Republican leaders hope to contain outrage in the ranks over Obama immigration moves....By Robert Costa

[aligncare]

Don't want to throw cold water here but, the immigration system is not broken. In fact, it works just fine. Thousands of people legally become citizens every day. The problem is, obviously, illegal immigration. That doesn't need immigration reform – that requires enforcement and politicians who won't use illegal immigration as a wedge issue for political purposes.

[Bigun]

Don't want to throw cold water here but, the immigration system is not broken. In fact, it works just fine. Thousands of people legally become citizens every day. The problem is, obviously, illegal immigration. That doesn't need immigration reform – that requires enforcement and politicians who won't use illegal immigration as a wedge issue for political purposes.

ABSOLUTELY right!

 

[alicewonders]

Don't want to throw cold water here but, the immigration system is not broken. In fact, it works just fine. Thousands of people legally become citizens every day. The problem is, obviously, illegal immigration. That doesn't need immigration reform – that requires enforcement and politicians who won't use illegal immigration as a wedge issue for political purposes.

POST OF THE DAY!

Enforce the laws already on the books - damnit!!!

[Bigun]

Now Senator elect from the state of Arkansas.

[truth_seeker]

This exercise is to permanently alienate Hispanics from the Republican Party. In part it will be done, by eliciting some crazy-nearly racist verbal outburst, from a conservative or two or three.

Volunteers please step forward. The press would like to record your statements.

[Scottftlc]

Don't want to throw cold water here but, the immigration system is not broken. In fact, it works just fine. Thousands of people legally become citizens every day. The problem is, obviously, illegal immigration. That doesn't need immigration reform – that requires enforcement and politicians who won't use illegal immigration as a wedge issue for political purposes.

Sorry to throw cold water on this but "politicians who won't use illegal immigration as a wedge issue for political purposes" is as impossible as a Bengal Tiger becoming a Vegan.  Politicians are largely sociopaths with an extremely inflated sense of self and an affinity for any easy solution to their top priority...which is feathering their personal nest.  You better look for solutions that do not require any level of altruistic behavior from people that have no capacity for it.  Or better yet, a solution that does not involve politicians at all.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Don't want to throw cold water here but, the immigration system is not broken. In fact, it works just fine. Thousands of people legally become citizens every day. The problem is, obviously, illegal immigration. That doesn't need immigration reform – that requires enforcement and politicians who won't use illegal immigration as a wedge issue for political purposes.

True.

The problem is not the "immigration system", but rather the 11 million people here illegally.

We're not going to round them up and deport them, and they're not leaving voluntarily.

And oh!

Senator elect Colton is half right, but the half where he's wrong is the crux of the matter.

I toured our produce suppliers out in California's Salinas Valley last year, and I saw who was working those fields.

If those workers leave, you can drive a bus up and down most inner city neighborhoods in the US all day every day offering jobs to the unemployed replacing the lost workers, and you'll get no takers.

American citizens living off the government teat create the void that these illegal aliens step into, so what Colton is missing in his "solution" is a plan to get Americans off the dole and on to those fields.

[Luis Gonzalez]

This exercise is to permanently alienate Hispanics from the Republican Party. In part it will be done, by eliciting some crazy-nearly racist verbal outburst, from a conservative or two or three.

Volunteers please step forward. The press would like to record your statements.

Just send a bullhorn to Tom Tancredo's house.

[sinkspur]

Obama plays conservatives like Nero played his fiddle.

Let him have his "amnesty", then walk into Congress in January and let the American people know that the Congress they elected is in session and ready to work for the American people, and not for the people here illegally, and that they're certainly NOT there to abide by Obama's mandates.

Tell black Americans that this Congress will work to try and better the lives of the millions of jobless blacks in the country, and not to legitimize competition for those jobs for political gain. Remind them that Treyvon Martin and Michael Brown and thousands of young black men and women died during the Obama Presidency, and he did nothing. 

In fact, remind the 92% of unemployed Black youngsters in Chicago as well as all the unemployed Blacks in the US, that the Senator they helped elect to the highest office in the land riding on the back of a promise for "change" and better days ahead TWICE, spent more political capital and worked harder in a week to secure jobs for illegal aliens, than he has worked at bettering their lives in six years.

DO NOT LET BARACK OBAMA SET THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS.

The GOP needs to assert the power of Congress and keep Obama on the ropes.

Pass legislation that creates jobs, cut taxes, increases energy independence and cuts down the debt, then shove it in Obama's face and dare him to veto anything.

Very good, Luis.

I would add one other thing, however. In order to indicate to Obama the seriousness of what he's done with his decree, Boehner should refrain from inviting him to deliver the State of the Union to a joint session of Congress.  It's not a requirement anyway, and he deserves a good slap in the face in a very harmless way.

If he's going to act like a king, a king has no place in the well of the People's House.

[Scottftlc]

I toured our produce suppliers out in California's Salinas Valley last year, and I saw who was working those fields.

If those workers leave, you can drive a bus up and down most inner city neighborhoods in the US all day every day offering jobs to the unemployed replacing the lost workers, and you'll get no takers.

American citizens living off the government teat create the void that these illegal aliens step into, so what Colton is missing in his "solution" is a plan to get Americans off the dole and on to those fields.

They don't even have to be on the government teat...try to get young American citizens from families here for more than one generation to work at manual labor and you will get no takers, they'd rather take on an easy 100k in debt to play around in college.  Problem is the need for manual labor, hard manual labor, will always to exist...even if a society maintains the TV-aided delusion that it has advanced beyond it.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Very good, Luis.

I would add one other thing, however. In order to indicate to Obama the seriousness of what he's done with his decree, Boehner should refrain from inviting him to deliver the State of the Union to a joint session of Congress.  It's not a requirement anyway, and he deserves a good slap in the face in a very harmless way.

If he's going to act like a king, a king has no place in the well of the People's House.

Yes, that would be appropriate.

[Bigun]

We're not going to round them up and deport them, and they're not leaving voluntarily.

Then they should NEVER become citizens! EVER!

[Luis Gonzalez]

Then they should NEVER become citizens! EVER!

That is amnesty.

[truth_seeker]

Just send a bullhorn to Tom Tancredo's house.

One need look no further than the frequent use of terms like "Juan" McCain and "Jorge" Bush, by so called patriots and conservatives, on their favorite forums.

To the so called conservative, it is funny. But to at least some Hispanics, it is taken as an insult.

[GourmetDan]

Lots of CAFOs around here.  U.S. citizens used to do the dirty-work of barn-washing.

Hispanic w/ connections to illegal workers came in, underbid the U.S. citizen businesses and now the illegals do all the work.

That business about U.S. citizens not being willing to do the dirty-work is just B.S. ...

[Bigun]

That is amnesty.

 

[Luis Gonzalez]

No, amnesty.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Lots of CAFOs around here.  U.S. citizens used to do the dirty-work of barn-washing.

Hispanic w/ connections to illegal workers came in, underbid the U.S. citizen businesses and now the illegals do all the work.

That business about U.S. citizens not being willing to do the dirty-work is just B.S. ...

When was the last time you tried hiring a dishwasher?

[Bigun]

No, amnesty.

That's EXACTLY right! NO Amnesty! EVER!

[Luis Gonzalez]

That's EXACTLY right! NO Amnesty! EVER!

Obama is not deporting them and not giving them citizenship, but we're calling that amnesty.

[Bigun]

When was the last time you tried hiring a dishwasher?

Why would anyone want to wash dishes for a living when they can sit at home an get a check from Uncle Sugar  for doing nothing?

[Bigun]

Obama is not deporting them and not giving them citizenship, but we're calling that amnesty.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/21/ernest-istook-obamas-amnesty-your-guide-gimmicks/print/

[olde north church]

When one creates a Third World atmosphere, one risks Third World solutions.

[Bigun]

Obama made a speech last night but other than that he hasn't actually DONE anything yet.

When he actually does something, and we have had the chance to see what that is, we will talk some more Luis.

But I will not budge from the following;

We as a nation must make it clear to everyone in the world who would like to become a US Citizen that there is only one way to do that! Get in line and follow the law to the letter!
 

[Luis Gonzalez]

Obama made a speech last night but other than that he hasn't actually DONE anything yet.

When he actually does something, and we have had the chance to see what that is, we will talk some more Luis.

But I will not budge from the following;

We as a nation must make it clear to everyone in the world who would like to become a US Citizen that there is only one way to do that! Get in line and follow the law to the letter!

YOU won't budge?

How's that working out for so far?