Author Topic: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China  (Read 72611 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Gazoo

  • Inactive Members
  • *****
  • Posts: 3,959
"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

Offline Rapunzel

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 71,613
  • Gender: Female
Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #101 on: March 09, 2014, 04:40:21 am »
http://www.nst.com.my/nation/general/font-color-red-missing-mh370-font-pilot-i-established-contact-with-plane-1.503464?cache=03%2F7.247954%2F7.266429%2F7.330034%2F7.425366%2F7.502513%2F7.502513%2F7.502513%2F7.502513%2F7.576448%2F7.576448

MISSING MH370: Pilot: I established contact with plane


0 comments   

'INTERFERENCE': Pilot in another plane was flying 30 minutes ahead of MH370

SEPANG: A BOEING 777 pilot, who was flying 30 minutes ahead of the missing Malaysia Airlines     aircraft, said he established contact with    MH370  minutes  after  he   was    asked to do so by  Vietnamese air traffic control.

The captain, who asked to not be named, said his plane, which was bound for Narita, Japan, was far into Vietnamese airspace when he was asked to relay, using his plane's emergency frequency, to MH370 for the latter to establish its position, as the authorities could not contact the aircraft.

"We managed to establish contact with MH370 just after 1.30am and asked them if they have transferred into Vietnamese airspace.

"The voice on the other side could have been either Captain Zaharie (Ahmad Shah, 53,) or Fariq (Abdul Hamid, 27), but I was sure it was the co-pilot.

"There were a lot of interference... static... but I heard mumbling from the other end.

"That was the last time we heard from them, as we lost the connection," he told the New Sunday Times.

He said those on the same frequency at the time would have heard the exchange.

This, he said, would include vessels on the waters below.

He said he thought nothing of it, as the occurrence (of losing contact) was normal, until it was established that MH370 never landed.

"If the plane was in trouble, we would have heard the pilot making the Mayday distress call. But I am sure that, like me, no one else up there heard it.

"Following the silence, a repeat request was made by the Vietnamese authorities to try establishing contact with them."

Meanwhile, Ritzeraynn Rashid, 55, remembers Captain Zaharie as a pleasant and humble man.

They used to fly together in the 1980s, when Zaharie was a co-pilot and he, the leading purser on the B737 services.

He was also close with Patrick Gomes, who was leading the cabin crew aboard MH370.

"Zaharie was always smiling and very cheerful. We shared a lot of good memories. We were like brothers.

"From 1980 to 1991, when I was working with MAS, there was never a day that we did not chat and catch up."

Ritzeraynn, who is now a public relations and communications manager, said Patrick was always looking out for his friends.

"I remember those days when I did not have a car. Patrick would offer his new Ford Laser for me to use.

"In reciprocation, when he has late-night flights and did not want to disturb his mother, I would invite him to my house to stay for the night."

Ritzeraynn, who, like Zaharie, was from Penang Free School, said the school's class of 1978/79 would pray for all those aboard the missing aircraft.

"All the crew members and passengers are in our thoughts and prayers. I miss Zaharie and Patrick very much."

For Fariq's brother, Afiq, the bond they had was beyond sharing a last name.

When updated news reached him that his brother, who is a first officer, was co-piloting MH370, his world shattered.

However, Afiq, 20, finds strength in his hope that Fariq, a Langkawi Aerospace Flying Academy graduate, is somewhere out there alive.

"This is just heartbreaking," was all Afiq could muster, telling the NST that he was grappling between thinking of the worst and keeping himself optimistic.

"I do not know what to tell you. I am not doing okay.

"Sorry, I cannot really think right now. My parents are very sad right now," he said in a text message.

Afiq described his brother, the eldest of five siblings, as a responsible and kind person who exuded warmth, which made him endearing to many.

The chemical engineering student, from Universiti Teknologi Petronas, had earlier tweeted: "Pray for my brother #MH370."

About 7pm, as news on MH370 remained vague, Afiq tweeted: "I'm coming to find you, even if it takes all night."

Their father, Abdul Hamid Md Daud, when met at his house in Shah Alam, asked that the family be given personal space.





�The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves.� G Washington July 2, 1776

Offline Lando Lincoln

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15,533
  • Gender: Male
Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #102 on: March 09, 2014, 04:41:28 am »
To what end would someone intentionally do this?  I am incapable of understanding it.
There are some among us who live in rooms of experience we can never enter.
John Steinbeck

Offline Rapunzel

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 71,613
  • Gender: Female
Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #103 on: March 09, 2014, 04:43:43 am »
To what end would someone intentionally do this?  I am incapable of understanding it.

I understand they are investigating or planning to investigate the ground crew who serviced the plane - if it was a bomb it could have been placed on the plane by someone on the ground and set to go off when the plane would be over water.
�The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves.� G Washington July 2, 1776

Oceander

  • Guest
Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #104 on: March 09, 2014, 04:45:25 am »
To what end would someone intentionally do this?  I am incapable of understanding it.

There are some dissident groups in China that are turning very violent.  There was just recently an attack in a Chinese city by knife-wielding terrorists who killed quite a few people.

Oceander

  • Guest
Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #105 on: March 09, 2014, 04:46:12 am »
JournoDannyAsia 1h

Passenger on Beijing/KL flight spots debris in sea today. 3rd of 3 pics. MH370 Malaysia Airlines @SCMP_News pic.twitter.com/2ThCgduKkJ







How sure are people that this is really debris from an aircraft?  From this aircraft?

Offline Rapunzel

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 71,613
  • Gender: Female
Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #106 on: March 09, 2014, 04:49:49 am »
How sure are people that this is really debris from an aircraft?  From this aircraft?

It's iffy.. it's off the search grid and some wonder if this this trash from Ho Chi Minh City (seriously!!!!!! is this how they get rid of their trash???)

and there is this more recent report..........

@BrendanScott 2h

RT @cjbrummitt: Vietnamese transport minister says no wreckage in vicinity of oil slicks spotted Saturday. Hunt for #MH370 goes on.
�The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves.� G Washington July 2, 1776

Offline Rapunzel

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 71,613
  • Gender: Female
Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #107 on: March 09, 2014, 04:52:32 am »
http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1443956/chinese-radar-expert-has-doubts-malaysian-airliner-simply-vanished


Chinese radar expert has doubts that Malaysian airliner simply 'vanished'

Radar technology is advanced enough to track an aircraft 'even after an explosion'

PUBLISHED : Sunday, 09 March, 2014, 6:02am
UPDATED : Sunday, 09 March, 2014, 6:02am


    Two further passenger identities are probed as search for missing Malaysia Airlines flight continues
    In full: Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 passenger list
    Five young children among missing Malaysia Airlines passengers as air search called off
    Boeing 777 at centre of Malaysia Airlines disappearance had clocked up 'normal' 20,000 hours' flying
    'By the Grace of God we missed our flight' on Malaysia Airlines plane, tweets traveller


l
The vanished Boeing 777 takes off from Paris' Charles de Gaulle airport in 2011. Photo: AP

Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 could not just "disappear", a Chinese military radar expert said yesterday, and asked whether Vietnamese authorities were withholding crucial information or if staff had "neglected their duty".

The aircraft, a Boeing 777-200ER, had reached cruising altitude of more than 10,000 metres when it vanished over the sea between Vietnam and Malaysia, Vietnamese air traffic controllers said.

"This is very strange," the expert said. "Radar technology today is so advanced, even a piece of debris just a metre or two long can be detected easily."

Vietnamese air traffic controllers should have been able to track precisely the whereabouts of the aircraft and reproduce its flight route, said the source, who declined to be named.

Even if the aircraft broke apart in an explosion, the cloud and trajectory of its debris would still leave a trace on a radar screen.

"The plane was flying at a very high altitude. The crew had lots of time to use the emergency radio frequency for help. I find it difficult to believe that the Vietnamese did not detect anything, although some staff might have neglected their duty or were not doing their job properly," he said.

The expert added that the area where the plane went missing was very busy and closely monitored by ground radar networks.

Some passengers might have survived a crash at sea, waiting for rescuers to arrive, the source said. "The rescue efforts have been unreasonably slow," he said. "If there were survivors, whether or not they lived was determined by the speed of the search and rescue operation."

In a meeting with the Malaysian chargé d'affaires to China, Bala Chandran Tharman, and Vietnamese ambassador to China Nguyen Van Tho, Deputy Foreign Minister Xie Hangsheng called on both countries to try their best with rescue work, and to inform the Chinese passengers' relatives about the latest developments.

Xinhua reported that both envoys said they planned to work closely with China and do their best to help facilitate a rescue.

If the plane's black box can be found, investigators should examine whether there was any delay in the rescue operations, according to the radar expert.

"Radars have no blind spot on the ocean. After an accident, radar data should provide a fairly accurate estimate on the plane's final location," he said.

"There has been very little transparency with the information. This is murder to survivors," he added.
This article appeared in the South China Morning Post print edition as Airliners don't just disappear, expert says
�The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves.� G Washington July 2, 1776

Offline Rapunzel

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 71,613
  • Gender: Female
Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #108 on: March 09, 2014, 04:55:12 am »
http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1443908/two-further-passenger-identities-probed-malaysia-airlines-flight-counter

Malaysia Airlines flight as 'counter terrorism unit mobilised'

Full flight manifest under investigation as four passenger identities considered suspicious

PUBLISHED : Saturday, 08 March, 2014, 11:56pm
UPDATED : Sunday, 09 March, 2014, 12:19pm

Malaysian authorities are investigating the identities of at least two other passengers on missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, in addition to two who were found to be using stolen passports, a security official said on Sunday.

Investigators were verifying the identities with the relevant embassies in Malaysia, said the official, who has knowledge of the investigation and declined to be identified. The passengers being checked had all bought their tickets through China Southern Airlines, the official said.

The entire flight manifest is now under investigation, said the Malaysian Transport Minister on Sunday, and international agencies and counter-terrorism units were said to be working with authorities.

The flight carrying 227 passengers and 12 crew was presumed to have crashed off the Vietnamese coast on Saturday, after losing contact with air traffic controllers off the eastern Malaysia coast.

The latest developent comes as Malaysia Airlines revealed it had called on the assistance of a disaster recovery management specialist from Atlanta, USA, as it resumed the desperate search for the missing flight on Sunday.

The company said that 'in fearing the worst', it had taken on the squad of experts to assist 'in this crucial time'.

On Saturday evening, it emerged that two tickets to the flight had been purchased using stolen passports.

As the clock ticked past the 24-hour mark and hopes of finding survivors diminished, authorities revealed that two people named on a list of passengers were not on the plane, and that both had had their passports stolen in Thailand.

The revelations came as Malaysia Airlines said a "Go team" had been sent to Beijing to assist frightened family members of the passengers.

Azaharudin Abdul Rahman, deputy chief of Malaysia's Civil Aviation Authority, said on Sunday morning that three aircraft searching the site had not yet located anything.

"We have expanded our areas operations," he added.

In a statement on Sunday morning, the airline said: "More than 24 hours after the lost of contact with Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370, the search and rescue teams are still unable to detect the whereabouts of the missing aircraft."

An international search and rescue mission from Malaysia, Singapore and Vietnam was mobilized on Saturday morning.

An earlier statement from the airline addressed the issue of worried relatives who had complained of little information from staff. "We are dispatching all information as and when we receive it. The situation in Beijing is also being monitored closely. As many families of passengers are in China, we have deployed our 'Go Team' to Beijing with a team of caregivers and volunteers to assist the family members of the passengers.

"Once the whereabouts of the aircraft is determined, Malaysia Airlines will fly members of the family to the location. Travel arrangements and expenses of immediate family members will be borne by Malaysia Airlines."

Chinese Premier Li Keqiang yesterday made an emergency call to Malaysian PM Najib Razak, pressing Malaysia to launch a full rescue effort. By last night an international rescue mission was under way.

The Philippines deployed three air force planes and three navy patrol ships. Singapore sent a C130 Hercules aircraft and Vietnam and Malaysia also dispatched aircraft and marine rescue vessels. The destroyer USS Pinckney was en route to southern Vietnam to help.

Two Chinese warships and one other naval vessel have been scrabled to the scene, according to Xinhua.

Foreign ministry officials in Rome and Vienna confirmed on Saturday night that the names of two nationals listed on the manifest of the flight matched those of passports reported stolen in Thailand.

Italian foreign ministry officials said that Luigi Maraldi, originally believed to have boarded the plane in Kuala Lumpur, was traveling in Thailand when the Beijing-bound flight took off at just after midnight on Friday.

He had reported his passport stolen last August, said a foreign ministry functionary, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Italian news agency ANSA says Maraldi called home after hearing reports that someone with his name was on the plane.

"He is alright, he is on vacation, on the beach," his mother told the Italian national TV broadcaster RAI.

Similarly, Austrian Foreign Ministry spokesman Martin Weiss confirmed that a name listed on the manifest matches an Austrian passport reported stolen two years ago in Phuket, Thailand. Weiss would not confirm the identity, although Britain's Daily Mirror website named him as Christian Kozel, aged 30.

Infographic - Malaysia Airlines flight MH370: Timeline and flight path of missing jet

The revelations will raise questions over security at Kuala Lumpur's airport, and how the stolen passports were able to be used by people other than their rightful owners.

At a press conference on Saturday evening an airline spokesman refused to rule out terrorism as a possible reason behind the very sudden disappearance of the flight.

Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak also refused to rule out a terrorist act.

China Southern, who jointly shared the route with Malaysian Airlines in what is termed in the industry a 'code share', said in a statement it had sold tickets to one Austrian and one Italian.

The airline confirmed it had sold seven tickets in all, including one to a Chinese passenger, one Dutch, 2 Ukranian and one Malaysian.

A total of 239 people were on board the flight when it vanished two hours after taking off from Kuala Lumpur. Twelve crew members and 227 passengers, aged two to 79 years, were named on a list of those on board released by the airline.

The Boeing 777-200ER gave air traffic controllers no indication of any problem before vanishing from radar screens.

An air search for survivors was called off on Saturday night and will resume at daylight.

Vietnamese officials said planes had spotted twin oil slicks in the sea and were sending boats to investigate.
�The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves.� G Washington July 2, 1776

Offline Rapunzel

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 71,613
  • Gender: Female
Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #109 on: March 09, 2014, 04:57:30 am »
http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1443524/lost-malaysia-airlines-plane-had-clocked-normal-20000-hours-flying-time


Boeing 777 at centre of Malaysia Airlines disappearance had clocked up 'normal' 20,000 hours' flying time

Disappearance shocks experts due to plane's safety record
PUBLISHED : Saturday, 08 March, 2014, 2:09pm
UPDATED : Sunday, 09 March, 2014, 12:07pm

The Boeing 777 is considered one of the safest aircraft in the skies, with barely a blemish on its 19-year safety record, a fact that has only deepened the mystery over the disappearance of a Malaysia Airlines jet.

The crash landing of an Asiana 777 in San Francisco in July last year was the first fatal incident involving the model; three of the 309 people on board died.

The Malaysia Airlines 777-200ER jet had been operating for 12 years and had logged 20,000 hours in the air, a record experts say is typical for a plane of that age.

The Post spoke to Hong Kong pilots with decades of experience behind them, all of whom were extremely surprised by yesterday’s events, especially given the model involved, and the reputation of the airline.

This aerial photo shows the wreckage of the Asiana Flight 214 airplane after it crashed at the San Francisco International Airport in San Francisco. Photo: AP

“The 777 is the safest airlines in the skies right now,” said one captain with more than two decades’ experience, adding that “it’s a remarkably safe and reliable aircraft”.

Malaysia Airlines has a strong reputation, the pilot added. Its fleet of planes would be well-maintained.

Before last year’s crash, the 1,000 777 jets in service worldwide had been involved in only one major incident. The came in January 2008, when a British Airways jet landed about 300 metres short of the at London’s Heathrow Airport.

Airlines like the plane because it is capable of flying extremely long distances thanks to two giant engines. Each engine is so massive that a row of at least five economy-class seats could fit inside it.

By having just two engines, the plane burns through less fuel than four-engine jets, like the Boeing 747, which it has essentially replaced.

The 777 was the first twin-engine plane to be immediately certified to fly over the ocean as far as 180 minutes from any emergency landing airport. Government safety regulators have determined that it could fly for nearly three hours on a single engine in the case of an emergency.

Such government approval has enabled airlines to fly routes such as New York to Hong Kong non-stop on the 777.

In addition to its ability to fly long distances and hold a large number of passengers, airlines like the 777 because they can fill its long belly with lots of profitable cargo.

According to data from CAPA Centre for Aviation, the average age of Malaysia Airlines’ 15 Boeing 777-200ER planes is 14.3 years.

The average age of its entire fleet of 93 aircraft is four-and-a-half years.

Malaysia Airlines did have an incident in August 2005 involving a 777 flying from Perth, Australia, to Kuala Lumpur. While flying 11,000 metres above the Indian Ocean, the plane’s software incorrectly measured speed and acceleration, causing it to suddenly ascend 900 metres.

The pilot disengaged the autopilot and descended and landed safely back in Perth. A software update was quickly made on planes around the world.

“We’re closely monitoring reports on Malaysia flight MH370,” Boeing said in a statement. “Our thoughts are with everyone on board.”
This article appeared in the South China Morning Post print edition as Boeing 777 is a jet renowned for safety, efficiency
�The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves.� G Washington July 2, 1776

Offline Rapunzel

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 71,613
  • Gender: Female
Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #110 on: March 09, 2014, 04:59:51 am »
@thomasfullerNYT 26m

Malaysia defense minister says FBI & other foreign agencies joining MH370 probe because of possible involvement of “international network”
�The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves.� G Washington July 2, 1776

Offline Gazoo

  • Inactive Members
  • *****
  • Posts: 3,959
Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #111 on: March 09, 2014, 05:01:59 am »
Quote
Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 could not just "disappear", a Chinese military radar expert said yesterday, and asked whether Vietnamese authorities were withholding crucial information or if staff had "neglected their duty".

Something is off.
"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

Offline Rapunzel

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 71,613
  • Gender: Female
Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #112 on: March 09, 2014, 05:03:52 am »
Something is off.

Yes........ what was going on when the Vietnamese could not raise them and asked the passing pilot to make contact and the pilot got a weird connection.
�The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves.� G Washington July 2, 1776

Offline Rapunzel

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 71,613
  • Gender: Female
Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #113 on: March 09, 2014, 05:08:30 am »
Interesting coincidence???  Two of the other China Southern Airlines tickets were sold to Ukrainians …
�The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves.� G Washington July 2, 1776

Offline Rapunzel

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 71,613
  • Gender: Female
Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #114 on: March 09, 2014, 05:14:04 am »
“Captain Zaharie (Ahmad Shah, 53,) or Fariq (Abdul Hamid, 27)”

Isn't 27 really young to be a co-pilot on a tripple 7?

BTW 

Fariq’s brother, Afiq is a chemical engineering student, from Universiti Teknologi
Petronas….
�The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves.� G Washington July 2, 1776

Offline Gazoo

  • Inactive Members
  • *****
  • Posts: 3,959
Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #115 on: March 09, 2014, 05:15:44 am »
4 with stolen passports. 'international network'

LIVE: Terrorism fears mount in Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 probe | Asian Correspondent
http://asiancorrespondent.com/120373/live-search-continues-for-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370/
"The Tea Party has a right to feel cheated.

When does the Republican Party, put in the majority by the Tea Party, plan to honor its commitment to halt the growth of the Federal monolith and bring the budget back into balance"?

Offline Rapunzel

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 71,613
  • Gender: Female
Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #116 on: March 09, 2014, 05:15:59 am »
Latest press conference starting -

here is the link

http://english.astroawani.com/videos/live
« Last Edit: March 09, 2014, 05:19:23 am by Rapunzel »
�The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves.� G Washington July 2, 1776

Offline Rapunzel

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 71,613
  • Gender: Female
Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #117 on: March 09, 2014, 05:22:00 am »
http://english.astroawani.com/news/show/plane-may-have-made-air-turn-back-counter-terrorism-units-activated-31527

Plane may have made 'air turn back', counter terrorism units activated
 Astro Awani | Updated: March 09, 2014

KUALA LUMPUR: Acting Transport Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein in a press conference at 11.30am on Sunday said that there is a possibility that the missing MH370 aircraft made an 'air turn back' (the return of an aircraft to air port origin as a result of suspected malfunction).

He confirmed the search and rescue area has been extended to wider areas.

He also confirmed media reports on the discovery of an oil slick in the Vietnamese waters but no debris were found.

‘Vietnamese aircrafts are on the site right now to verify what exactly is on the surface of the waters,’ said Hishammuddin adding that Singapore, China, United States, Philippines and Indonesia teams are on their way to the respective search sites to assist in the efforts.

Singapore has also deployed three vessels to aid in search and rescue. Hishamuddin added that no Malaysian submarines will be deployed as they are not 'equipped for search and rescue'.

‘Intelligence agencies, counter terrorism units activated’

On the speculation that ‘stolen passports’ were used by passengers on the flight, he said that Malaysian authorities are working closely with international intelligence agencies and counter terrorism units.

‘Our own intelligence agencies have been activated. The CTIs (counter-terrorism intelligence) and CTUs (counter terrorism unit) from all relevant countries have been informed,’ adding that he has met adding that he has met with officers from the Federal Bureau Investigation (FBI), who have arrived in Malaysia.

When asked on reports that four people on the passenger’s manifest list used ‘wrong passports’, he said they are ‘investigating the whole manifest list of passengers on board’.


Story first published on: March 09, 2014 12:31 (MYT)
�The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves.� G Washington July 2, 1776

Offline Atomic Cow

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 18,221
  • Gender: Male
  • High Yield Minion
Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #118 on: March 09, 2014, 05:22:26 am »
“Captain Zaharie (Ahmad Shah, 53,) or Fariq (Abdul Hamid, 27)”

Isn't 27 really young to be a co-pilot on a tripple 7?

BTW 

Fariq’s brother, Afiq is a chemical engineering student, from Universiti Teknologi
Petronas….

In the US, yes.  With most US airlines, the 777 is the flagship so pilots are in their 50s and 60s and copilots are in their 30s-40s (seniority) as flying the 777 pays much better than flying a 737.
"...And these atomic bombs which science burst upon the world that night were strange, even to the men who used them."  H. G. Wells, The World Set Free, 1914

"The one pervading evil of democracy is the tyranny of the majority, or rather of that party, not always the majority, that succeeds, by force or fraud, in carrying elections." -Lord Acton

Offline Rapunzel

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 71,613
  • Gender: Female
Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #119 on: March 09, 2014, 05:25:38 am »
Australia today ‏@auTODAY 3m

Media update live .@MAS flight #MH370 16:05 AEDT Official confirm: Flight records 'indicate' missing plane DID turn-back towards Malaysia
�The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves.� G Washington July 2, 1776

Offline Rapunzel

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 71,613
  • Gender: Female
Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #120 on: March 09, 2014, 05:26:26 am »
Australia today ‏@auTODAY 2m

Media update live .@MAS flight #MH370 16:05 AEDT Official WOULD-NOT confirm how far the flight went after its 'turn-back' towards Malaysia
�The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves.� G Washington July 2, 1776

Offline Rapunzel

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 71,613
  • Gender: Female
Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #121 on: March 09, 2014, 05:27:02 am »
Australia today ‏@auTODAY 15s

.@MAS flight #MH370 16:20 AEDT MALAYSIAN MILITARY: RADAR INDICATED MISSING FLIGHT 'TURNED-BACK' BEFORE DISAPPEARING HT @mpoppel src REU
�The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves.� G Washington July 2, 1776

Offline Rapunzel

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 71,613
  • Gender: Female
Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #122 on: March 09, 2014, 05:27:34 am »
Australia today ‏@auTODAY 9m

Media update live - 16:05 AEDT A LAND-SEARCH is now included as a combined armada of 40 ships and 22 planes search #SouthChinaSea #MH370
�The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves.� G Washington July 2, 1776

Offline Rapunzel

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 71,613
  • Gender: Female
Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #123 on: March 09, 2014, 05:27:58 am »
ustralia today ‏@auTODAY 13m

Media update live - 16:05 AEDT A massive combined international fleet is searching the South China Sea for the missing @MAS flight #MH370
Expand
�The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves.� G Washington July 2, 1776

Offline Rapunzel

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 71,613
  • Gender: Female
Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China
« Reply #124 on: March 09, 2014, 05:28:26 am »
Australia today ‏@auTODAY 16m

Media update live - 16:05 AEDT Reporter asks: "How can a 777 turn off all comms devices?" Officials could not answer this question #MH370
�The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves.� G Washington July 2, 1776