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Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #775 on: March 24, 2014, 01:34:05 pm »
http://news.yahoo.com/malaysia-pm-press-briefing-missing-plane-1400-gmt-125651364--sector.html


KUALA LUMPUR (Reuters) - Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak will hold a press conference at 10.00 pm (1400 GMT) on new developments on the missing Malaysia Airlines plane, the Star newspaper said on Monday citing a government official.

No other details were given.

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Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #777 on: March 24, 2014, 01:48:10 pm »
Malaysia Airlines summon relatives of flight MH370 passengers for emergency meeting ahead of press conference set to reveal ‘new developments


Relatives of passengers on the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 have been called to an emergency meeting in Beijing, it has been claimed.


Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak meanwhile has also announced he was due to hold a press conference at 2pm on the latest developments in the search for the missing plane.


According to Sky News, the families of the passengers on the missing plane are also due to be booked on to flights to take them to Australia.


Both of the announcements were made as an Australian navy ship was on its way today to retrieve two new objects spotted by military aircraft in the search for the missing Malaysia Airlines jet.

HMAS Success was expected to reach the two objects by tomorrow morning at the latest, Malaysia's government said, as a mounting number of sightings of floating objects raised hopes wreckage of the plane may soon be found.

So far, ships in the international search effort have been unable to locate several 'suspicious' objects spotted by satellites in grainy images or by fast-flying aircraft over a vast search area in the remote southern Indian Ocean.

'HMAS Success is on scene and is attempting to locate and recover these objects,' Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott, who called his Malaysia counterpart Najib Razak to inform him of the sighting, said in a statement to parliament.

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Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #778 on: March 24, 2014, 01:56:10 pm »
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RT "@bbc5live BBC learns Malaysia Airlines tells MH370 families that 'beyond any reasonable doubt MH370 has been lost'"



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You read that right... Malaysian Airlines sent the families a TEXT message about the plane being presumed lost in the Indian Ocean.. A TEXT
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« Reply #779 on: March 24, 2014, 01:58:39 pm »
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RT "@bbc5live BBC learns Malaysia Airlines tells MH370 families that 'beyond any reasonable doubt MH370 has been lost'"



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You read that right... Malaysian Airlines sent the families a TEXT message about the plane being presumed lost in the Indian Ocean.. A TEXT

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Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #780 on: March 24, 2014, 02:00:41 pm »
The Malaysian Prime Minister just informed the public the plane has crashed in the Indian Ocean. On Fox now.
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Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #781 on: March 24, 2014, 02:04:27 pm »
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Malaysian PM says new satellite data shows: "Flight MH370 ended in the Southern Indian Ocean", far from any possible landing sites




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BREAKING: Malaysia prime minister says new data show missing plane plunged into southern Indian Ocean.
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Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #782 on: March 24, 2014, 02:06:33 pm »
Telegraph:


14.00 BREAKING: The Malaysian prime minister is speaking. He says from new analysis of satellite data, investigators have concluded that MH370 "flew along the southern corridor and that its last position was in the middle of the Indian Ocean west of Perth. This is a remote location, far from any possible landing sites. It is therefore with deep sadness and regret that I must inform you that according to this new data, flight MH370 ended in the southern Indian Ocean."


Najib Razak says Malaysian authorities will be holding a press conference tomorrow, and that the airline has already informed the families of passengers and crew of these developments. "I know this news must be hardest of all," says.
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« Reply #783 on: March 24, 2014, 02:10:04 pm »
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14.00 BREAKING: The Malaysian prime minister is speaking. He says from new analysis of satellite data, investigators have concluded that MH370 "flew along the southern corridor and that its last position was in the middle of the Indian Ocean west of Perth. This is a remote location, far from any possible landing sites. It is therefore with deep sadness and regret that I must inform you that according to this new data, flight MH370 ended in the southern Indian Ocean."


Najib Razak says Malaysian authorities will be holding a press conference tomorrow, and that the airline has already informed the families of passengers and crew of these developments. "I know this news must be hardest of all," says.

Until tomorrow when someone sees a gum wrapper in another ocean. This is so sad for the families. They must know the airlines and authorities are making stuff up as they go along.
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« Reply #784 on: March 24, 2014, 02:21:14 pm »
More from the Telegraph (U.K.):
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14.09   Here is the full statement from Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak on investigators' conclusion that MH370 ended in the southern Indian Ocean and that no one on board survived:

This evening I was briefed by representatives from the UK Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB). They informed me that Inmarsat, the UK company that provided the satellite data which indicated the northern and southern corridors, has been performing further calculations on the data. Using a type of analysis never before used in an investigation of this sort, they have been able to shed more light on MH370’s flight path.

Based on their new analysis, Inmarsat and the AAIB have concluded that MH370 flew along the southern corridor, and that its last position was in the middle of the Indian Ocean, west of Perth.

This is a remote location, far from any possible landing sites. It is therefore with deep sadness and regret that I must inform you that, according to this new data, flight MH370 ended in the southern Indian Ocean.

We will be holding a press conference tomorrow with further details. In the meantime, we wanted to inform you of this new development at the earliest opportunity. We share this information out of a commitment to openness and respect for the families, two principles which have guided this investigation.

Malaysia Airlines have already spoken to the families of the passengers and crew to inform them of this development. For them, the past few weeks have been heartbreaking; I know this news must be harder still. I urge the media to respect their privacy, and to allow them the space they need at this difficult time.
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Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #785 on: March 24, 2014, 03:27:37 pm »
As the where and when become clearer the focus can shift to the how and why. Hope at some point they are able to recover the black box

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« Reply #786 on: March 24, 2014, 03:33:52 pm »
that general who was on FOX saying it landed in Pakistan may be a bit upset by this news


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Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #787 on: March 24, 2014, 03:37:13 pm »
CNN may be upset by this news, the plane didn't go into a black hole   :smokin:
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Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #788 on: March 24, 2014, 03:38:27 pm »
Until tomorrow when someone sees a gum wrapper in another ocean. This is so sad for the families. They must know the airlines and authorities are making stuff up as they go along.

What would you do? 
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« Reply #789 on: March 24, 2014, 03:40:00 pm »
that general who was on FOX saying it landed in Pakistan may be a bit upset by this news

McInerny loses major credibility by crawling out on the limb that the plane landed in Pakistan.  I don't know how he recovers from this as any kind of analyst.
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« Reply #790 on: March 24, 2014, 03:45:37 pm »
McInerny loses major credibility by crawling out on the limb that the plane landed in Pakistan.  I don't know how he recovers from this as any kind of analyst.
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Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #791 on: March 24, 2014, 03:53:46 pm »
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MH370 WAS carrying highly flammable lithium batteries admits CEO of Malaysian Airlines | Mail Online
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2586308/Missing-jet-WAS-carrying-highly-flammable-lithium-batteries-CEO-Malaysian-Airlines-finally-admits-dangerous-cargo.html

The smoke on the plane theory will probably be used to provide closure and end this speculation.
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« Reply #792 on: March 24, 2014, 03:59:15 pm »
The smoke on the plane theory will probably be used to provide closure and end this speculation.

Show of hands! How many think that the plane could have continued to fly for even one hour, much less 6 or 7, if there had been a major fire in the cargo hold regardless of what caused that fire?
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Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #793 on: March 24, 2014, 04:40:47 pm »
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/03/24/malaysia-jet-search-races-against-weather-as-china-reports-new-object-sighting/


Malaysia PM says missing jetliner's flight ended in Indian Ocean


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« Reply #794 on: March 24, 2014, 04:41:04 pm »
Show of hands! How many think that the plane could have continued to fly for even one hour, much less 6 or 7, if there had been a major fire in the cargo hold regardless of what caused that fire?

I don't know, brother. 777's are pretty tough (don't forget, they are the civil version of a refueling tanker) and autopilots can do most everything but make a decent cup of coffee. If the batteries go out, you still have the gennies on engines 1 and 3, load balanced, the majority of the fly by wire system is safe in the roof of the cabin and at 35,000 feet, no fire is going to last for long.

I'd not call it impossible.
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« Reply #795 on: March 24, 2014, 04:53:57 pm »
I don't know, brother. 777's are pretty tough (don't forget, they are the civil version of a refueling tanker) and autopilots can do most everything but make a decent cup of coffee. If the batteries go out, you still have the gennies on engines 1 and 3, load balanced, the majority of the fly by wire system is safe in the roof of the cabin and at 35,000 feet, no fire is going to last for long.

I'd not call it impossible.

Nothing is impossible but that scenario is HIGHLY unlikely! If and when they find the cockpit voice recorder we will know if anything like that happened because it will be an endless blank tape.
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« Reply #796 on: March 24, 2014, 05:01:21 pm »
Talked to a nephew who's a commercial pilot, and he figured this was the most likely scenario.

Lots of blank spaces in the Indian Ocean from a communication perspective.

He figured that was why it took so long to figure things out.
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« Reply #797 on: March 24, 2014, 05:38:32 pm »
Show of hands! How many think that the plane could have continued to fly for even one hour, much less 6 or 7, if there had been a major fire in the cargo hold regardless of what caused that fire?

Based on this video, I possibly could see it going something like this:
Lithium batteries ignite releasing a LOT of toxic smoke in the cabin, incapacitating the passengers and crew (see prior theory about shutting down systems to isolate the fire). That one little battery in the video produces a massive amount of toxic smoke before you ever see a single flame. Imagine hundreds of those things. Once the batteries start actually burning versus releasing smoke, the fire suppression system kicks in putting out the fire before it damages the vital structure but not soon enough to have prevented killing or incapacitating the crew. The plane continues to fly on with auto pilot. Radio damage may have happened early in the fire which is why there wasn't a call out after the fact.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhDnHx6umCg

This still leaves a lot of open questions we may never know or find out much later if the black box is found.
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« Reply #798 on: March 24, 2014, 05:43:51 pm »
Toxicity of the smoke- http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002805.htm

This is based on a 'button' battery (Lithium one of those listed). 


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« Reply #799 on: March 24, 2014, 06:31:14 pm »
It is global warming/Climate Changes fault! Are they really this stupid?

One Reason It May Be Harder to Find Flight 370: We Messed Up the Currents | Mother Jones
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