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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2014, 04:49:47 pm »
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2014, 04:53:55 pm »
Obama is a horrible role model. He is a horrible manager. He is a horrible 'American'. He is a horrible President. He is a horrible worker who would get fired within a month if he worked at Burger King.
 
He is a slacker stoner from who knows where, with no mother, no father, and an extended Muslim family in Kenya. He comes from a crazy mother, a father who abandoned him, and a disfunctional childhood. He was unwanted and kicked around like a soccer ball as a child, and he does not know who he is.
 
Obama is the exact opposite of everything America represents. When he says things like, "Our forefathers, fought a revolution..." I always wonder who he is talking about. His forefathers fought lions for after-kill. He didn't fight any revolution. What is he talking about?
 
But,
 
Obama is making America stronger. Obama is way too stupid and gauche to 'boil the frog'. He is like an awkward retarded giant who comes in and says, "I want cotton candy!!" and when the store clerk says they don't have any cotton candy, he repeats, "I want cotton candy!!" Hulk Smash!!
 
The point is he has exposed both the Left and the Right for the greedy money hording worms that they are. He has put the spotlight on government like never before. He has exposed, through his childish stupidity, the graft, greed, corruption, and cronyism that is embedded in goverment from top to bottom.
 
Just like every single thing with the Left, they always accomplish the opposite of what ever they set out to do.
 
Obama will be the best thing to ever happen to America. He is destroying the Washington establishment. In a few years, after Obama is long gone and no one in high school even knows his name or who he was, America will be stronger for it.
 
Obama is challenging the weak points in America, and after we get rid of this fool, we will be stronger for it.
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2014, 04:57:52 pm »
Good points 240.  What dome mock or call a circular firing squad is actually a lot of us woken up and fighting for the soul of the nation.
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2014, 05:00:28 pm »
Good points 240.  What some mock or call a circular firing squad is actually a lot of us woken up and fighting for the soul of the nation.

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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2014, 05:16:44 pm »
Good points 240.  What dome mock or call a circular firing squad is actually a lot of us woken up and fighting for the soul of the nation.

Good post Rap!  We will not be silenced by those who mock us and try their level best to shift the blame on Washington's problems over to us!  It wasn't the tea partiers that brought us to this point - poised on the edge of the cliff, staring down at the jagged rocks.  We will not be silenced - the rest of the country should be THANKING us for being willing to stand up for them!
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #30 on: February 15, 2014, 05:25:11 pm »
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Good post Rap!  We will not be silenced by those who mock us and try their level best to shift the blame on Washington's problems over to us!  It wasn't the tea partiers that brought us to this point - poised on the edge of the cliff, staring down at the jagged rocks.  We will not be silenced - the rest of the country should be THANKING us for being willing to stand up for them!


I think a lot of people fear change so they are okay with status quo no matter if quo is taking all of us down a rabbit hole...  it's why they vote for the same old politicians year in and year out, all they care about is whether the person is an R or a D, they never stop to look at what the politician is doing to screw America..
 And by extension the person voting.
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2014, 01:32:34 pm »
Great outpouring. I've got nothing to add. Y'all said it better than I could.

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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #32 on: February 16, 2014, 02:27:56 pm »

 
Obama will be the best thing to ever happen to America. He is destroying the Washington establishment. In a few years, after Obama is long gone and no one in high school even knows his name or who he was, America will be stronger for it.
 
Obama is challenging the weak points in America, and after we get rid of this fool, we will be stronger for it.



Translation:  Don't think a Republican will EVER be able to get away with this sh*t!   :patriot:
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #33 on: February 16, 2014, 02:56:17 pm »
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I think a lot of people fear change so they are okay with status quo no matter if quo is taking all of us down a rabbit hole...  it's why they vote for the same old politicians year in and year out, all they care about is whether the person is an R or a D, they never stop to look at what the politician is doing to screw America..
 And by extension the person voting.

I'm just baffled how so many people still work under the assumption that there are two separate parties vying for power in DC.

If we all stop watching the social issues puppet show just long enough to analyze what's been going on in this country for the past several decades, we may actually figure out that no matter which "party" has been in power at what time, government expansionism and the move toward central planning-style Socialism has been constant, and relentless. 

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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #34 on: February 16, 2014, 03:18:27 pm »
I'm just baffled how so many people still work under the assumption that there are two separate parties vying for power in DC.

If we all stop watching the social issues puppet show just long enough to analyze what's been going on in this country for the past several decades, we may actually figure out that no matter which "party" has been in power at what time, government expansionism and the move toward central planning-style Socialism has been constant, and relentless. 

When in the Course of human events...

You are right about that and ONE of the current political parties has been selling itself as the one who will FIGHT to stop that but always never quite getting there! It's always wait until ____________ (you fill in the blank) with them and I'm SICK TO DEATH OF IT!   They finally and conclusively proved that to me when the very second one of theirs (Ted Cruz) actually tried to DO what he had promised to do in his campaign the long knives came out! NO MORE of that for me! Henceforth I will be working with the TEA party and other like groups  to take over the Republican party from the inside out! I am with them all the way in that effort!
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #35 on: February 16, 2014, 03:37:19 pm »
You are right about that and ONE of the current political parties has been selling itself as the one who will FIGHT to stop that but always never quite getting there! It's always wait until ____________ (you fill in the blank) with them and I'm SICK TO DEATH OF IT!   They finally and conclusively proved that to me when the very second one of theirs (Ted Cruz) actually tried to DO what he had promised to do in his campaign the long knives came out! NO MORE of that for me! Henceforth I will be working with the TEA party and other like groups  to take over the Republican party from the inside out! I am with them all the way in that effort!

There you go.

Sort of like an "Occupy the GOP" movement without the drum circles.

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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #36 on: February 16, 2014, 03:39:47 pm »
Greetings, all.

I haven't been around these parts for quite a while now, largely owing to my new responsibilities, which have consumed an average of 60 hours per week for the past six weeks. I've been catching up on sleep much of the rest of the time, or else I've been consumed with the mundane chores attendant to blissful domesticity, e.g.: chopping wood to feed the stove, blowing snow off the driveway, repairing drafty doors and leaky pipes, etc.

I find myself now trying to catch up on what I have missed - and there has been a good deal of food for thought, including this excellent thread. There are many comments here that I'd like to address individually, but I'll settle on just a few:

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Obama will be the best thing to ever happen to America. He is destroying the Washington establishment. In a few years, after Obama is long gone and no one in high school even knows his name or who he was, America will be stronger for it.

I believe that is a distinct possibility in the long run. But I am concerned most now about what will come in the relative short-term, and it will be nothing less than disaster: economic ruin, domestic unrest, and likely terrorist acts fomented by those who this horrid Administration has willfully encouraged.  May God help us all, and may we find the courage and strength to help each other.

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How can we entrust the GOP as currently led to wage this do-or-die battle?  We can't!  They run for cover as soon as the going gets rough.  People like Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Mike Lee and a few other courageous people are willing to put their necks on the chopping block to actually stand up and fight this monstrous rape of our life, liberty and pursuits of happiness!

I could not agree more, nor said it any better. That won't stop me from trying, however.  :tongue2:

The present GOP leadership lacks any relevance or political force.  It is not that they believe in nothing; in fact, much of what they appear to believe is essentially correct. Instead, their irrelevance proceeds from an unwillingness to publicly defend those beliefs, an inability to effectively communicate them, and a disinclination to risk placing the interests of their constituents above their future career ambitions.

John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, Eric Cantor (and a few others) are not all of the same kind, but there are at least four qualities of which they share an absence: leadership, vision, courage, and will. As a group, they are not statesmen, but rather future members of the Lobbyist Class.

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I have labored in the vineyard of the Republican party for more than 40 years now (since 1972),observed the 11th commandment for most of that time, and what has it brought me? NO MORE will I be silent when I see fellow Republicans aligning themselves with the forces of EVIL!

I suppose I gave up the practice of not criticizing other Republicans when I came to realize that marching in lockstep was a feature of Progressive Left that we'd do well not to emulate. Reasonable people can differ on many things, whereas an enforced intellectual uniformity is the product of fearful and unreasoning minds, sometimes of the kind that openly welcomes political repression. 

That conservatives sometimes disagree and vocalize their differences is not evidence of weakness, but of inner strength and of a belief in free speech, free minds and a free marketplace in which differing viewpoints may be tested and refined.

It is the opposite of the intellectual world which Barack Obama and his Progressives are presently intent upon creating.
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #37 on: February 16, 2014, 03:42:04 pm »
Andy!! Hope it's all going well for you, it sure sounds it!  :laugh: :laugh:

Missed your insights and your posts.

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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #38 on: February 16, 2014, 03:47:12 pm »
Andy!! Hope it's all going well for you, it sure sounds it!  :laugh: :laugh:

Missed your insights and your posts.

Thread derail over.
Thanks. It's good to be back. And equally nice to have a three-day weekend.  :beer:
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #39 on: February 16, 2014, 04:02:57 pm »
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I suppose I gave up the practice of not criticizing other Republicans when I came to realize that marching in lockstep was a feature of Progressive Left that we'd do well not to emulate. Reasonable people can differ on many things, whereas an enforced intellectual uniformity is the product of fearful and unreasoning minds, sometimes of the kind that openly welcomes political repression.

That conservatives sometimes disagree and vocalize their differences is not evidence of weakness, but of inner strength and of a belief in free speech, free minds and a free marketplace in which differing viewpoints may be tested and refined.

It is the opposite of the intellectual world which Barack Obama and his Progressives are presently intent upon creating.

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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #40 on: February 16, 2014, 05:18:42 pm »
Andy you gave no idea how much you've been missed here... glad you found a new job, sorry it's taken you away.
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #41 on: February 16, 2014, 05:43:07 pm »
Andy, you expressed my thoughts exactly! Glad to see you here.

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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #42 on: February 17, 2014, 03:39:38 am »
Andy wrote:
[[ The present GOP leadership lacks any relevance or political force.  It is not that they believe in nothing; in fact, much of what they appear to believe is essentially correct. Instead, their irrelevance proceeds from an unwillingness to publicly defend those beliefs, an inability to effectively communicate them, and a disinclination to risk placing the interests of their constituents above their future career ambitions. ]]

The Republicans are 21st-Century Whigs. If the party doesn't change direction in the next five years, they will disappear as a national party within fifteen years, if they're able to hang on that much longer.

The 2014 and 2016 elections will be the harbingers of the party's future.

A comment about what you wrote above, "much of what they appear to believe is essentially correct." Hmmm -- it's like the Pubbies are all in a rowboat that's pointed in the right direction, but next-to-nobody is rowing as the current against them rages. I would like to see a repeat of 1994 in 2014, but considering the sideways drift the Pubbies are in today, that's looking less likely than I would hope.

I don't think we'll lose the House in 2014, but if the Republican showing in 2014 is weak (as distinguished from decisive), the democrats may again sweep both houses of Congress in 2016, along with the presidency.

At that point the presidency is going to be beyond the "Republican reach". Will they be able to continue to exist as a party of any influence with such hopes fading into the sunset ??
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #43 on: February 17, 2014, 12:29:19 pm »

Perhaps the Cruz haters and posters telling us to fall in line and shut up can show us what the,old guard GOP gas accomplished lately??? All they do is capitulate while Obama and his minions steal the country from under them.. fun fact, if we didn't have Cruz, Lee, Paul the,take over would be complete and won without,a whimper from the GOP... and telling us Boehner gave us sequester don t fly, he caved on it,at his first opportunity.

I'm no Cruz hater.  Just don't trust him. 
Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #44 on: February 17, 2014, 09:02:13 pm »
I'm no Cruz hater.  Just don't trust him.

~LOL~ but you trust Chris Christie??????????  John McCain????  Mitch McConnell???? John Boehner????
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #45 on: February 18, 2014, 12:34:20 am »
~LOL~ but you trust Chris Christie??????????  John McCain????  Mitch McConnell???? John Boehner????

That's quite a leap.  I don't trust any of them.
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #46 on: February 18, 2014, 12:59:11 am »

Perhaps the Cruz haters and posters telling us to fall in line and shut up can show us what the,old guard GOP gas accomplished lately??? All they do is capitulate while Obama and his minions steal the country from under them.. fun fact, if we didn't have Cruz, Lee, Paul the,take over would be complete and won without,a whimper from the GOP... and telling us Boehner gave us sequester don t fly, he caved on it,at his first opportunity.

Well, we saw what Cruz and Lee accomplished when given their way:  they cajoled the 60 GOP Tea Party congressmen to follow them off the cliff and shutdown the government.

And, in their first big test, they showed their incompetence:  no strategy, no realistic way to achieve their goals, and the halt to a rise in Republican approval rating over Obama's Syria failure.

Lee seems to have learned his lesson, Cruz has not.  The man seems to think that "my way or the highway" is a viable plan when his party controls one half of one branch of the US government.
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #47 on: February 18, 2014, 01:04:56 am »
US Senators make he absolute worst Presidential candidates, and you would think that the example Obama set by using one elected office to leapfrog himself into a campaign for the next office, would have taught us something.

Ted Cruz has work to do in the Senate, and I like him just fine right where he is.  I urge him to stay there and provide leadership in the Senate, and perhaps work to return the Senate to its proper Constitutional role representing the interests of the Several States and functioning as an effective check and balance as intended.

I won't hold my breath till that happens though.....

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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #48 on: February 18, 2014, 01:10:56 am »
That's quite a leap.  I don't trust any of them.

"Don't trust any of them." Great starting point. Let them earn respect, with results.

And for me "results" means more than political speeches, which remind me of the only qualification Obam had.
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Re: Ted Cruz isn't planning to be in the Senate very long
« Reply #49 on: February 18, 2014, 01:15:43 am »
US Senators make he absolute worst Presidential candidates, and you would think that the example Obama set by using one elected office to leapfrog himself into a campaign for the next office, would have taught us something.

Ted Cruz has work to do in the Senate, and I like him just fine right where he is.  I urge him to stay there and provide leadership in the Senate, and perhaps work to return the Senate to its proper Constitutional role representing the interests of the Several States and functioning as an effective check and balance as intended.

I won't hold my breath till that happens though.....

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I agree.  He should stay in the Senate, mature, become a statesman.  He's young and has plenty of time to achieve and run for President later. 

If he runs in 2016, he won't even win the primary.
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