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Re: Dem Strategist: 'Party Is F****d'
« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2013, 07:58:20 pm »
No I wasn't.  I was criticizing Ted Cruz and Mike Lee for their fools errand of trying to defund Obamacare.  Everyone with a brain in his/her head told them it wouldn't work and it didn't work and wouldn't have worked if every Republican Senator had backed Cruz.

The problem the Tea Party has is that it's a minority of the Republican Party and will likely stay that way.  So, all the Tea party can do is screw things up.  It cannot advance anything on its own without the cooperation of the majority of the GOP.

If it is a minority of the republican party and all it can screw up, why can't we say the same about the congressional black caucus?  You try saying that and the FBI, CIA, NSA, TWA (had to throw that one in) will be you like white on rice for being a racist.

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Re: Dem Strategist: 'Party Is F****d'
« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2013, 08:06:55 pm »
Once again the monomaniacs hijack a thread.

The title is: Dem Strategist: 'Party Is F****d'. The opening paragraph and the three paragraphs following develop THIS topic. Then in paragraph 5, less than 3 full lines, the author takes the obligatory cheap shot at Senator Cruz and monomaniacs pounce with unrestrained glee.

So boring. So predictable. So annoying. One wonders if they can find anything else to talk about. Anything.
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Re: Dem Strategist: 'Party Is F****d'
« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2013, 08:09:42 pm »


The problem the Tea Party has is that it's a minority of the Republican Party and will likely stay that way.  So, all the Tea party can do is screw things up.  It cannot advance anything on its own without the cooperation of the majority of the GOP.



The Tea Party is going to get a pretty big bump....as the ;public learns firsthand what Obamacare means to them in $$$ and personal liberty...as well as what it's done to the economy/jobs.

Hopefully, they'll become a majority.....think 2010 squared.
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Re: Dem Strategist: 'Party Is F****d'
« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2013, 08:14:23 pm »
The Tea Party is going to get a pretty big bump....as the ;public learns firsthand what Obamacare means to them in $$$ and personal liberty...as well as what it's done to the economy/jobs.

Hopefully, they'll become a majority.....think 2010 squared.

I don't think so. Your model for Americans seems to be people who are hardworking, bright, and care.

I think Americans are stupid sheep who are led by the MSM.

The problems with Obamacare will be annoying to the public, but the media will remind them "at least they are trying, unlike those mean Republicans".

The MSM has damaged the Tea Party to the same level of Fox News, or Sarah Palin.

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Re: Dem Strategist: 'Party Is F****d'
« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2013, 08:22:31 pm »
I grew up during B&W television....when the bugle meant the Cavalry was cresting the hill to set things right.  All in thirty minutes.

I still believe that when it comes to a person's wallet and household disposable income being affected by the premium rise....the tax on the employer contribution, etc., ....not being able to lease that BMW and instead pouring it into health insurance you didn't want or need.....that we're going to see a landslide of bliblical proportions.


Of course, I still have an unopened bottle of champagne in the refrigerator...meant to celebrate Romney's landslide win....so WTF do I know?   
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Re: Dem Strategist: 'Party Is F****d'
« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2013, 08:34:43 pm »
I don't think so. Your model for Americans seems to be people who are hardworking, bright, and care.

I think Americans are stupid sheep who are led by the MSM.

The problems with Obamacare will be annoying to the public, but the media will remind them "at least they are trying, unlike those mean Republicans".

The MSM has damaged the Tea Party to the same level of Fox News, or Sarah Palin.

The Tea Party has damaged the Tea Party.  That silly shutdown did more to damage the TP and the Republicans than anything in the last three years.  Businesses which had backed the TP are now pulling away because of the tactics it favors.

As many predicted, Obamacare is in dire straits and is likely to stay there as more and more provisions of it become known.  It will not achieve its enrollment objectives, and insurance premiums will skyrocket for those in the exchanges. Fewer and fewer people will then sign up, thus forcing it into a death spiral.

We need to be patient, not pull the shutdown stunt again.  Refuse to improve the ACA or to fix it.  It will be a good issue in 2014.
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Re: Dem Strategist: 'Party Is F****d'
« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2013, 08:38:40 pm »
The Tea Party has damaged the Tea Party.  That silly shutdown did more to damage the TP and the Republicans than anything in the last three years.  Businesses which had backed the TP are now pulling away because of the tactics it favors.

So boring. So predictable. So annoying.

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« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2013, 10:29:48 pm »
I don't think so. Your model for Americans seems to be people who are hardworking, bright, and care.
I think Americans are stupid sheep who are led by the MSM.

It's both, and unfortunately the sheep are overtaking the producers.

We are at the tipping point and winner seems to be the party with the most graft and corruption and control of the medias.

Guess who that is??
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Re: Dem Strategist: 'Party Is F****d'
« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2013, 10:30:47 pm »
Once again the monomaniacs hijack a thread.

The title is: Dem Strategist: 'Party Is F****d'. The opening paragraph and the three paragraphs following develop THIS topic. Then in paragraph 5, less than 3 full lines, the author takes the obligatory cheap shot at Senator Cruz and monomaniacs pounce with unrestrained glee.

So boring. So predictable. So annoying. One wonders if they can find anything else to talk about. Anything.

What would be refreshing would be to see them actually discuss the DEMOCRATIC party - especially since it is the title of this thread.
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Re: Dem Strategist: 'Party Is F****d'
« Reply #34 on: October 29, 2013, 10:31:43 pm »
The Tea Party has damaged the Tea Party.  That silly shutdown did more to damage the TP and the Republicans than anything in the last three years.  Businesses which had backed the TP are now pulling away because of the tactics it favors.

As many predicted, Obamacare is in dire straits and is likely to stay there as more and more provisions of it become known.  It will not achieve its enrollment objectives, and insurance premiums will skyrocket for those in the exchanges. Fewer and fewer people will then sign up, thus forcing it into a death spiral.

We need to be patient, not pull the shutdown stunt again.  Refuse to improve the ACA or to fix it.  It will be a good issue in 2014.

This is so much B.S.
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Re: Dem Strategist: 'Party Is F****d'
« Reply #35 on: October 29, 2013, 10:41:28 pm »
What would be refreshing would be to see them actually discuss the DEMOCRATIC party - especially since it is the title of this thread.

Some of us have been while you and the rest of your TP crowd are trashing other Republicans.
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Re: Dem Strategist: 'Party Is F****d'
« Reply #36 on: October 29, 2013, 10:42:17 pm »
This is so much B.S.

Wow.  Brilliant argument.
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« Reply #37 on: October 29, 2013, 11:37:15 pm »
It IS bullsh*t.

What's bullshit is that once again Cincinnatus starts his crap jumping around the forum...on MULTIPLE threads harassing and complaining about Sinkspur and the fact that a thread goes off-topic......like that doesn't happen all the freaking time.

What's bullshit is that then Rap gives him credence by going after Sinkspur.   AGAIN!

Lighten up please.  We were ignoring him nicely, until you came along.

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« Reply #38 on: October 29, 2013, 11:43:23 pm »
What would be refreshing would be to see them actually discuss the DEMOCRATIC party -

What a novel idea.

Or we could just whine endlessly because we are in charge and disapprove of something someone has posted.

What's bullshit is that once again Cincinnatus starts his crap jumping around the forum...on MULTIPLE threads harassing and complaining about Sinkspur and the fact that a thread goes off-topic......like that doesn't happen all the freaking time.

What's bullshit is that then Rap gives him credence by going after Sinkspur.   AGAIN!


Why can't everyone find the same things important as this guy does and talk about nothing else?  Life is such a biatch especially when yours is the only opinion that matters.
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Re: Dem Strategist: 'Party Is F****d'
« Reply #39 on: October 29, 2013, 11:43:35 pm »
It IS bullsh*t.

What's bullshit is that once again Cincinnatus starts his crap jumping around the forum...on MULTIPLE threads harassing and complaining about Sinkspur and the fact that a thread goes off-topic......like that doesn't happen all the freaking time.

What's bullshit is that then Rap gives him credence by going after Sinkspur.   AGAIN!

Lighten up please.  We were ignoring him nicely, until you came along.
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His constant changing the subject of every thread to anti Cruz and anti- Tea Party is what is getting old.
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« Reply #40 on: October 29, 2013, 11:45:30 pm »
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His constant changing the subject of every thread to anti Cruz and anti- Tea Party is what is getting old.

Can you read?  Cruz is mentioned in the article. 
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Re: Dem Strategist: 'Party Is F****d'
« Reply #41 on: October 29, 2013, 11:47:19 pm »
It IS bullsh*t.

What's bullshit is that once again Cincinnatus starts his crap jumping around the forum...on MULTIPLE threads harassing and complaining about Sinkspur and the fact that a thread goes off-topic......like that doesn't happen all the freaking time.

What's bullshit is that then Rap gives him credence by going after Sinkspur.   AGAIN!

Lighten up please.  We were ignoring him nicely, until you came along.

Thanks DC.  I have no idea what Cincinnatus says cuz I never see it. 

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« Reply #42 on: October 29, 2013, 11:47:33 pm »
True dat: His constant changing the subject of every thread to anti Cruz and anti- Tea Party is what is getting old.

A small point somehow overlooked by DCP.
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Re: Dem Strategist: 'Party Is F****d'
« Reply #43 on: October 29, 2013, 11:54:55 pm »
Can you read?  Cruz is mentioned in the article.

You need to go back and actually READ the article.  No where in the article is Ted Cruz mentioned, just as he is not mentioned in a dozen other posts you've made about him.  The very last paragraph makes mention of the Tea Party - not Ted Cruz.  Newsflash - Ted Cruz is a member of the Tea Party - he is not THE Tea Party.
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« Reply #44 on: October 29, 2013, 11:58:45 pm »
The Tea Party declared war on the GOP Establishment.  The GOP Establishment is just responding in kind.  The GOPe has now decided that the Tea Party is no longer just a wacky nuisance, but in fact a dangerous growth that must be excised.  I missed the prognostications of the Tea Party but I do remember 41 votes in the House to repeal Obamacare.  I also remember Obamacare passing without a single GOP vote.  The GOP was sitting pretty on this issue long before Cruz shutdown the GOP brand.

/snicker

I hear the sticky sound of sour grapes.

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Re: Dem Strategist: 'Party Is F****d'
« Reply #45 on: October 30, 2013, 12:10:43 am »
No I wasn't.  I was criticizing Ted Cruz and Mike Lee for their fools errand of trying to defund Obamacare.  Everyone with a brain in his/her head told them it wouldn't work and it didn't work and wouldn't have worked if every Republican Senator had backed Cruz.


Criticizing?  You were running around this forum for 2 weeks like some deranged, anti-Ted Cruz Rain Man making a total ass of yourself. 

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« Reply #46 on: October 30, 2013, 12:19:26 am »
FYI..not everything is about Ted Cruz!

If the tone of this thread doesn't change it will be locked..I am tired of doing this on perfectly good topics.
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Re: Dem Strategist: 'Party Is F****d'
« Reply #47 on: October 30, 2013, 12:20:19 am »
Criticizing?  You were running around this forum for 2 weeks like some deranged, anti-Ted Cruz Rain Man making a total ass of yourself.

No.  TED CRUZ made an ass of himself, shutting down the government with no strategy as to how he was going to win and costing the entire Republican Party a huge hit in favorability.

But, hey, Ted's rakin' in the campaign dough, which was why he shut the government down in the first place.
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« Reply #48 on: October 30, 2013, 12:22:14 am »
No.  TED CRUZ made an ass of himself, shutting down the government with no strategy as to how he was going to win and costing the entire Republican Party a huge hit in favorability.

But, hey, Ted's rakin' in the campaign dough, which was why he shut the government down in the first place.

sink I think you are obsessed with Cruz..I just don't understand your hatred of him.
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« Reply #49 on: October 30, 2013, 12:28:12 am »
Everyone I talk to, as well as post with on other sites, are admitting that Ted Cruz was right all along. He did America a favor by pointing out the lies in Obamacare. At the time, many considered him a fool. Now, some of the same people consider him a hero.