Harry Reid to run for minority leader

[DCPatriot]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/08/01/do-nothing-congress-house-passed-more-than-350-bills-that-sit-on-harry-reids-desk-says-congresswoman/

Here is a link to a Blaze article that discusses the nature of the bills, how many, and the voting patterns that got them there.  Many of them passed unanimously, so they went through the house lickety split.  The rules won't be the same next time, if there is one. I am not going to try to make sense of it, all I can say is there is no way the same set of bills will get to McConnell's desk.

I don't want the "new and improved" Senate to change any 'rules'  that Dirty Harry  put in place....until either Obama drops dead or finishes his term...whichever comes first.

Let these SOB's feel what its been like the past few years.

First thing I'd do is REPEAL Obamacare in its entirety.  By the same tactics it was passed.

I'll even call the locksmith for them.

[jmyrlefuller]

Reports indicate Ted Cruz may challenge McConnell for the Speakership.

In that old boys' club, that would be political suicide. We all remember the shutdown: more Republicans were against it than for it. Now, if there had been a few primaries that went differently, I'd have said go right ahead with that, but the primaries were a disaster for the conservative base.

[jmyrlefuller]

I don't want the "new and improved" Senate to change any 'rules'  that Dirty Harry  put in place....until either Obama drops dead or finishes his term...whichever comes first.

Let these SOB's feel what its been like the past few years.

First thing I'd do is REPEAL Obamacare in its entirety.  By the same tactics it was passed.

I'll even call the locksmith for them.

I think first move for the GOP Senate should be the first time Reid pulls for a filibuster, McConnell "reinterprets the rules."

[Cyber Liberty]

I don't want the "new and improved" Senate to change any 'rules'  that Dirty Harry  put in place....until either Obama drops dead or finishes his term...whichever comes first.

Let these SOB's feel what its been like the past few years.

First thing I'd do is REPEAL Obamacare in its entirety.  By the same tactics it was passed.

I'll even call the locksmith for them.

I only had a simple point:  The 350 or so bills Reid choked off can't be considered under a new Senate because they expire at the end of the year.  That's it.  I was not making any conjecture on how to get them back, or if it's even desirable to do so. 

[EC]

I only had a simple point:  The 350 or so bills Reid choked off can't be considered under a new Senate because they expire at the end of the year.  That's it.  I was not making any conjecture on how to get them back, or if it's even desirable to do so.

True - they can't be considered. Doesn't mean the Speaker elect can't get some mileage out of them with the less informed voters.

[Cyber Liberty]

True - they can't be considered. Doesn't mean the Speaker elect can't get some mileage out of them with the less informed voters.

I can agree with that, with a caveat:  If the bills are bad for the country, then I don't want them considered.  I don't know enough about the specifics of the bills.

[aligncare]

In that old boys' club, that would be political suicide. We all remember the shutdown: more Republicans were against it than for it. Now, if there had been a few primaries that went differently, I'd have said go right ahead with that, but the primaries were a disaster for the conservative base.

Jim, I remember everyone lamenting what a disaster the government shutdown would be for republicans come the midterm. But, those radicals in congress, Mike Lee and Ted Cruz, shut the government down anyway (at least, that's how the media mythology goes).

One year later Republicans cleaned up. Turns out the shutdown had zero impact on the elections.

Just something to consider.

[Bigun]

Jim, I remember everyone lamenting what a disaster the government shutdown would be for republicans come the midterm. But, those radicals in congress, Mike Lee and Ted Cruz, shut the government down anyway (at least, that's how the media mythology goes).

One year later Republicans cleaned up. Turns out the shutdown had zero impact on the elections.

Just something to consider.

Excellent point!   

I do however think it had an impact but it sure wasn't a negative one!

[aligncare]

Excellent point!   

I do however think it had an impact but it sure wasn't a negative one!

You're right. On second thought maybe it did have an impact, on the RATS and the chief RAT, Obama (the one who actually did shut the government down).

Cruz was right to stand up to Obama and the moderates were wrong.

[Bigun]

You're right. On second thought maybe it did have an impact, on the RATS and the chief RAT, Obama (the one who actually did shut the government down).

Cruz was right to stand up to Obama and the moderates were wrong.

Absolutely! And the electorate took notice! FINALLY someone in Washington who will FIGHT!!!

[Cyber Liberty]

You're right. On second thought maybe it did have an impact, on the RATS and the chief RAT, Obama (the one who actually did shut the government down).

Cruz was right to stand up to Obama and the moderates were wrong.

Care to take a guess what the "lesson learned" is going to be?

[Bigun]

Care to take a guess what the "lesson learned" is going to be?

Nope!

[Cyber Liberty]

Nope!

You don't need to guess, I already know that you know too.   

[Bigun]

You don't need to guess, I already know that you know too.   

 

[aligncare]

Care to take a guess what the "lesson learned" is going to be?

Is it that voters will punish the party that does the shutting down? Or, is it that if you are perceived to be fighting for the electorate your party will be rewarded? Help me out here, I've had only six years of post graduate study.

[Cyber Liberty]

(1) Is it that voters will punish the party that does the shutting down? (2) Or, is it that if you are perceived to be fighting for the electorate your party will be rewarded? Help me out here, I've had only six years of post graduate study.

The reality is the second, but the friends the politicians listen to on the cocktail party circuit will push the first.  The GOP typically takes the wrong lesson, in this case, "Voters will punish the party that does the shutting down."  Because of the media, as it's constituted today, that party is always the elephant.  It doesn't matter who's fault it really is.  They blamed Reagan when he was President, and they blamed Gingrich (and later Cruz) when they're in Congress.

No wonder Republicans are gun-shy about it, they always get blamed no matter what.