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Where did it go wrong for Obama?
« on: October 15, 2014, 12:38:31 pm »
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/220775-where-did-it-go-wrong-for-obama

By Amie Parnes - 10/15/14 06:00 AM EDT

Fewer than two years ago, President Obama was elected handily to his second term, becoming the first Democrat since FDR to twice win an outright majority of the popular vote.

Now, Democrats in competitive Senate races hope he stays as far away as possible, previous heartlands of support such as Iowa have turned against him and his approval ratings are languishing in the low 40s — sometimes lower.

Political observers, from former Obama aides to staffers who served in previous administrations, say something is going to have to change if the president is to achieve anything at all in his last two years in office.
“It is a near metaphysical certainty that in his last two years, he’ll confront the same House he has in the last four years,” said William Galston, a senior fellow of governance studies at the Brookings Institution who served as an adviser to former President Clinton during his White House years.

“So the question is, how are they going to deal with that? If they deal with the same House in the same way, they’ll get the same results.”

Galston advised a different approach. Obama would be “well-advised” to reach out to the Republican congressional leadership immediately after the midterm elections, he said, and should resist the temptation to dig deeper into a partisan trench.

“He should say ‘Look, all three of us now face the same choice. ... Do we want to spend the next two years messaging and preparing for 2016 or would we like to spend a few months legislating?’ ”

To be sure, the decline in Obama’s political fortunes cannot be blamed on the kind of major scandal that has marred other modern second terms, such as Watergate, Iran-Contra or the Monica Lewinsky affair.

That leaves observers who are sympathetic to Obama putting forth all kinds of explanations, even as Republicans suggest the dwindling support for the president was both inevitable and overdue.

Tony Fratto, who served as deputy press secretary to former President George W. Bush, believes Obama’s second term was over before it even started. He pinpoints the start of the problem as the “fiscal cliff” negotiations in December 2012, the month before Obama would take the oath of office for the second time.

Obama won the tit-for-tat fight. But Fratto argued that the president pushed Republicans so far into a corner on that occasion that there was no possibility of them working with him on any other issue.

“He got what he wanted and that was clearly a victory for him,” Fratto said. “But what I really don’t understand is why he thought the relationship would improve after that. It could only get worse, and it got worse.”

Democrats take issue with that characterization, contending that the GOP has taken an obstructionist approach to Obama since he was first elected.

More broadly, senior administration officials disagree with any suggestion that Obama’s second term has fallen flat.

They point out that the president has overseen an economy that has added 10.3 million jobs over 55 straight months of employment growth, the longest streak in recent history. The national unemployment rate fell to 5.9 percent in September, the lowest figure since 2008.

There is more to boast about than just the economy, the officials add. When it comes to climate issues, the use of wind power has tripled and solar power has increased tenfold, they say. And they highlight Obama’s second-term work on healthcare, noting that 10.3 million previously uninsured Americans are now covered.

But even former aides to Obama are casting around for explanations as to why his stock of political capital has depleted so rapidly.

“I’m still struggling to figure this out,” said one former senior administration official. “I think a lot of it boils down to this mindset that, ‘we all have the answers and we’re smarter than everybody else and we can do this.’ ”

This source said that the element of hubris was exacerbated by the “level of insularity,” adding, “I don’t know if the president has stopped trying or he’s tired of it but the White House seems to be perpetually in a bunker mode.”

A second former senior administration official suggested that a lack of focus had allowed erstwhile priorities like immigration reform and gun control to slip away. 

“With immigration, the mistake was always letting other things become a bigger priority and not putting it [on the] front burner,” the second former official said. “Once it passed the Senate, they should have kept their foot on the gas. There was a lot more momentum at the time.

“Once you put it off, it’s over,” the former aide continued. “It should have never waited that long. It fell off the radar.”

Former officials and other observers agree that, above all, Obama has failed to connect with the American public, particularly on big, unfamiliar issues such as the rise of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.

This, observers say, could explain his low approval numbers. But the communications failure is particularly striking from a president whose soaring oratory played such a big part in his initial rise to prominence and power.

“The president is not engaging externally on a personal level,” said the first former official. “It’s all done through analysis and fact sheets. But he’s not someone with the retail side. I think he’s right on the facts but he’s wrong on packaging it and making people feel invested in it the way someone like Bill Clinton can.”

Recalling Obama’s now-famous 2012 remark that Clinton was the “secretary of explaining stuff,” Galston said he heard in that comment a “tacit concession” that Obama himself wasn’t particularly adept in that area.

But, as Galston explained, “When things are happening at home and in the world that are new and threatening, the president, as explainer in chief, becomes all the more important.”
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Re: Where did it go wrong for Obama?
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2014, 12:56:23 pm »
It's interesting to read the strained reasoning of people who were fooled by Obama and now are trying to figure out why he's "lost it."

Hint..........he never had it.  He's always been a selfish punk who doesn't care about anyone but himself.

It just took the American people 6 years to figure it out because the media did such a remarkable job of turning him into something he never was.....

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Re: Where did it go wrong for Obama?
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2014, 01:11:27 pm »



I submit that he's not "gone wrong" at all.

He's been enormously successful in his planned destruction of our Republic.

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Re: Where did it go wrong for Obama?
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2014, 01:11:59 pm »
And still, 40% support him.  That's diehard zealots.  Still, almost half!
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Re: Where did it go wrong for Obama?
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2014, 01:18:43 pm »



I submit that he's not "gone wrong" at all.

He's been enormously successful in his planned destruction of our Republic.

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Re: Where did it go wrong for Obama?
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2014, 04:22:46 pm »
And still, 40% support him.  That's diehard zealots.  Still, almost half!

They're emotionally invested in him, Alice.  Besides, where would they go?  They are positively Pavlovian about how evil the Republicans are, so they'll stick with him no matter how bad it gets.  I suggest 40% is a floor of support, and positive ratings for Obama and the rest of the Dems will never drop below that.  Never.  No matter what.
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Re: Where did it go wrong for Obama?
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2014, 04:34:39 pm »
They're emotionally invested in him, Alice.  Besides, where would they go?  They are positively Pavlovian about how evil the Republicans are, so they'll stick with him no matter how bad it gets.  I suggest 40% is a floor of support, and positive ratings for Obama and the rest of the Dems will never drop below that.  Never.  No matter what.

I agree but would say that it is much more than just emotional attachment.  After 50 years of "great society" programs and the tremendous expansion of government it is cultural and fiscal attachment as well.
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Re: Where did it go wrong for Obama?
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2014, 04:40:36 pm »
 
I agree but would say that it is much more than just emotional attachment.  After 50 years of "great society" programs and the tremendous expansion of government it is cultural and fiscal attachment as well.

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Re: Where did it go wrong for Obama?
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2014, 04:46:51 pm »
The guy has actively attacked every single thing that made America great.
 
NASA, gone.
Military, gone.
Economy, gone.
Rule of Law, gone.
Security, gone.
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It is all gone under Obama.
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He is Jimmah Cattah ten times over. His goal is to make us 'feel the pain' of all the rest of the shithole countries in the world, which is where he is from and what he knows. It is just 'not right' that America should be so successful. And he is here to 'make it fair'. And he has done a good job at that for everyone but himself. He lives a life of unbelievable luxury.
 
In his very, very, 'typical' Leftist mind, he does not think it is 'right' that anyone else should be comfortable. We need to suffer. But he thinks of himself as the King.
 
He, like many Leftists, thinks he can bring the pain to others without feeling it himself. Historically this has never worked out like the Left thinks it will.
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Re: Where did it go wrong for Obama?
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2014, 04:57:33 pm »
They're emotionally invested in him, Alice.  Besides, where would they go?  They are positively Pavlovian about how evil the Republicans are, so they'll stick with him no matter how bad it gets.  I suggest 40% is a floor of support, and positive ratings for Obama and the rest of the Dems will never drop below that.  Never.  No matter what.

When you take all the people who mindlessly vote Democat, even if Adolf Hitler was on the ballot, when you add it up you get to around 40%.
 
Almost all Jews.
All the Muslims.
All the Blacks.
All the criminals.
All the deadbeat losers.
All the stupid and retarded.
All the hippy Leftist zealots.
All the young who hate authority and their parents.
All the psudo intellectuals who think they are smarter than everyone else.
 
That adds up to a lot of people.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
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Re: Where did it go wrong for Obama?
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2014, 05:13:51 pm »

When you take all the people who mindlessly vote Democat, even if Adolf Hitler was on the ballot, when you add it up you get to around 40%.
 
Almost all Jews.
All the Muslims.
All the Blacks.
All the criminals.
All the deadbeat losers.
All the stupid and retarded.
All the hippy Leftist zealots.
All the young who hate authority and their parents.
All the psudo intellectuals who think they are smarter than everyone else.
 
That adds up to a lot of people.

Your arithmetic is sound.

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