Eric Cantor Loses Primary to David Brat; Post-Election Analysis

[truth_seeker]

Do not be surprised to find the democrats see an opportunity, recruit a big name candidate, get him/her lotsa money, and give Brat a good contest.

Last time in 2012, Cantor got 58% (his worst in 7 terms) versus the dem's 41%. My scenario is very plausible.

[mountaineer]

"It is Tea Party conservatism that best matches Jewish tradition. When it comes right down to it tradition tells us those principals such as limited government, individual responsibility, and traditional morals are all Jewish principals."

Jeff Dunetz: To The Liberals Blaming Eric Cantor's Loss On Tea Party Anti-Semitism
As an observant Jew I can respond that my affiliation with the Tea Party is precisely because I am Jewish.
Truth Revolt

Almost immediately after Eric Cantor's loss on Tuesday, Twitter was bombarded by liberals who argued the reason for Cantor's loss in the GOP primary was the Tea Party's hatred of the Majority Leader's Jewish faith. Soon after the mainstream media joined in with the narrative as reported by Caleb Howe in another report at TruthRevolt. That narrative can only be described as Horse Sh*t! As an observant Jew I can respond that my affiliation with the Tea Party is precisely because I am Jewish. Tea Party principals, such as limited government, individual responsibility and traditional morals, are all deeply rooted in Jewish tradition. Even the fact that America’s founders intended for the county to be led by people who based their political decisions on religious values (something that scares the heck out of most liberal Jews) complements Jewish tradition.

The creation narrative in Genesis explains that man was created in God’s image. But we were also taught that our maker has no bodily form, so how can that be? The Bible is not teaching us that we are all dead ringers for "big guy upstairs" (if that were the case the pictures on everyone’s drivers licenses would look the same, no one would be able to get a check cashed, and CSI would be a very boring TV show).

Created in God’s image is supposed to teach us that just as God acts as a free being without prior restraint to do right and wrong, so does man. God performs good deeds as a matter of his own free choice, and because we are created in his image, so can man. The Rabbis teach us that only through free choice, can man truly be in the image of God. It is further understood that for man to have true free choice, he must not only have inner free will but have it in an environment in which a choice between obedience and disobedience exists. God thus created the world such that both good and evil can operate freely; this is what the Rabbis mean when they said, “All is in the hands of Heaven except the fear of Heaven” (Talmud, Berachot 33b).  God controls all the options we have, but it is up to man to choose between the correct or incorrect option, or to put it a different way, free will is the divine version of limited government. God picks the winning direction, but does not pick winners and losers.

Because we all are created in God’s image, Jews believe that ”all men are created equal,” meaning that we all have the same ability to be infinitely good or wicked, to be the best we can be based on the talent God gave us, and to forge a relationship with God regardless of intellectual capability, social background, physical strength, etc. Created equal does not mean, as the liberals ascribe to, that when it comes to talents, predilections, or natural abilities we are all equal. Nor does it mean we all should have the same big screen TV, healthcare, ice cream toppings, or savings account balance. ...

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[Machiavelli]

Do not be surprised to find the democrats see an opportunity, recruit a big name candidate, get him/her lotsa money, and give Brat a good contest.

Don't they already have a candidate?: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,140469

[Carling]

Do not be surprised to find the democrats see an opportunity, recruit a big name candidate, get him/her lotsa money, and give Brat a good contest.

Last time in 2012, Cantor got 58% (his worst in 7 terms) versus the dem's 41%. My scenario is very plausible.

The Dems already had their primary, and their candidate is on the ballot. 

[Machiavelli]

The Dems already had their primary, and their candidate is on the ballot.

Jack Trammell

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/meet-jack-trammell-the-democrat-who-will-face-david-brat-the-man-who-beat-eric-cantor/2014/06/10/df00f972-f10a-11e3-914c-1fbd0614e2d4_story.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Trammell

[DCPatriot]

Sorry, but my cynicism is red-lining here.......


1) This was an "open" primary...which means that you could have cross-overs.

2) Operation Chaos...albeit in reverse.

Only thing I can't come up with....without going too far down the rabbit hole....is their motive.

Cantor was working closely with Obama on more than one issue.

Is it really that the average American is fed up with Washington, DC and the erosion of our free markets and freedoms?

Or....is it tantamount to the neighborhood agitator swatting the hornet's nest at the Republican picnic?

[truth_seeker]

The Dems already had their primary, and their candidate is on the ballot.

And the dems have NEVER changed a candidate, when they saw an advantage and opportunity?

[Oceander]

"It is Tea Party conservatism that best matches Jewish tradition. When it comes right down to it tradition tells us those principals such as limited government, individual responsibility, and traditional morals are all Jewish principals."

Jeff Dunetz: To The Liberals Blaming Eric Cantor's Loss On Tea Party Anti-Semitism
As an observant Jew I can respond that my affiliation with the Tea Party is precisely because I am Jewish.
Truth Revolt

Almost immediately after Eric Cantor's loss on Tuesday, Twitter was bombarded by liberals who argued the reason for Cantor's loss in the GOP primary was the Tea Party's hatred of the Majority Leader's Jewish faith. Soon after the mainstream media joined in with the narrative as reported by Caleb Howe in another report at TruthRevolt. That narrative can only be described as Horse Sh*t! As an observant Jew I can respond that my affiliation with the Tea Party is precisely because I am Jewish. Tea Party principals, such as limited government, individual responsibility and traditional morals, are all deeply rooted in Jewish tradition. Even the fact that America’s founders intended for the county to be led by people who based their political decisions on religious values (something that scares the heck out of most liberal Jews) complements Jewish tradition.

The creation narrative in Genesis explains that man was created in God’s image. But we were also taught that our maker has no bodily form, so how can that be? The Bible is not teaching us that we are all dead ringers for "big guy upstairs" (if that were the case the pictures on everyone’s drivers licenses would look the same, no one would be able to get a check cashed, and CSI would be a very boring TV show).

Created in God’s image is supposed to teach us that just as God acts as a free being without prior restraint to do right and wrong, so does man. God performs good deeds as a matter of his own free choice, and because we are created in his image, so can man. The Rabbis teach us that only through free choice, can man truly be in the image of God. It is further understood that for man to have true free choice, he must not only have inner free will but have it in an environment in which a choice between obedience and disobedience exists. God thus created the world such that both good and evil can operate freely; this is what the Rabbis mean when they said, “All is in the hands of Heaven except the fear of Heaven” (Talmud, Berachot 33b).  God controls all the options we have, but it is up to man to choose between the correct or incorrect option, or to put it a different way, free will is the divine version of limited government. God picks the winning direction, but does not pick winners and losers.

Because we all are created in God’s image, Jews believe that ”all men are created equal,” meaning that we all have the same ability to be infinitely good or wicked, to be the best we can be based on the talent God gave us, and to forge a relationship with God regardless of intellectual capability, social background, physical strength, etc. Created equal does not mean, as the liberals ascribe to, that when it comes to talents, predilections, or natural abilities we are all equal. Nor does it mean we all should have the same big screen TV, healthcare, ice cream toppings, or savings account balance. ...

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That's pretty powerful.

[evadR]

Sorry, but my cynicism is red-lining here.......


1) This was an "open" primary...which means that you could have cross-overs.

2) Operation Chaos...albeit in reverse.

Only thing I can't come up with....without going too far down the rabbit hole....is their motive.

Cantor was working closely with Obama on more than one issue.

Is it really that the average American is fed up with Washington, DC and the erosion of our free markets and freedoms?

Or....is it tantamount to the neighborhood agitator swatting the hornet's nest at the Republican picnic?

According to a high profile talk radio host, there was a super high turnout that didn't exist in 2012.
All the people who stayed at home in 2012 came out for this one.
How he knows this I do not know.
I only know that I am skeptical of everything I hear about this "miracle".

[evadR]

Looks like Cantor is taking the high road by resigning as Majority Leader.

[DCPatriot]

Looks like Cantor is taking the high road by resigning as Majority Leader.

If all this is being scripted and choreographed...then he/she is a political genius.   

When you have no media to be concerned with...anything is possible.

But genius nonetheless.

[evadR]

makes me wanna cry....almost. :)

Hey, if I work on that crying thing I could become speaker.

[Machiavelli]

http://www.mofopolitics.com/2014/05/02/lets-face-it-tea-party-patriots-jenny-beth-martin-is-a-fraud/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/tea-party-pacs-reap-money-for-midterms-but-spend-little-on-candidates/2014/04/26/0e52919a-cbd6-11e3-a75e-463587891b57_story.html

Here's two more, Sink:

INGRAHAM: National Tea Party Groups Didn’t Help Brat [VIDEO]

A Long Shot So Long, the Tea Party Took a Pass: David Brat Waged Solo Fight Against Eric Cantor

[speekinout]

According to a high profile talk radio host, there was a super high turnout that didn't exist in 2012.
All the people who stayed at home in 2012 came out for this one.
How he knows this I do not know.
I only know that I am skeptical of everything I hear about this "miracle".

And which host would that be? Anyway, he should have done a little more research. Here's just one excerpt -

While Republican primary turnout spiked by 28 percent over 2012, according to the State Board of Elections, Cantor received nearly 8,500 fewer votes this year than he did in the 2012 Republican primary, a drop that was larger than Brat's 7,200-vote margin of victory. Regardless of how many Democrats turned out to oppose Cantor, he still would have prevailed had he maintained the same level of support as in his 2012 landslide.

So a lot of Cantor's former supporters didn't vote for him. That wasn't a good trend. You can't blame dim crossover votes for the loss.

[aligncare]

Neither you nor I are in a position to provide and debate specific, precise details.  (Unless of course, you are a public administrator, civil engineer, physical security expert, etc.  I am not.)  The discussion is a discussion of principles.  So if you are looking for "specific, precise details" you need to ask elsewhere.

The answer that is appropriate for this type of discussion is pretty basic.  What do we do to protect any plot of land of value that is subject to attack?

We enclose it with a fence/barrier of sufficient dimensions and durability to sustain the attempts at illegal penetration.  Additionally, human/electronic guardians are also established, as required.

Does the cost to develop and maintain a perimeter security barrier increase with the scale?  Certainly.  However, harkening back to the principle being discussed, if a nation state can not find the means to pay for the requisite security barrier, then the nation state will cease to exist.  For the United States, if the answer is that we can not afford to develop and maintain this core function of national government from within our $3+ Trillion federal budget, then we deserve exactly what we are seeing happen.  (Obviously the real world answer to that is that we certainly can afford it, the reason that we don't have it is because those that control the functional and spending priorities of the federal government don't want it!!)

 

Good answer. Especially that last section in parenthesis. Establishment Republicans want to feed their corporate masters, and liberal socialists want the power and control that comes with the ready-made third-world voting block.

[R4 TrumPence]

About Lindsey....

He ran all positive commercials, mostly about himself. While they were on every station here, at what seemed like 24/7, they were well done.   He started around Christmas I think??  Anyway, you had no clue who all was running against him until the past 3 weeks. They were mostly neg ads touting them as better than Graham.  But what I think is that all the LIVs watched all the feel good commercials and voted for him... We also have open primaries here too.

[aligncare]

Grahamnesty got what? 57% of the republican vote? The other virtual unknowns got 43% of the Republican vote. What does that say about the incumbent's strength? That he's weak, that's what.

[Oceander]

Grahamnesty got what? 57% of the republican vote? The other virtual unknowns got 43% of the Republican vote. What does that say about the incumbent's strength? That he's weak, that's what.

Obama got just barely enough votes more than Romney; does that mean that he's weak?  He had it going pretty strong after 2012, until he started throwing it all away with his blunders in Syria, etc.

[evadR]

"And which host would that be? Anyway, he should have done a little more research. Here's just one excerpt"

Rush

[speekinout]

"And which host would that be? Anyway, he should have done a little more research. Here's just one excerpt"

Rush

I'm not surprised. He used to be the one to listen to for facts, but in recent years he's been more than happy to opine whether he has the facts or not. I gave up after I started spending more time fact checking his statements than listening to his chatter.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Boehner Treats Cantor Ouster As Though Cantor Is Dying
Truth Revolt
 

Somebody lost their job and his friend feels sad for him.

[Carling]

Dave Brat totally crapped the bed tonight with Chuck Todd.   

“Where are you on the minimum wage?” Todd began, starting off with a question right in this economics expert’s wheelhouse.

Brat railed against unspecific distorting effects on the market before he was prompted to say whether or not he thought a minimum wage should even exist? “I don’t have a well-crafted response on that one,” Brat replied.

…Okay. So, how about foreign policy?

“Would you be in favor of arming the Syrian rebels?” Todd asked.

“Hey, Chuck, I thought we were just going to chat today about the celebratory aspect,” Brat replied. “I’d love to go through all this, but my mind is just, uh, I didn’t get much sleep.”

“I love the policy questions, I’m happy to do more, but I just wanted to talk about the victory here,” he continued

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[GourmetDan]

Dave Brat totally crapped the bed tonight with Chuck Todd.

This is how the media manipulates perception.

Had Cantor won, you can bet they would have just 'chatted on the celebratory aspect of the win' instead of starting the 'candidate destruction' phase right away.

Conservatives shouldn't give interviews unless they know they will be treated fairly, which pretty much leaves out the msm...

[katzenjammer]

This is how the media manipulates perception.

Had Cantor won, you can bet they would have just 'chatted on the celebratory aspect of the win' instead of starting the 'candidate destruction' phase right away.

Conservatives shouldn't give interviews unless they know they will be treated fairly, which pretty much leaves out the msm...

I saw the interview live, it was on Todd's morning show.  To me, it looked and sounded like Brat was truly shocked at the detailed policy questions.
Having heard him the evening before, it was like two different guys.  Although, on election eve he was talking "principles" with friendly hosts.  I actually did think that he was probably sleep deprived and it was probably good that he begged off on the questions, he just could have done it a bit more smoothly....

[GourmetDan]

I saw the interview live, it was on Todd's morning show.  To me, it looked and sounded like Brat was truly shocked at the detailed policy questions.
Having heard him the evening before, it was like two different guys.  Although, on election eve he was talking "principles" with friendly hosts.  I actually did think that he was probably sleep deprived and it was probably good that he begged off on the questions, he just could have done it a bit more smoothly....

Well, my point is that Todd would not have immediately launched into policy discussions had he been interviewing Cantor after a primary victory.

It's a tactic the media uses to portray candidates they don't like in the most negative way possible...