Howard Dean: Republicans Should Leave America

[Bigun]

If they ever do start shooting, they had better understand that we conservatives, among the citizenry have pretty much all of the guns, no matter how loath we are to ever use them in anger. And by and large, we are.

No sane person wants that.

But the Left continues to push and poke and prod and provoke, hoping that one of us does something stupid, giving their precious Progressive State the pretext it needs to bring the hammer down on all of us. When the Social Security Administration, the Environmental Protection Agency, the Department of Education, the Department of Health and Human Services, the Internal Revenue Service, and the US Postal Service are buying guns and ammunition, you'd better know they've got something nasty planned for the rest of us.

In the meantime, they focus on other political goals - like making government dependents out of as many Americans as possible, and fomenting envy and resentment to keep the social cauldron bubbling.   

I'm moving. I don't know where yet. Maybe Texas. Maybe Belize. But I know that what's coming, and it's not anywhere I want my family to be around.

The problem with that is if we loose America NOWHERE on this planet will be safe!

[rangerrebew]

Ah, a true example of liberal tolerance.  But he had to go one up on de Blasio and Cuomo. :odrama:

[Relic]

What you describe is what I believe America will be like in five years or less.

I think you're right. I notice the infrastructure failing, and realize it's lack of money. The street system is where it starts, and moves from there.

[Lando Lincoln]

Mr. Dean... let's divide the nation along the Mississippi.  People who identify themselves as liberals on one side and conservatives on the other.  You pick.  Let's see where we are in a generation.  Two generations.

[DCPatriot]

Ah, a true example of liberal tolerance.  But he had to go one up on de Blasio and Cuomo. :odrama:

Just the fact they're considering Alan Grayson for the Benghazi panel should tell us they're really trying to get a lone wolf to do "something" so that they can begin confiscations.

I truly believe with all my heart that the ruling class LEFT has decided that the time is "now" to begin that 25 million casualty count Dorn and Ayers spoke about.

They're looking for an excuse.

It's why my strategy would be to take on the MSM.  That's the front where public opposition should begin.  That's the enemy. 

[Relic]

It's why my strategy would be to take on the MSM.  That's the front where public opposition should begin.  That's the enemy.

The msm is the immediate enemy. Colleges are secondary, but essential collaborators with the msm.

I view msm members in the same light as I view crack dealers. Disgusting, vile forms of life that deserve nothing but scorn and derision.

[DCPatriot]

The msm is the immediate enemy. Colleges are secondary, but essential collaborators with the msm.

I view msm members in the same light as I view crack dealers. Disgusting, vile forms of life that deserve nothing but scorn and derision.

One must consider that probably the vast majority stay in line out of self-preservation for themselves and their families economic well-being.

it's the Boards of Directors...it's the liaisons that visit the White House, or attend off-site meetings in order to avoid visitor logs, etc..

Then of course, there's the government employee union leadership.....

[Oceander]

Fascists are always ugly up close.

[Fishrrman]

Andy wrote above:
[[ The Left is becoming increasingly brazen in its efforts to delegitimize its conservative opposition, frequently by means of ridicule, insult, and fear-mongering.
And given the instincts and actions of the currernt Administration, outright repression is no longer unthinkable. ]]

Conservative and white?
You're the NEW JEW.

It's sumthin' akin to being in Germany in 1934.

All the left needs is the right moment, and then....
.... a modern-day Kristallnacht.

[Lando Lincoln]

Andy wrote above:
[[ The Left is becoming increasingly brazen in its efforts to delegitimize its conservative opposition, frequently by means of ridicule, insult, and fear-mongering.
And given the instincts and actions of the currernt Administration, outright repression is no longer unthinkable. ]]

Conservative and white?
You're the NEW JEW.

It's sumthin' akin to being in Germany in 1934.

All the left needs is the right moment, and then....
.... a modern-day Kristallnacht.

Yes.  I most reluctantly... agree.

[Fishrrman]

Andy wrote:
[[ If they ever do start shooting, they had better understand that we conservatives, among the citizenry have pretty much all of the guns, no matter how loath we are to ever use them in anger. And by and large, we are.
No sane person wants that.
But the Left continues to push and poke and prod and provoke, hoping that one of us does something stupid, giving their precious Progressive State the pretext it needs to bring the hammer down on all of us. When the Social Security Administration, the Environmental Protection Agency, the Department of Education, the Department of Health and Human Services, the Internal Revenue Service, and the US Postal Service are buying guns and ammunition, you'd better know they've got something nasty planned for the rest of us. ]]

You're a thoughtful person and one of the best writers here, but I sense that you know deep down as well as do I, that at some point "shooting" may become the ONLY way by which to restore America to what it used to be. I realize this is something you can't really "say in public" and retain your credibility, however. I don't have any credibility, so I can say what I wish.

I simply don't know when that point will be. Whether it's yet to come, is at-hand, or has even passed by already.

Even if there is shooting, and even if our side is able to persevere and win, when all is said and done there won't be "one America" any longer, but perhaps several smaller nations instead. There are some parts of the country that are now cancerous to the republican form of government as laid out by The Founders. Like grangrenous limbs, these areas probably can't be "saved", and the only way for the rest of the patient to survive is by amputation.

I can foresee our future if the shootin' -doesn't- start:
An police state run jointly by leftist elites and bureaucrats, beyond socialistic, as close-as-it-gets to Marxism without really -being- Marxism. A level of control over the individual that would make George Orwell smile.

In talking with a few friends, there is a consensus -- as old guys, at least we had the opportunity to enjoy our youths and at least some of our adulthood in "the old America" that was -- not the crumbling colossus that is mestastasizing into something that will leave future historians scratching their heads, wondering how we could have done this to ourselves...

[DCPatriot]

You're a thoughtful person and one of the best writers here, but I sense that you know deep down as well as do I, that at some point "shooting" may become the ONLY way by which to restore America to what it used to be. I realize this is something you can't really "say in public" and retain your credibility, however. I don't have any credibility, so I can say what I wish.

I simply don't know when that point will be. Whether it's yet to come, is at-hand, or has even passed by already.

Even if there is shooting, and even if our side is able to persevere and win, when all is said and done there won't be "one America" any longer, but perhaps several smaller nations instead. There are some parts of the country that are now cancerous to the republican form of government as laid out by The Founders. Like grangrenous limbs, these areas probably can't be "saved", and the only way for the rest of the patient to survive is by amputation.

I can foresee our future if the shootin' -doesn't- start:
An police state run jointly by leftist elites and bureaucrats, beyond socialistic, as close-as-it-gets to Marxism without really -being- Marxism. A level of control over the individual that would make George Orwell smile.

In talking with a few friends, there is a consensus -- as old guys, at least we had the opportunity to enjoy our youths and at least some of our adulthood in "the old America" that was -- not the crumbling colossus that is mestastasizing into something that will leave future historians scratching their heads, wondering how we could have done this to ourselves...

Two words:  Political Correctness!

[Bigun]

Two words:  Political Correctness!

  and 

[Lando Lincoln]

I categorically reject...

political correctness.

Relatives have published PC bullshit of Facebook and I have been right in their face.

[Carling]

It's not just Howie "The Scream" Dean who's been speaking in this manner of late.
 
The Left is becoming increasingly brazen in its efforts to delegitimize its conservative opposition, frequently by means of ridicule, insult, and fear-mongering.
 
And given the instincts and actions of the currernt Administration, outright repression is no longer unthinkable.

They are desperate, and their voting base is either low-income idiots or high-dollar cronies.  I find the increase in their rhetoric comforting, because when it comes down to it, their inner city voters will turn on each other before they even think about branching outward.

[musiclady]

They are desperate, and their voting base is either low-income idiots or high-dollar cronies.  I find the increase in their rhetoric comforting, because when it comes down to it, their inner city voters will turn on each other before they even think about branching outward.

I agree that they are desperate and lashing out.  It's coming out everywhere. 

Look at the ridiculous rhetoric regarding 'climate change.'  The left might as well have signs on them that say "The End of the World is Near."

I wish that every US citizen knew that Howard Dean, representative of the Democrat Party, was calling for half the country to leave.

It might open some eyes as to how desperate they have really become.

[alicewonders]

I agree that they are desperate and lashing out.  It's coming out everywhere. 

Look at the ridiculous rhetoric regarding 'climate change.'  The left might as well have signs on them that say "The End of the World is Near."

I wish that every US citizen knew that Howard Dean, representative of the Democrat Party, was calling for half the country to leave.

It might open some eyes as to how desperate they have really become.

Sad to say, half of the country would probably agree with him. 

[Bigun]

Sad to say, half of the country would probably agree with him.

Yeah but if we did leave they would be begging us to come back in under 24 hours!

[alicewonders]

Yeah but if we did leave they would be begging us to come back in under 24 hours!

Excellent point!

[massadvj]

Yeah but if we did leave they would be begging us to come back in under 24 hours!

I think it would take a little longer than 24 hours.  Even they couldn't spend all of our assets that quickly, not that they wouldn't try.

[Bigun]

I think it would take a little longer than 24 hours.  Even they couldn't spend all of our assets that quickly, not that they wouldn't try.

Wouldn't need to! All that would need to happen is for their Obama phone not to ring or the shelves at the grocery store begin to go bare and it would begin.

[EC]

Maybe a Howard Dean appreciation day would be in order - where no conservative or Republican went to work. Businesses would not open. Trucks would not move. Crops would not be picked.

Could be amusing, but is unlikely to happen.

[Bigun]

Maybe a Howard Dean appreciation day would be in order - where no conservative or Republican went to work. Businesses would not open. Trucks would not move. Crops would not be picked.

Could be amusing, but is unlikely to happen.

You're right!

That ain't gonna happen! At least right now but it very well might in the near future.

[olde north church]

How did Rhodesia become Zimbabwe?  The plan has always been the same.  Malcontents are stirred, the lawful wait too long to shoot.
We don't hear much about the confiscations of private land in South Africa.  Or the murders of farmers.  Or the raping of farmers.
We understand that for evil to succeed, good men do nothing.  Good men have been doing too nothing for much too long.

[markswife]

If they kick Republican out of America, who will work and pay taxes?