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I have nothing against brain storming ..
but...
can this one.
Having said that, I do understand where he's coming from. Some of the hits are vicious as players get bigger, stronger and meaner.
I watched RG3 in the game against the Giants and everyone is worried about him running out of the pocket. Hell, his biggest hits were taken in the pocket.
The safest place for him is out of the pocket.
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Why not just have the team that just scored simply punt from their own 30, instead of kick off? Or else simply place the ball in the possession of the other team at their own 20, 1st and 10.
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Where is the evidence that punts are less susceptible to injury?  A punt receiver who decides to forego a fair catch can get creamed, whereas a kickoff receiver usually has plenty of time to catch the ball.

I thought Rush's take on this was hilarious:

RUSH: As far as the NFL kickoff, I have an alternative idea.  When I worked at the Kansas City Royals, the Chiefs were right across parking lot M.  M is a parking lot between Arrowhead Stadium and now Kauffman Stadium.  I had some friends over at it Chiefs PR office, and we played tough football with the Chiefs front office when baseball season ended every Thursday afternoon.

I'd go back and forth, and I saw some of the posters that the league -- now, this is early eighties, so it's a little time ago -- but I saw some of the posters the league sent out to help teams market and sell tickets.  And one of the posters, I'll never forget this, one of the posters said this:  "If you know that more people bowl in a week than attend NFL games in a season, then you know America."  Now, the NFL is trying to tell its member teams that there's a whole bunch of people out there to sell tickets to that you haven't marketed.  And bowling was held out as the -- and of course you know the Tomb of the Unknown Bowler is in Raytown, Missouri, not very far from Arrowhead Stadium.  I was once asked to place a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Bowler when I lived in Kansas City.  I never had a chance to go.

But here's my idea.  Instead of this fourth and 15 stuff, I mean you still got contact.  If you start the game fourth and 15 on the 30, you still punt.  Still contact.  Still a possibility for concussion and then murder and suicide.  We want to eliminate that.  So, I think what the NFL ought to do is put portable bowling alleys on the sideline at every game and then have the team captain, or whoever's the best bowler on the team, bowl one ball, and you get three points for every pin knocked down.  So the team captain goes out there and rolls one ball down the bowling lane.

If you knock down seven pins, you start at the 21 yard line.  No contact.  And therein you have given a whole new reason for bowlers to attend NFL games.  Imagine the excitement, something you couldn't capture at home even on high definition, the excitement of the team captain in full uniform bowling.  And after every touchdown the team captain would bowl again to find out where the team starts from.  And you've saved lives, you've saved countless lives with this, and if you bowl a strike, three points per pin, you're starting at the 30.  If you gutter ball, you're starting at your own, you know, one-inch line.  Maybe throw a gutter ball, safety, and you do it all over again, who knows.  But think of the lives saved, and think of the careers that will be extended.
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"Where is the evidence that punts are less susceptible to injury?  A punt receiver who decides to forego a fair catch can get creamed, whereas a kickoff receiver usually has plenty of time to catch the ball."
Precisely.
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There is one easier way to achieve the same effect: allow the kickoff specialists to kick the ball out of bounds, the same way the punters are allowed to. Punts are safer because punters are allowed-- and able-- to do coffin-corner kicks. A kickoff specialist is basically forced to keep the ball in bounds or else see it forced out to the 40-yard line.

This proposal just puts way too much power in the hands of an offense that, if sufficiently dominant, will be able to keep possession of the ball theoretically forever without ever letting their opponent touch it.

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Why not just have the team that just scored simply punt from their own 30, instead of kick off? Or else simply place the ball in the possession of the other team at their own 20, 1st and 10.

What exactly is the difference to the kick-returner whether the ball is 'punted' from the 30.....or off a tee from the 35?

Are they suggesting that the kicker's teammates will start from a standing position at the moment the ball is "punted".....and that giving them a running start as it is in 'kickoffs' is what enhances the chances of injury to the kick-returner....er sorry, the poor bast*rd that is supposed to run it back?

I realize that football players are bigger and stronger today, but to eliminate the kick-off?

They might as well just chance it to 'touch' football and not have them wear pads or helmets.
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Also, doesn't punting preclude an on-side kick when the team needs to get the ball back after scorung late in the game?

This idea simply doesn't pass muster...MUD
The plan says it would be one play in which they could punt or run a scrimmage play. However, they'd have to advance the ball 15 yards in that one play to get a first down. So instead of an onside kick, it'd be a Hail Mary.

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I didn't like it when basketball did away with jump balls and replaced them with the possession arrow, and I probably wouldn't like eliminating the kickoff. Harrumph.
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Also, doesn't punting preclude an on-side kick when the team needs to get the ball back after scorung late in the game?

This idea simply doesn't pass muster...MUD

Good point Mud, they might have to do away with the on-side kick too....the Law of Unintended Consequences at work.

The bottom line in my book is that these guys choose to play professional football, and they all know it isn't like playing poker or building cars at the GM plant.  They do take a risk but the players all do it with eyes wide open.  If they make a change like this one, the game will no longer be the football we all know and love.




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Good point Mud, they might have to do away with the on-side kick too....the Law of Unintended Consequences at work.

The bottom line in my book is that these guys choose to play professional football, and they all know it isn't like playing poker or building cars at the GM plant.  They do take a risk but the players all do it with eyes wide open.  If they make a change like this one, the game will no longer be the football we all know and love.

The guys I feel sorry for are the college players who never play in the NFL but suffer a lot of the same problems as they age.  I know a few personally.
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Why not just have the team that just scored simply punt from their own 30, instead of kick off? Or else simply place the ball in the possession of the other team at their own 20, 1st and 10.

I'd hate to lose those plays where a member of the special teams receives a kickoff and runs it all the way back for a score.  It doesn't happen often, but it happens and it's always a thrill.  (Unless it's being done against my team, of course.)
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