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Bigun:
There are a GREAT many people out here in the hinterlands who, like me,  have NO interest at all in getting along with Democrats! We want only to completely and utterly DEFEAT the Communist pukes once and for all!

MACVSOG68:

--- Quote from: Bigun on November 20, 2014, 09:04:34 pm ---Nope! In fact, I think it is the EXACT opposite of that!  I think that the ratings are sinking precisely because the current republican party leadership in Washington is signaling that they have COMPLETELY misinterpreted the election results!

The voters sent them to Washington to STOP Obama and they are signaling that they think they were sent there to work with Obama!

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The ratings of Congress have been in the toilet for years Bigun.  And if you understand something the polls don't then why are you opposed to impeachment?  Wouldn't that stop Obama?

MACVSOG68:

--- Quote from: Bigun on November 20, 2014, 09:07:25 pm ---There are a GREAT many people out here in the hinterlands who, like me,  have NO interest at all in getting along with Democrats! We want only to completely and utterly DEFEAT the Communist pukes once and for all!

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You chat with them regularly do you?  I wouldn't know how to estimate such a group short of some kind of statistical sample.  Do you?

Bigun:

--- Quote ---Well I know that both wealth and income taxes were around long before Marx was a gleam in daddy's eye.
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Indeed they were and have NEVER worked out well for those having to live under them!  A FACT the founders of this once great nation were clearly aware of!

And the FACT that Marx and Engles endorsed them right there in the Communist Manifesto makes them a MARXIST ideal in my book!

Here's the EXACT quote!

“The proletariat will use its political supremacy top wrest, by degrees, all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralize all instruments of production in the hands of the State, i.e., of the proletariat organized as the ruling class; and to increase the total of productive forces as rapidly as possible. Of course, in the beginning, this cannot be effected except by means of despotic inroads on the rights of property, and on the conditions of bourgeois production; by means of measures, therefore, which appear economically insufficient and untenable, but which, in the course of the movement, outstrip themselves, necessitate further inroads upon the old social order, and are unavoidable as a means of entirely revolutionizing the mode of production. These measures will of course be different in different countries. Nevertheless in the most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.
   
1.   Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
   
2.   A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
   
3.   Abolition of all right of inheritance.
   
4.   Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
   
5.   Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
   
6.   Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
   
7.   Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
   
8.   Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
   
9.   Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.
   
10.   Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c., &c.
   
When, in the course of development, class distinctions have disappeared, and all production has been concentrated in the hands of a vast association of the whole nation, the public power will lose its political character. Political power, properly so called, is merely the organized power of one class for oppressing another. If the proletariat during its contest with the bourgeoisie is compelled, by the force of circumstances, to organize itself as a class, if, by means of a revolution, it makes itself the ruling class, and, as such, sweeps away by force the old conditions of production, then it will, along with these conditions, have swept away the conditions for the existence of class antagonisms and of classes generally, and will thereby have abolished its own supremacy as a class. In place of the old bourgeois society, with its classes and class antagonisms, we shall have an association, in which the free development of each is the condition for the free development of all.”

Manifesto of the Communist Party, 1848, Chapter 2. Chapter II. Proletarians and Communists

Bigun:

--- Quote from: MACVSOG68 on November 20, 2014, 09:08:29 pm ---The ratings of Congress have been in the toilet for years Bigun.  And if you understand something the polls don't then why are you opposed to impeachment?  Wouldn't that stop Obama?

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Yes they have and, I think, for the exact reason I have already stated! There are very few in Congress who will DO what I think the people are literally BEGGING them to do which is STAND UP AN FIGHT!

I am not opposed to impeachment in principle but I do fully grasp the FACT that the milquetoast people we currently have in the leadership of our party cannot and will not carry it off!

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