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'We don't shower for a month... and we're often naked': Male soldiers warn female comrades of harsh conditions on frontline as Panetta lifts battlefield ban on women

    Ex-soldiers tell of how they often have to relieve themselves inches away from one another inside cramped tanks
    Other times they are all forced to strip naked and wash with power hoses
    Say that it will be awkward having women thrown in the harrowing mix
    Defense Secretary Leon Panetta to announce plan today

By Daily Mail Reporter

PUBLISHED: 09:22 EST, 24 January 2013 | UPDATED: 10:54 EST, 24 January 2013



A number of former soldiers have spoken out against the move because of the tough logistical life of fighters on the front line, even though many outsiders see Defense Secretary Leon Panetta's decision to lift the ban on women serving in combat positions as a progressive move.

Some have spoken out about how the move ignores some of the realities of war, like disgusting unhygienic conditions and the way that soldiers are sometimes forced to change in front of one another, in favor of gender equality.

One wrote a letter in the Wall Street Journal describing the conditions he faced on the front line when he was involved in the initial invasion of Iraq in 2003.

Up to 25 Marines at a time were packed into an amphibious assault vehicles intended to hold only 15, with the Marines sitting ontop of one another for long periods of time.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2267652/Mixed-reactions-allow-women-line-soldiers-warn-tough-disgusting-conditions-battlefield.html#ixzz2IuLKzwlx

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And how will women "that time of the month" deal with this?  This is utter insanity.

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Nancy Duff Campbell, the co-president of the National Women's Law Center, told MailOnline that female soldiers already undergo a specific training course dedicated to discussing gender-specific hygiene issues.

As a result, many use a tool called a Female Urinary Diversion Device (which effectively has a small tube that runs down one's pant leg) would allow women to urinate into a container if they were kept in a tank for a long period of time.
 
They also cover a number of ways to address their menstrual cycles by either taking daily menstruation suppressant pills.

'This isn't something new; part of this is a response to what has been going on for a long time,' Ms Duff Campbell said.

'I'm not particularly concerned about the hygienic concerns. There might be privacy concerns that you'd like to have but you cant have in a battle environment.'
There are privacy concerns that need not arise at all, simply by not putting women in the "battle environment," moron.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2013, 12:54:04 PM by mountaineer »
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There is only one reason for the promotion of such an "experiment": to damage America's military cohesion and effectiveness. There is no responsible military expert who believes this to be a good idea.

« Last Edit: January 24, 2013, 12:59:25 PM by andy58-in-nh »
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Liberalism isn't really about making the world a better place. It's about reassuring the elites that they are good people for wanting to rule over it.

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Retired Army Lt. Gen. William G. Boykin, the former head of the U.S. Special Forces Command, says infantry and other front-line units are no place for women, and it has nothing to do with their courage or capabilities:

"The people making this decision are doing so as part of another social experiment, and they have never lived nor fought with an infantry or Special Forces unit," Boykin said in a statement released by the conservative Family Research Council, for whom he now works.

"These units have the mission of closing with and destroying the enemy, sometimes in close hand-to-hand combat. They are often in sustained operations for extended periods, during which they have no base of operations nor facilities. Their living conditions are primal in many situations with no privacy for personal hygiene or normal functions."...

"Is the social experiment worth placing this burden on small unit leaders? I think not," he concluded. Boykin is a former deputy undersecretary of defense for intelligence who worked with the CIA in the 1990s.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/women-combat-part-another-social-experiment-says-retired-army-general
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A lot more women will get pregnant, and not from our male soldiers, but the enemy when they are captured. There's too many negatives to allow this. Besides, it's another slippery slope. Next, women will want private johns, and other personal items they consider necessities. Not yet, but it will happen.

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Given the strangeness and perversion of modern American leftist society...I think many of the women might think it fun for the men to be naked and a bit grungy.  They would think it all a daring new move pushing the social envelope...which, of course, makes it all important...far more important than silly, useless military effectiveness.
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Jessie Jane Duff served 20 years on active duty in the U.S. Marine Corps and retired a Gunnery Sergeant. She has written an article for the "Weekly Standard" entitled Women in Combat: Be Careful What You Wish For

Worth a read.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/women-combat-be-careful-what-you-wish_697655.html
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This is such insanity that I can't even think of a comment that isn't obvious to the sane, and will never be recognized by the insane, (liberals).

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