Mitch McConnell: My Senate Will Be Bipartisan and Effective

[sinkspur]

My comments were from the heart, I have a 30 year history of being lied to by Mitch and I meant every word I said.  I stand by my comments - loud and proud!  Before it's all over, others here will too!

I'm sorry, but McConnell's been minority leader for 8 years. And in that time, he's been the straightest shooter I've seen.He opposes Dems but works with them where necessary.  THAT is why he leads the Republicans in the Senate.  His cohorts like him and trust him and voted for him for Majority Leader.

What specific lies has he told you? I'd be interested in knowing that.

[sinkspur]

This last election was not about being bipartisan it was about following the constitution and standing up to Obama and his criminal cohort's. The stupid republican rhino's didn't get the message at all and the republican party will lose even more voters this next election like me who is just giving up and letting the trash take over this country. If he gives in to the democrats me and a lot of other voters will lay low and live our lives under the radar not caring what happens to this country or the damn socialists and the damn republican party unless by chance another party comes onto the scene. I guess my kids and grandkids will  have to fend for themselves with no help from me. I feel for them having to live with such corrupt leaders under a hammer and sickle I tried and so did lots of other voters this time but crap people are still in charge of this country.

Uh, the Republicans didn't lose many voters this time. In fact, Republicans voted en masse and were joined by Independents. Why do you act as if the world is coming to an end if the Republicans don't act like the Democrats acted for the last two years?

How'd that work out for THEM?

[katzenjammer]

My comments were from the heart, I have a 30 year history of being lied to by Mitch and I meant every word I said.  I stand by my comments - loud and proud!  Before it's all over, others here will too!

 

(More importantly, millions are already with you, alice!!)

[sinkspur]

My comments were from the heart, I have a 30 year history of being lied to by Mitch and I meant every word I said.  I stand by my comments - loud and proud!  Before it's all over, others here will too!

However in the world did Mitch beat Lundergan Grimes like a cheap drum?  All these Kentucky Republicans are dupes?

Or (don't tell me) your fellow Kentuckians are all RINOs.  And you are enlightened. 

I'm still waiting for one or two of those lies that Mitch told you. And be specific.

[Oceander]

Let's not fool ourselves into playing Charlie Brown to the democrat party's Lucy.  They are not interested in bipartisanship; certainly their leadership, which most effectively controls the rank-and-file, is not interested in bipartisanship.

[speekinout]

I've been around these forums for a long time. I've actually been paying attention.

There's a propensity for people to assign ideals, beliefs and courses of action to politicians that the politicians themselves neither proposed, or could actually deliver even if they had. There's also a huge cult of personality and messiah factor in politics these days. We saw it in Obama, and (to a degree) in Sarah Palin and now Ted Cruz.

These are politicians. They are not messiahs or saviors or miracle workers.

They are not Reagan.

Hell... Reagan's not Reagan. We remember him like we remember those football games we played back in High School. We caught some touchdowns, but not as many, and the Friday night lights weren't as bright as we recalled them being.

Politicians  are elected to serve and govern, not to rule, but we (both sides of the political spectrum) have come to believe that when we elect a majority, we have elected rulers.

Politicians are supposed to go to DC and work to represent the views all citizens, and the only way that can be accomplished is via negotiations and bipartisanship. But the idea of bipartisan government has somehow come to be understood as a bad thing by the polity.

We spend way too much time trying to figure out how to rule one another by way of force of government, and as a result, all our liberties are slowly lost and our nation decays.   

Sad.

 

Thank you, Luis.

[alicewonders]

However in the world did Mitch beat Lundergan Grimes like a cheap drum?  All these Kentucky Republicans are dupes?

Or (don't tell me) your fellow Kentuckians are all RINOs.  And you are enlightened. 

I'm still waiting for one or two of those lies that Mitch told you. And be specific.

Not just Kentuckians, Sink, most voters in all states are woefully uninformed and it is so much easier to vote for the incumbent - and SO difficult for anyone trying to challenge them!  So, that is frustrating for me.  Aside from Mitch running a nasty campaign in this last election (sending "official looking" flyers to voters that appeared to come from the State Attorney General's office accusing Matt Bevin of fraud) - AND saying he was going to beat up (or some term like that, can't remember the exact words) the Tea Party and then having the gall to have his campaign call me begging for money!  Not so much lies - but disgusting behavior beneath a 30 year incumbent.

But it does point to the creep he really is. 

The biggest lie Mitch tells is when it comes to amnesty - or comprehensive immigration reform as it is called by those who favor it.  In 2006, when it slowly dawned on me that George W. Bush and the leaders in the GOP were pushing "amnesty", I wrote McConnell with my concerns and asked him to vote against it.  Apparently, a lot of Kentuckians did as well, he was besieged with his constituents demanding he vote against it.  This was when they could have actually done something about it.  He sent us all form letters saying that he HEARD us, and rest assured he would fight FOR us!  He didn't. 

Every election, he says he will fight for what conservatives want - and when he is re-elected, he goes back to his bipartisan crap where he joins Democrats in voting for bigger government, spending more money.  This is not what he runs on! 

Allison Lundergen Grimes lost because she was a stupid candidate and because Kentuckians hate Obama's guts because he is destroying the coal industry.  McConnell was supposed to stop that too.  No Democrat could have won with Obama hanging on their coat-tails.

McConnell lies to win elections - he has no intention of fighting big government - he is big government all the way.  I don't care what you say, Americans DON'T want Republicans to work WITH the Democrats!  The election showed that beyond a doubt, so why is Mitch pledging to work with them?   

[Fishrrman]

Luis wrote above:
[[ But the idea of bipartisan government has somehow come to be understood as a bad thing by the polity. ]]

"Bipartisanship" might actually mean something -- if BOTH sides actually believed in it.

But the left has no interest in such an approach. Their idea of "bipartisanship" is they take, we give.

It's not so far removed from the current state of muslims vs. The West.

The game can only be played when both sides agree to operate by a common set of rules, but of course that is no longer the case.

The problem with the Republicans in general, and Republican leadership in particular, is that these dummies still think "the old rules" still apply. They are, quite simply, fools.

The way to deal with the democrat/communists is to adapt THEIR rules of engagement.

These rules may not be pretty, polite, or magnanimous.
But they must be utilized if we hope to defeat the left and to eventually restore the equilibrium between "the people" and their government.

We can "play nice", or we can play to win.

The democrat/communists ALWAYS play to win.

When are we going to learn?

[sinkspur]

Not just Kentuckians, Sink, most voters in all states are woefully uninformed and it is so much easier to vote for the incumbent - and SO difficult for anyone trying to challenge them!  So, that is frustrating for me.  Aside from Mitch running a nasty campaign in this last election (sending "official looking" flyers to voters that appeared to come from the State Attorney General's office accusing Matt Bevin of fraud) - AND saying he was going to beat up (or some term like that, can't remember the exact words) the Tea Party and then having the gall to have his campaign call me begging for money!  Not so much lies - but disgusting behavior beneath a 30 year incumbent.

But it does point to the creep he really is. 

The biggest lie Mitch tells is when it comes to amnesty - or comprehensive immigration reform as it is called by those who favor it.  In 2006, when it slowly dawned on me that George W. Bush and the leaders in the GOP were pushing "amnesty", I wrote McConnell with my concerns and asked him to vote against it.  Apparently, a lot of Kentuckians did as well, he was besieged with his constituents demanding he vote against it.  This was when they could have actually done something about it.  He sent us all form letters saying that he HEARD us, and rest assured he would fight FOR us!  He didn't. 

Every election, he says he will fight for what conservatives want - and when he is re-elected, he goes back to his bipartisan crap where he joins Democrats in voting for bigger government, spending more money.  This is not what he runs on! 

Allison Lundergen Grimes lost because she was a stupid candidate and because Kentuckians hate Obama's guts because he is destroying the coal industry.  McConnell was supposed to stop that too.  No Democrat could have won with Obama hanging on their coat-tails.

McConnell lies to win elections - he has no intention of fighting big government - he is big government all the way.  I don't care what you say, Americans DON'T want Republicans to work WITH the Democrats!  The election showed that beyond a doubt, so why is Mitch pledging to work with them?   

So for all your rhetoric, the biggest "lie" you can point to is McConnell's style of campaigning.  That's pretty thin gruel.

The way politics works best is when you get something and I get something. That's the way Reagan got most of what he got, was by working with (not against) Democrats.

I'm hopeful that Mitch can do that. And, guess what?  When politicians can work together to get some things done, the ones who fostered the cooperation get rewarded for it.  Americans DO want Republicans and Democrats to work together. They haven't, for so long.  And maybe they still can't.

But it's worth a try.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Let's not fool ourselves into playing Charlie Brown to the democrat party's Lucy.  They are not interested in bipartisanship; certainly their leadership, which most effectively controls the rank-and-file, is not interested in bipartisanship.

We are not going to be bi-partisan.  We are just saying it.  Would it be wise for McConnell to say "screw the rats - we won the elections."?