
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Re: Obama to ban bullets by executive action, threatens top-selling AR-15 rifle
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2015, 07:32:44 pm »
When was the last time that you saw anyone with an "R" behaving the way this a$$hole's behaving?

When was the last time you saw an R do something useful?

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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2015, 07:44:46 pm »
When was the last time you saw an R do something useful?

Many times.

They've stopped any new funding for Obamacare.

They've prohibited the transfer or release of detainees held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba into the United States, meaning no civilian trials.

They've blocked funding of the risk corridors that, under the Affordable Care Act, could lead to a government bailout of the insurance companies.

They maintained all the existing pro-life policy and funding provisions and added three more while cutting the funds for the Independent Payment Advisory Board (which is the body that would be recommending any rationing of health care) by $10 million.

They've cut funding for the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency by $60 million, making this the fifth consecutive year the agency’s budget has been cut.

They cut Federal allocations to the IRS by $345.6 million, prohibiting it from targeting organizations because of the way they chose to exercise their First Amendment rights or on an ideological basis.

That's part of what they've done just since taking office this year.

I answered your question, now answer mine.
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« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2015, 07:44:55 pm »
When was the last time you saw an R do something useful?

 :thumbsup:

When is the last time Republicans reduced spending or the size of our government?
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« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2015, 07:47:52 pm »
When was the last time you saw an R do something useful?

The liberals are fighting to win, the rest of are just watching.

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« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2015, 07:50:26 pm »
No pun intended. I am in shell shock today.

And I just can't take it anymore.

Every day I come in here and the news is always the same: depressing.

Executive amnesty; more regulations from the FCC; threats to second amendment; ISIS brutality; school lunch horror stories; abortion; home-grown terrorists; weakling Republican Congress. I could go on.

If we don't get some positive stories in here soon, I am this close to dropping out from news.

I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!

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« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2015, 07:52:01 pm »
Expect a run on 5.56 soon. We still have not recovered from the 22LR dissapearence from the store shelves.

I have six 30-round Magpul Magazines. I better make sure they are all full, because it could be a while before we see them again.

We still have lots of 5.56 and .223 on the shelves here. Magpuls are also everywhere - more expensive than other 30 rd. mags but my favorite. I'm planning on stocking up this weekend.
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Re: Obama to ban bullets by executive action, threatens top-selling AR-15 rifle
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2015, 08:00:46 pm »
No pun intended. I am in shell shock today.

And I just can't take it anymore.

Every day I come in here and the news is always the same: depressing.

Executive amnesty; more regulations from the FCC; threats to second amendment; ISIS brutality; school lunch horror stories; abortion; home-grown terrorists; weakling Republican Congress. I could go on.

If we don't get some positive stories in here soon, I am this close to dropping out from news.

I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!

Was that you who just called Rush..he just said the same thing...*I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!*
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« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2015, 08:06:05 pm »
Wasn't me, myst. But, no doubt there are millions of us with knots in our stomachs today.

The news is simply awful today. I mean, Loretta Lynch, AG? Really?
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« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2015, 08:10:38 pm »
Wasn't me, myst. But, no doubt there are millions of us with knots in our stomachs today.

The news is simply awful today. I mean, Loretta Lynch, AG? Really?

It has been a bad day...I am sooooo depressed...I just don't see any purpose of winning both Houses.. 8888crybaby
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It has been a bad day...I am sooooo depressed...I just don't see any purpose of winning both Houses.. 8888crybaby

We have a rogue President in the House.

"There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty." John Adams

The man Adams feared is in the White House.

A petty, vengeful, narcissistic, America-hating, amoral ideologue.

Our government was not constructed or structured for the likes of Barack Obama. 

The only thing that can be done is to remove him.

Being the Muslim that he is, he would welcome the same fate suicide bombers embrace, and for the same reasons.
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« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2015, 08:20:17 pm »
Expect a run on 5.56 soon. We still have not recovered from the 22LR dissapearence from the store shelves.

I have six 30-round Magpul Magazines. I better make sure they are all full, because it could be a while before we see them again.
I think I have enough .22LR, but who knows?  **nononono*
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It has been a bad day...I am sooooo depressed...I just don't see any purpose of winning both Houses.. 8888crybaby
You are not alone.  8888crybaby Every week will be worse and worse. You know they have a huge list of things to take away in valjars office. It always has creeped  me out that any photo of him in the oval his desk is always empty.

They have a list and cross out each thing daily. I fear the next months. It is way beyond time for tar and feathers. Yet I also fear this country will go out with a whimper.