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Islam; a German view!!!
« on: October 16, 2014, 12:09:09 pm »


Islam; a German view!!!

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A  German's View on Islam - worth reading. This is one of the best explanations of the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read. His references to past history are accurate and clear. Not long, easy to understand, and well worth the read. The author of this email is Dr. Emanuel Tanya, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist.    A man, whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II, owned a number of large industries and  estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.

  'Very few people were true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many  more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come.’

  ‘My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.'

  ‘We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is a religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the specter of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.’

  ‘The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is  the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honor-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.’

  ‘The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent majority,' is cowed and  extraneous. Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant. China 's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.’

  ‘The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet. And who can forget Rwanda , which collapsed into butchery? Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?

  ‘History lessons are often  incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence. Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany , they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will  have begun.’

  ‘Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.’

  ‘Now Islamic prayers have been  introduced in Toronto and other public  schools in Ontario , and, yes, in  Ottawa ,  too, while the Lord's Prayer was removed (due to being so offensive?). The  Islamic way may be peaceful for the time being in our country until the  fanatics move in.’

  ‘In Australia , and indeed in many countries around the world, many of the most commonly consumed food items have the halal emblem on them. Just look at the back of some of the most popular chocolate bars, and at other food items in your local supermarket. Food on aircraft have the halal emblem just to appease the privileged minority who are now rapidly expanding within the nation's shores.’


  ‘In the U.K, the Muslim communities refuse to integrate and there are now dozens of "no-go" zones within major cities across the country that the police force dare not  intrude upon. Sharia law prevails there, because the Muslim community in those areas refuse to acknowledge British law.’


  ‘As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts - the fanatics who threaten our way of life.’

  Lastly, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious and just deletes this email without  sending it on, is contributing to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand.


 Extend yourself a bit and send  this on. Let us hope that thousands world-wide read this, think about it,  and send it on before it's too late, and we are silenced because we were  silent!!!


 

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Re: Islam; a German view!!!
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2014, 01:07:07 pm »
I disagree totally.
Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

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Re: Islam; a German view!!!
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2014, 01:13:52 pm »
I disagree totally.

Well, I disagree with your disagreement.

This piece essentially confirms the adage that


"The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing" ...Edmund Burke
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"Journalism is about covering the news.  With a pillow.  Until it stops moving."    - David Burge (Iowahawk)

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Re: Islam; a German view!!!
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2014, 01:38:08 pm »
Well, I disagree with your disagreement.

This piece essentially confirms the adage that


"The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing" ...Edmund Burke

Which part of my total disagreement with?  I should have been more clear with my "total disagreement" though.
Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2014, 02:03:13 pm »
Which part of my total disagreement with?  I should have been more clear with my "total disagreement" though.

Let's start over, then. 

The article details how, when the majority remains silent about the tyranny demonstrated by a "small" minority, resulting time and again, with that minority ruling and eventually 'owning' you.

So...let's begin with the question.  Exactly what are you disagreeing with "totally" ??
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2014, 02:15:49 pm »
Let's start over, then. 

The article details how, when the majority remains silent about the tyranny demonstrated by a "small" minority, resulting time and again, with that minority ruling and eventually 'owning' you.

So...let's begin with the question.  Exactly what are you disagreeing with "totally" ??

I don't believe there is a "moderate muslim".  I know too much about the "religion" to get sucked into that.
Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2014, 02:20:47 pm »
I don't believe there is a "moderate muslim".  I know too much about the "religion" to get sucked into that.

So....you didn't actually read the entire article, did you.   :police:

It wasn't ONLY about Islam....it gave examples of Germany pre-Hitler, Russia, pre-Stalin, China pre-Mao and Japan, pre WWII.   
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"Journalism is about covering the news.  With a pillow.  Until it stops moving."    - David Burge (Iowahawk)

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2014, 02:41:02 pm »
So....you didn't actually read the entire article, did you.   :police:

It wasn't ONLY about Islam....it gave examples of Germany pre-Hitler, Russia, pre-Stalin, China pre-Mao and Japan, pre WWII.

I did read the article.  How not every person from a particular nation during wartime can be held responsible for the actions of that nations (or religion).  I disagree.  I believe Henry David Thoreau or the other guy who went to prison because they wouldn't pay taxes to pay for the Mexican-American War.  If you pay taxes, you're part of the war machine.
Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2014, 02:47:28 pm »
I did read the article.  How not every person from a particular nation during wartime can be held responsible for the actions of that nations (or religion).  I disagree.  I believe Henry David Thoreau or the other guy who went to prison because they wouldn't pay taxes to pay for the Mexican-American War.  If you pay taxes, you're part of the war machine.

The guy that didn't pay taxes in protest is the guy that is "owned" by the ruling minority.  That's the point. 

The protest needed to be activated BEFORE the minority has the chance to get into power.  THAT'S when good men need to speak up.

But I can see why they justified bombing Berlin and Dresden....and Hiroshima and Nagasaki into oblivion without it hurting their conscience.
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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2014, 03:00:18 pm »
The guy that didn't pay taxes in protest is the guy that is "owned" by the ruling minority.  That's the point. 

The protest needed to be activated BEFORE the minority has the chance to get into power.  THAT'S when good men need to speak up.

But I can see why they justified bombing Berlin and Dresden....and Hiroshima and Nagasaki into oblivion without it hurting their conscience.

There should be many an arrow in a man's quiver.  Each has a purpose.
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Re: Islam; a German view!!!
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2014, 05:53:53 pm »
I don't believe there is a "moderate muslim".  I know too much about the "religion" to get sucked into that.

Just my tiny interjection:  The article says the "moderates" are non-consequential, you are saying the "moderates" are non-existent.  I think that's a distinction without a difference.  It doesn't matter which they are, it's the fanatics that are driving the boat, and are the ones that are going to have to be wiped out for this to end.  If anybody is on the battlefield claiming to be a non-participant, too bad for them and it doesn't matter if they paid taxes or participated in any other way.  Women and children were killed in Dresden and Hiroshima.   Tough luck. 

This is why, until Obama, we have made great efforts to not be the battlefield.
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2014, 06:26:47 pm »
Just my tiny interjection:  The article says the "moderates" are non-consequential, you are saying the "moderates" are non-existent.  I think that's a distinction without a difference.  It doesn't matter which they are, it's the fanatics that are driving the boat, and are the ones that are going to have to be wiped out for this to end.  If anybody is on the battlefield claiming to be a non-participant, too bad for them and it doesn't matter if they paid taxes or participated in any other way.  Women and children were killed in Dresden and Hiroshima.   Tough luck. 

This is why, until Obama, we have made great efforts to not be the battlefield.

A few weeks ago they were talking about the Yahzidis(? spelling).  If I'm not mistaken, one of the reports had a comment from one of them about it not being ISIS fighters who were doing the killing, it was their neighbors/friends who were doing the killing.  The ISIS gangbangers were the people doing the "attrocities".
One comment from 10,000 refugees?  Some may choose to dismiss it.  I know better.  Mob psychology has shown otherwise.  To put it another way?  What do you mean WE paleface?
Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2014, 06:33:25 pm »
To put it another way?  What do you mean WE paleface?

That's heap big truth in a little tiny wampum (a little Indian lingo for the folks in Rio Linda)...It's amazing how much criminal activity can be covered up in the fog of war.
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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2014, 06:49:47 pm »
The problem with Islam is not that moderates don't exist; they do. The problem with Islam is the Koran. It's passages contain many explicit instructions to adherents to conduct violence upon nonbelievers. That leaves an opening for violent extremists to act.

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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2014, 02:06:49 am »
aligncare wrote above:
[[ The problem with Islam is not that moderates don't exist; they do. ]]

The "moderate" muslim may not "wear the uniform" of the jihadi, but he "supports the troops"...

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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2014, 10:08:18 am »
aligncare wrote above:
[[ The problem with Islam is not that moderates don't exist; they do. ]]

The "moderate" muslim may not "wear the uniform" of the jihadi, but he "supports the troops"...

So you mean "moderates" don't support jihadis overtly but do support them covertly as the Koran tells them to do?

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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2014, 10:34:35 am »
So you mean "moderates" don't support jihadis overtly but do support them covertly as the Koran tells them to do?

No, they don't.
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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2014, 11:17:46 am »
No, they don't.

Support them covertly?

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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2014, 12:17:20 pm »
No, they don't.

Does every last one of them?  Of course not.  An overwhelming majority do.
Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.