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Senate Republicans Put Up Listless Fight Against Obama Amnesty
Posted By Neil Munro On 10:38 AM 01/16/2015

Republican Senate leaders say they will try feebly to pass the House’s must-pass budget bill, complete with its popular anti-amnesty curbs.

But they’re also signaling to the Democratic establishment and the media that their part of the joint effort to pass the funding bill for the Department of Homeland Security will be insincere and half-hearted.

And also tepid. Perfunctory and listless, lackluster, apathetic and unenthusiastic.

“We’re going try to pass it,” the GOP’s new majority leader, Sen. Mitch McConnell, told reporters Thursday. “If we’re unable to do that, we’ll see what happens.”

One of his deputies surrendered any leverage by promising to fund the agency once the Democrats block the popular anti-amnesty spending rules. “Under no circumstances will we see any shutdowns,” said John Cornyn, the GOP’s Senate whip, told the reporters. “No more drama. … That’s off the table.”

The split was revealed by President Barack Obama’s determination to boost immigration.

Congress failed to pass his immigration rewrite in 2013 and 2014. So he announced in November that he would grant work permits and other benefits to roughly five million illegals who have birthed children in the United States.

In December, House Speaker John Boehner pushed through a bill that funds the agency until late February.

In January, however, he bent under pressure from the GOP base, which strongly opposes the amnesty, and allowed GOP legislators to pass an February-to-October funding bill for the department but also bar it from implementing Obama’s various amnesty plans.

Obama has threatened to veto the House’s bill if the Senate sends it to his desk.

That veto would not shut down the agency, because law enforcement officers would keep working.

But the funding cut-off would allow Obama’s aides to create apparent border security problems and use their media allies to blame the GOP for those problems.

The new Republican majority of 54 senators doesn’t want to fight Obama on the amnesty issue.

The Senate’s actions are all for show, not to win, another GOP leader admitted.

“Obviously we want to give our members an opportunity to vote to express their opposition to the president’s action but we also realize at the end of the day in the Senate it’s going to take 60 votes,” Sen. John Thune told reporters at the joint House and Senate GOP retreat in Hershey, Pa.

“We want to be able to give our members in the Senate an opportunity to vote as the House members did. … There may be different ways and approaches to this issue that we can get the point across,” said Thune.

But the Senate leaders can’t pass a bill without agreement from House Republicans, who want to block the amnesty. If Senate Republicans doesn’t try to pass a bill that the House legislators support, it will create a fight between the House and Senate GOP caucuses.

Democrats are happy to see GOP leaders and legislators divide over Obama’s amnesty.

A Pew survey released Dec. 11 showed that 82 percent of Republicans oppose Obama’s plan, which was announced Nov. 20. Only 15 percent of Republicans approve of the plan. Strong opinions were even more lopsided, 71 percent very strongly against, seven percent very strongly for.

A Fox News survey released Dec. 11 said 90 percent of Republicans opposed Obama bypassing Congress to make [immigration enforcement] changes.” Only nine percent of Republicans endorsed the Obama bypass around the constitution.

There’s no evidence that top GOP leaders will use the media to blame Obama for the budget problem, or even to say that he puts a higher priority on amnestying illegal immigrants than protecting Americans from foreign threats or cheap migrant labor, a Hill staffer said.

The leaders’ underlying goal, the staffer said, is to get the immigration issue out of the news before it transforms he 2016 primaries into a populist battle between the GOP establishment and GOP voters.

“The goal is to find a path to victory [in 2016] without the base, and the best way to do that is to make the [campaign] issue about anything other than immigration,” the staffer said.

That diversion won’t be easy, he said, because the public opposes the amnesty, which is planned to begin in February.

However, a lawsuit in Texas by officials from 25 states might deep-six Obama’s unilateral amnesty for months or permanently. The judge held a hearing on Jan. 15, and will likely announce in February whether to block the amnesty.
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Ok.  If I am understanding how things are working out so far; the GOP is failing to repeal Obamacare and illegal immigration.  WHY?  The voters of the mid term elections spoke very clearly.  IF the GOPe FAILS to derail the Obama agenda; which is what it is looking like, then they are toast and so are the Dems.  Hello TEA in 2016!
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The sole purpose of the Republican Party is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.


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The sole purpose of the Republican Party is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.

Certainly NOT the Republican Party that I rallied for and supported; nor will I in the future.
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Certainly NOT the Republican Party that I rallied for and supported; nor will I in the future.

Unfortunately, the Republican Party that you support will not be allowed to generate any meaningful change in the direction of this country...


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Unfortunately, the Republican Party that you support will not be allowed to generate any meaningful change in the direction of this country...

Fortunately, they already have.   Only difference now is people will have no other "party" to turn other than a 3rd party. Either people will turn to another party or we will witness the collapse.  That is why there is now going to be a push to regulate the internet as the internet is a way for people to connect on a wide scale.  Just my humble opinion of course.
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Either people will turn to another party or we will witness the collapse.

Of course, both could happen at the same time.

But that gets back to the 'no meaningful change' thing...


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Ok.  If I am understanding how things are working out so far; the GOP is failing to repeal Obamacare and illegal immigration.  WHY?  The voters of the mid term elections spoke very clearly.  IF the GOPe FAILS to derail the Obama agenda; which is what it is looking like, then they are toast and so are the Dems.  Hello TEA in 2016!

Yes!  This is, once again, their very last chance.  If the GOP leadership does not start acting like the real conservatives who failed to unseat the leadership during the last primaries, then the GOP will face even more primary challenges from the Tea Party.  The voters spoke very clearly.

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Ok.  If I am understanding how things are working out so far; the GOP is failing to repeal Obamacare and illegal immigration.  WHY?  The voters of the mid term elections spoke very clearly.  IF the GOPe FAILS to derail the Obama agenda; which is what it is looking like, then they are toast and so are the Dems.  Hello TEA in 2016!

The GOP cannot repeal Obamacare until, and unless, there is a GOP president in the White House.  The GOP should be developing a rational alternative to Obamacare - something that marshals market forces to do what they do best:  make things more efficient and less expensive - and not trying to do something that will never be enacted for at least the next two years.

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The GOP cannot repeal Obamacare until, and unless, there is a GOP president in the White House.  The GOP should be developing a rational alternative to Obamacare - something that marshals market forces to do what they do best:  make things more efficient and less expensive - and not trying to do something that will never be enacted for at least the next two years.

Well it is for certain that you will not do what you do not attempt!  They will not attempt a full repeal because they are deathly afraid that it might, in the end, be successful and cost them the issue going into the next election!
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Well it is for certain that you will not do what you do not attempt!  They will not attempt a full repeal because they are deathly afraid that it might, in the end, be successful and cost them the issue going into the next election!

You do realize that Obama would veto a full repeal, right?  Do you know how the legislative process works, and how a bill becomes a law?
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You do realize that Obama would veto a full repeal, right?  Do you know how the legislative process works, and how a bill becomes a law?

Indeed I do! And if a full repeal of Obamacare reaches his desk can you imagine the pressure there would be for him to sign it?  He probably wouldn't care about that being who he is and the fact that he doesn't ever get to run again so he likely would veto it but then the pressure would become even greater on congress to override the veto when he did! Even if they failed to override the veto the republican's standing with the voters would go through the roof IMHO!


That is EXACTLY why they won't do it!  They don't want to loose the issue for 2016 and beyond! Rather than actually trying to get rid of it they are playing politics with it!

 
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