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Obama: If The GOP Passes An Immigration Bill, The Executive Actions That I Take Go Away
by DEBRA HEINE  5 Nov 2014

NBC political analyst Chuck Todd predicted Tuesday night that the president would have to back away from his threat to act unilaterally on immigration because of the Republican sweep.

“I think politically, tonight, it put an end to it. It would be a provocative act, politically,” Todd said. “The president is going to know that if he does this, he is starting a political war in Washington between the White House and the Republican Congress. He’d be stuck.”

That seemed like a reasonable opinion last night -- while the waves of the stunning political tsunami were still slowly subsiding.

But Dr. Charles Krauthammer, a trained psychologist, has Obama better pegged than that. He understands the psychology of a narcissist who loves conflict and "rubbing raw the resentments of the people."

"I think the president's threatening this because he wants to do it," Krauthammer explained on Special Report Wednesday.  "I think he's all the more anxious to go ahead and do this because it makes him relevant, it makes him the center of the universe again. He is not a happy man that he was asked for a year by his own Democrats to stay away and be invisible. This is a guy who doesn't enjoy being invisible and, look, what are we talking about tonight? A little bit on the election itself, and now about what he's going to do. He's back in the game, he's relevant now. This is exactly why he wants immigration. Republicans have to resist the temptation, this is impeachment bait or all kinds of nonsense bait. Do what you can, suspend the financing of this because you have the power of the purse. But create your own agenda and don't allow Obama to suck you into a one-issue fall."

Obama doubled down on the amnesty threat during today's press conference, affirming that it would happen because Republicans haven't been willing to work with him for the past two years. He said that the best way to avoid his unlawful action would be for Congress to cooperate and put a bill on his desk. Sounding like a Chicago shakedown artist, the president promised that if Congress behaves and passes an immigration law he likes, the executive overreach will "go away."

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"I think that the best way, if folks are serious about getting immigration reform done, is going ahead and passing a bill and getting it to my desk. And then the executive actions that I take go away. They’re superseded by the law that is passed. And I will engage any member of Congress who’s interested in this in how we can shape legislation that will be a significant improvement over the existing system.

Serious question: How is it not a form of extortion for a president to threaten to take an extreme unilateral action if Congress doesn't do what he wants?

So far response from Republican leadership has been tepid:

Republican Sen. Mitch McConnell, in line to be the next Majority Leader, said Wednesday that it would be a "mistake" for the president to take unilateral action on immigration and that it would "antagonize" Republicans.

But the American people who just handed the reins of power in the Senate to the Republicans, don't particularly care about their "feelings" regarding Obama's latest abuse of power. They want action.

Republican Senators Ted Cruz of Texas, Mike Lee of Utah, Jeff Sessions of Alabama, Pat Roberts of Kansas, Mike Crapo of Idaho, and David Vitter of Louisiana have risen to the occasion, sending a letter to lame-duck Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid Wednesday, saying that if Obama takes unilateral action to grant amnesty to illegal aliens, it "will create a constitutional crisis."
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The senators told Reid that they would assist him in enacting a measure to stop Obama from unilaterally granting an amnesty, but that if Reid lets Obama go forward with such an amnesty they "would use all procedural means necessary" to make the Senate focus on the constitutional crisis they say that this "lawless amnesty" would create.

"We write to express our alarm with President Obama's announced intention to take unilateral executive action by the end of this year to lawlessly grant amnesty to immigrants who have entered the country illegally," the senators wrote Reid.

"The Supreme Court has recognized that 'over no conceivable subject is the power of Congress more complete' than its power over immigration," the senators said. "Therefore, President Obama will be exercising powers properly belonging to Congress if he makes good his threat.

Stay tuned. We are in for a bumpy ride.
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And I will engage any member of Congress who’s interested in this in how we can shape legislation that will be a significant improvement over the existing system.

That's just the problem.  The problem is with the existing system not the existing law.  The law, although flawed, is serviceable as it is.  But the law is not being enforced.  If the president ignores existing law, why would he also not ignore any new law?  Answer: he would enforce the new law only to the extent that it gave him political cover to do what he wants.

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And I will engage any member of Congress who’s interested in this in how we can shape legislation that will be a significant improvement over the existing system.

That's just the problem.  The problem is with the existing system not the existing law.  The law, although flawed, is serviceable as it is.  But the law is not being enforced.  If the president ignores existing law, why would he also not ignore any new law?  Answer: he would enforce the new law only to the extent that it gave him political cover to do what he wants.

You ask an EXCELLENT question Victor!  Of what use is ANY law that can be picked apart and selectively enforced? I am absolutely sure that the founders never intended to give ANY president the authority to do that!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

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And I will engage any member of Congress who’s interested in this in how we can shape legislation that will be a significant improvement over the existing system.

That's just the problem.  The problem is with the existing system not the existing law.  The law, although flawed, is serviceable as it is.  But the law is not being enforced.  If the president ignores existing law, why would he also not ignore any new law?  Answer: he would enforce the new law only to the extent that it gave him political cover to do what he wants.

The problem is seven years ago Harry Reid handed the Republicans everything they could possibly have wanted on immigration, which they promptly turned down saying the same thing, "just enforce the laws you have", and "How can we be sure".    And how are we doing today...seven years later?
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The problem is seven years ago Harry Reid handed the Republicans everything they could possibly have wanted on immigration, which they promptly turned down saying the same thing, "just enforce the laws you have", and "How can we be sure".    And how are we doing today...seven years later?

Uh... we just won the senate, at least 10 new house seats, 2/3 of state legislatures and 30 governorships.  I'd say we are doing pretty well.

The voters want immigration law enforced.  Amnesty is politically toxic.  The wave of child refugees this summer in the aftermath of OPapaDoc's first amnesty demonstrated to the electorate the truth in the argument that amnesty is an invitation to every citizen in the third world to come here and disobey our laws.

Sometimes the best strategy is to let your political adversary alone to destroy himself.

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The problem is seven years ago Harry Reid handed the Republicans everything they could possibly have wanted on immigration, which they promptly turned down saying the same thing, "just enforce the laws you have", and "How can we be sure".    And how are we doing today...seven years later?

Uh NO! As I recall that offer included blanket amnesty for all those currently in this country illegally and I don't  personally know anyone who wants that! I do however know who is pushing it!
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Uh NO! As I recall that offer included blanket amnesty for all those currently in this country illegally and I don't  personally know anyone who wants that! I do however know who is pushing it!

No, it did not.  They could not have any serious criminal history, had to be in the Country for some period, had to be employed, could not be using then or in the future any welfare, register and pay a series of fines and penalties.  And then only after several other issues had been certified as completed, including border security and a fraud-proof identification system.
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No, it did not.  They could not have any serious criminal history, had to be in the Country for some period, had to be employed, could not be using then or in the future any welfare, register and pay a series of fines and penalties.  And then only after several other issues had been certified as completed, including border security and a fraud-proof identification system.

If you say so Mac! That is NOT how I remember it!
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Perhaps McConnell and Boehner are onto something.  Rather than rachetting up the response, they are not necessarily ignoring him but not playing into his game.  Like the petulant, little snot he is, he tries to raise the stakes to get more attention.  He inserted himself into the Congressional races and his actions made the situation worse.  Who's the center of attention now?
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Perhaps McConnell and Boehner are onto something.  Rather than rachetting up the response, they are not necessarily ignoring him but not playing into his game.  Like the petulant, little snot he is, he tries to raise the stakes to get more attention.  He inserted himself into the Congressional races and his actions made the situation worse.  Who's the center of attention now?

"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.