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What's Keeping Obama's Approval Ratings Up?
« on: September 03, 2014, 12:59:08 pm »
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/090214-715650-what-is-holding-obama-approval-ratings-up.htm

Very interesting numbers here...unfortunately IBD will only let me post the headline and link so to read this you have to go to their site....
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Re: What's Keeping Obama's Approval Ratings Up?
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2014, 01:34:23 pm »
LIVs, freeloaders, druggies, black folk....yada yada....the list of usual suspects.
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Re: What's Keeping Obama's Approval Ratings Up?
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2014, 01:50:23 pm »
LIVs, freeloaders, druggies, black folk....yada yada....the list of usual suspects.

You left out radical, fanatic, hard-core Leftists who can never admit that they were wrong, even if it costs them, their own family, friends, and neighbors, their very lives. Some Leftists are fanatical. They are suffering from a kind of insanity. They are religious zealots. And nothing, no fact or reality will ever change their mind of how 'correct' their thinking is.
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Re: What's Keeping Obama's Approval Ratings Up?
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2014, 01:42:04 am »

You left out radical, fanatic, hard-core Leftists who can never admit that they were wrong, even if it costs them, their own family, friends, and neighbors, their very lives. Some Leftists are fanatical. They are suffering from a kind of insanity. They are religious zealots. And nothing, no fact or reality will ever change their mind of how 'correct' their thinking is.

Them too  :beer:
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Re: What's Keeping Obama's Approval Ratings Up?
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2014, 02:08:17 am »
IBD asks:
[[ What's Keeping Obama's Approval Ratings Up? ]]

What's keeping them up is the reality that the United States has now divided into essentially two different nations.

On one side are the traditional Euro-Americans, who harbor the beliefs and mores of "the old ways" that the left derides. This cohort is inherently suspicious and distrustful of government motives, preferring to "cling to" concepts that built the nation -- work, independence, morality, Christianity.

On the other side are the "new slavery" Americans -- a combination of leftists, loonies, queerists, socialists (and outright communists who don't call themselves as such, preferring the moniker of "progressive" or "democrat"), and [mostly minority] "gibs me dat" folks. These people are the opposite of the "old Americans" -- they will embrace the government Big Daddy as their new "Massa", happy with what he gives them, without worrying much about what they are expected to surrender in return.

This second group is not quite yet in the majority, but they're getting close, and they know it. They can smell the victory of finally having the numbers to knock the Old Americans out-of-power forever. Hence the rush to remove what's left of the southern border and pack the place with as many illegals as possible.

This is why Obama's (and the left's) numbers refuse to sink below a certain baseline. That baseline is the "red line" of the new slaves.

We are moving towards a state of "cold civil war"....

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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2014, 02:16:14 am »
Add low information voters to the list. The ones you see on the man on the street videos where they cant name the VP, or think we fought the British during the Civil War.
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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2014, 02:35:25 am »
Add low information voters to the list. The ones you see on the man on the street videos where they cant name the VP, or think we fought the British during the Civil War.
They're on there Navy..LIVs. I actually consider them to be the worst rabble of the bunch.
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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2014, 02:39:42 am »
 or think we fought the British during the Civil War.
They're on there Navy..LIVs. I actually consider them to be the worst rabble of the bunch.

...OR think we fought the civil war to "free the slaves".
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Re: What's Keeping Obama's Approval Ratings Up?
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2014, 03:25:58 am »
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/090214-715650-what-is-holding-obama-approval-ratings-up.htm

Very interesting numbers here...unfortunately IBD will only let me post the headline and link so to read this you have to go to their site....

People who still have a land line that they answer make up the majority of polling.  We only have a land line because it's free in our Xfinity package.  I literally haven't called anyone I know on our land line in almost 4 years, let alone answered a call.
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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2014, 03:27:59 am »

You left out radical, fanatic, hard-core Leftists who can never admit that they were wrong, even if it costs them, their own family, friends, and neighbors, their very lives. Some Leftists are fanatical. They are suffering from a kind of insanity. They are religious zealots. And nothing, no fact or reality will ever change their mind of how 'correct' their thinking is.

Reminds me a bit of the far right extremists who claim they vote Democrat over GOPe candidates "because there is no difference."
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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2014, 12:21:29 pm »
How about the lying, distorting, truth hiding, unquestioning, unethical media? :bullie smokin:  As William Tecumseh Sherman felt: if he executed every newspaperman in camp after dinner, there would be news from Hell before breakfast.

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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2014, 12:32:42 pm »
How about the lying, distorting, truth hiding, unquestioning, unethical media? :bullie smokin:  As William Tecumseh Sherman felt: if he executed every newspaperman in camp after dinner, there would be news from Hell before breakfast.
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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2014, 12:46:04 pm »
Add low information voters to the list. The ones you see on the man on the street videos where they cant name the VP, or think we fought the British during the Civil War.

Don't laugh...we almost did fight them.
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« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2014, 12:59:22 pm »
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/090214-715650-what-is-holding-obama-approval-ratings-up.htm

Very interesting numbers here...unfortunately IBD will only let me post the headline and link so to read this you have to go to their site....

Not surprising.  When asked about handling of actual issues, the truth comes out.  When asked about Obama in general I think they're a lot less harsh.  Half the nation voted for him...twice, and many of them still like him as a person, think he's trying to do "right", and still hold Bush and the Republicans responsible for everything before, during, and after the Bush years.  And of course a few say he's doing a good job because they just want to keep his numbers up even though they know he isn't, just to poke the right.
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Re: What's Keeping Obama's Approval Ratings Up?
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2014, 01:24:32 pm »
Polling is a science and the people who do these polls are professionals who know EXACTLY when, where, and who to call to get the EXACT result they want.

These polls are designed to DRIVE public opinion rather than measure it.  Don't pay any attention to any of it!
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« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2014, 01:30:47 pm »
Polling is a science and the people who do these polls are professionals who know EXACTLY when, where, and who to call to get the EXACT result they want.

These polls are designed to DRIVE public opinion rather than measure it.  Don't pay any attention to any of it!

It was just posted elsewhere that they only poll people who have land lines as opposed to cell phones.

How 'scientific' is it to create a data bank of numbers that will provide you the result you're seeking?

Any high school student...at least a private high school student...could create one.   :laugh:
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Re: What's Keeping Obama's Approval Ratings Up?
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2014, 02:02:54 pm »
Polling is a science and the people who do these polls are professionals who know EXACTLY when, where, and who to call to get the EXACT result they want.

These polls are designed to DRIVE public opinion rather than measure it.  Don't pay any attention to any of it!

That's right Bigun.  In fact, i would more than likely believe that the opposite of the poll result would be closer to the truth. 

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Re: What's Keeping Obama's Approval Ratings Up?
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2014, 02:20:12 pm »
It was just posted elsewhere that they only poll people who have land lines as opposed to cell phones.

How 'scientific' is it to create a data bank of numbers that will provide you the result you're seeking?

Any high school student...at least a private high school student...could create one.   :laugh:

And I think they only reason they get away with land lines is that the people who vote are older and they still have land lines. With every advancing year that is going to hold less and less true.
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« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2014, 02:21:30 pm »
Not surprising.  When asked about handling of actual issues, the truth comes out.  When asked about Obama in general I think they're a lot less harsh.  Half the nation voted for him...twice, and many of them still like him as a person, think he's trying to do "right", and still hold Bush and the Republicans responsible for everything before, during, and after the Bush years.  And of course a few say he's doing a good job because they just want to keep his numbers up even though they know he isn't, just to poke the right.

Of course as a general matter they're going to go easy on him - to do otherwise is to incur the wrath of the left and have curses of "racist" rained down upon your head.

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Re: What's Keeping Obama's Approval Ratings Up?
« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2014, 02:25:57 pm »
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/09/03/gallup-obaa-slips-back-into-thirties

Gallup: Obama Drops to 39% Job Approval

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According to Gallup's daily tracking poll of President Obama's approval rating, the president lost 5 whole points overnight and for the first time since July, his job approval rating is back on the 30's. Tuesday, Obama stood at 42% approval, 52% disapproval. Wednesday the numbers sit at 39-54%.

The president is 15 points underwater.

Currently, in the Real Clear Politics poll of polls, which as of this writing has not been updated with today's Gallup numbers, the president is upside down 10 points: 42% approve, 52% disapprove. The president has not been above water in the RCP poll of polls since June of last year.
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Re: What's Keeping Obama's Approval Ratings Up?
« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2014, 02:39:09 pm »
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/09/03/gallup-obaa-slips-back-into-thirties

Gallup: Obama Drops to 39% Job Approval

 by John Nolte 3 Sep 2014

According to Gallup's daily tracking poll of President Obama's approval rating, the president lost 5 whole points overnight and for the first time since July, his job approval rating is back on the 30's. Tuesday, Obama stood at 42% approval, 52% disapproval. Wednesday the numbers sit at 39-54%.

The president is 15 points underwater.

Currently, in the Real Clear Politics poll of polls, which as of this writing has not been updated with today's Gallup numbers, the president is upside down 10 points: 42% approve, 52% disapprove. The president has not been above water in the RCP poll of polls since June of last year.

Even those who "ignore" all polls as being irrelevant and unreliable have to at least recognize patterns that form with many polls from unrelated companies.
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Re: What's Keeping Obama's Approval Ratings Up?
« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2014, 03:17:40 pm »
Even those who "ignore" all polls as being irrelevant and unreliable have to at least recognize patterns that form with many polls from unrelated companies.

True, I do see the patterns and that is very telling as to what issues are most concerning to whoever is paying for the polling.  So, I don't dismiss the polls - on the contrary - polls are valuable as "weather vanes".  They show you which way the prevailing wind is blowing - an insight into what issues are on the front burner. 

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« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2014, 03:30:28 pm »
True, I do see the patterns and that is very telling as to what issues are most concerning to whoever is paying for the polling.  So, I don't dismiss the polls - on the contrary - polls are valuable as "weather vanes".  They show you which way the prevailing wind is blowing - an insight into what issues are on the front burner.

As liberal as most of the media is, the fact they are publishing these polls showing Obama's dropping approval in these issues is very telling. 
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« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2014, 03:46:24 pm »
As liberal as most of the media is, the fact they are publishing these polls showing Obama's dropping approval in these issues is very telling.

Very telling.  I'd guess that his actual approval ratings have hit a new all-time low, so they're on high alert to mobilize. 

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« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2014, 04:11:37 pm »
The media has two conflicting items at the top of their agenda.

First - Protect Obama at all costs. They created him, they worship him, they are invested. They won't tolerate Obama's policies and performance being blamed on Obama.

Second - Since things aren't going well, as a result of Obama's policies, they need to decouple the Democrat party from Obama. This must be done to make Hillary the next president.

Poor media vermin must be beside themselves.