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The Roof is on Fire: Solar Shingles Let you Green on the Sly
« on: February 21, 2013, 09:48:31 PM »

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Re: The Roof is on Fire: Solar Shingles Let you Green on the Sly
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2013, 09:49:18 PM »
This is the first I've seen these... I like the solar tiles.. much nicer than the solar panels that stick up and look like crap.

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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2013, 09:52:14 PM »
Awesome!  I've always thought that cities like NYC could generate a substantial amount of juice if they had solar panels like this that could be put on in small increments and were flexible enough to fit various shapes without sticking up like gargantuan insects of some sort.

Funny thing that it took a private company - not some crony capitalists sucking on the taxpayers' teat (ahem, Solyndra) to come up with something like this.

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Re: The Roof is on Fire: Solar Shingles Let you Green on the Sly
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2013, 10:03:45 PM »
Problems involved include lifetime of panels, maintenance of panels, weaknesses of batteries for storage, etc.

But the overall technology works, no doubt. Germany invested  heavily in Spain, and learned some of what I mentioned above.

In my location, my electric bill is too low, for solar to work even with the subsidies, through the government, using other taxpayers' money.

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Re: The Roof is on Fire: Solar Shingles Let you Green on the Sly
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2013, 10:07:04 PM »
Problems involved include lifetime of panels, maintenance of panels, weaknesses of batteries for storage, etc.

But the overall technology works, no doubt. Germany invested  heavily in Spain, and learned some of what I mentioned above.

In my location, my electric bill is too low, for solar to work even with the subsidies, through the government, using other taxpayers' money.



I agree that it's not right for every place, and I certainly think the technology should stand on its own two feet - no gov't subsidies - either it makes it because it's a value-add for enough people that they buy it, or it's not and it either hits the ash heap or it goes back to the labs for the next version.

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Re: The Roof is on Fire: Solar Shingles Let you Green on the Sly
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2013, 10:18:28 PM »
Problems involved include lifetime of panels, maintenance of panels, weaknesses of batteries for storage, etc.

But the overall technology works, no doubt. Germany invested  heavily in Spain, and learned some of what I mentioned above.

In my location, my electric bill is too low, for solar to work even with the subsidies, through the government, using other taxpayers' money.

My average electric bill in summer is $250 + ... my friend who have a house just under 4000 SF here have solar for the house and their pool and their bill runs about $8 a month.

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Re: The Roof is on Fire: Solar Shingles Let you Green on the Sly
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2013, 11:24:17 PM »
My average electric bill in summer is $250 + ... my friend who have a house just under 4000 SF here have solar for the house and their pool and their bill runs about $8 a month.

Location is obviously key.  In your area it makes eminent good sense to install solar.  In Northern Michigan it probably does not.

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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2013, 11:27:50 PM »
Another issue is how well would they stand up to a hail storm?

And I don't mean pea sized hail, but a good Texas hail storm the size of golf balls or bigger.
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Re: The Roof is on Fire: Solar Shingles Let you Green on the Sly
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2013, 11:10:48 AM »
I've been interested in solar (active and passive) energy since attending a seminar in Texas back in 1980, and remember reading articles in home improvement magazines about these less obtrusive and attractive solar shingles at least 4-5 years ago. When we built our house in 2009, we considered including a rooftop solar electricity-generatingn system, but it would have added at least $25,000 to the cost. Instead, we put $20,000 into a geothermal heating system and included an array of windows on the south side for passive solar gain.

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Re: The Roof is on Fire: Solar Shingles Let you Green on the Sly
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2013, 08:51:03 PM »
I've been interested in solar (active and passive) energy since attending a seminar in Texas back in 1980, and remember reading articles in home improvement magazines about these less obtrusive and attractive solar shingles at least 4-5 years ago. When we built our house in 2009, we considered including a rooftop solar electricity-generatingn system, but it would have added at least $25,000 to the cost. Instead, we put $20,000 into a geothermal heating system and included an array of windows on the south side for passive solar gain.



Geothermal and passive are definitely important resources that should be considered, along with other (relatively) simple things like shading windows properly so they get Sun in the winter and little or no Sun in the summer.
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Re: The Roof is on Fire: Solar Shingles Let you Green on the Sly
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2013, 09:35:53 PM »
Geothermal and passive are definitely important resources that should be considered, along with other (relatively) simple things like shading windows properly so they get Sun in the winter and little or no Sun in the summer.

My front windows get sun in the winter.. as the days grow longer the sun moves around the house and the garage shades the windows from the hottest sun during the day.,. in addition I have solar screens which significantly cut the cost of my summer cooling bills..


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