Author Topic: RUSH: Republicans must walk away from any deal with Obama and the Democrats on the fiscal cliff  (Read 1529 times)

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This morning I listened to a Democrat on Fox say - with a straight face - the Democrats already cut spending $716 million when they took that money out of medicare. Megyn Kelly and Mark Thiesen both almost fell out of their chairs and said in unison -- WAIT, that money was just moved from Medicare to pay for Obamacare and Simon Rosenberg said - yes, that was a cut in spending so we have already done our part and at a meeting I was at with Obama yesterday that is all the compromise you are going to get........  :thud: :thud: :thud:

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Great first post

I tend to agree with Rush here...let the Dems have their fingerprints all over this...we are never gonna get what we want anyways..

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Great first post

I tend to agree with Rush here...let the Dems have their fingerprints all over this...we are never gonna get what we want anyways..
Rush and anybody that wants to continue viewing America the old way, is missing the point the voters continue to try to make.

They want solutions, not the same old arguments. The majority WANTS to raise taxes on the rich.

The GOP should RELUCTANTLY go along, WARNING it likely will NOT increase revenues, and will likely SLOW the economy, growth, employment etc.

If 2014 yields a still weak economy, the GOP has the basis for "see, we told you so."

And if 2014 yields some improvements, the GOP can claim to have contributed to the "compromise."

I recognize I am not following the "true conservative" pack. I'll take that in stride, because except the 2010 House, the "true conservatives" are on an extended losing streak.

But it sure is fun to echo what Rush says, as he entertains with daily dose of conflict and anger. Doing the same things over and over, expecting different results is insanity.

Rush, Levin, Beck and others give listeners their daily doses of anger and conflict, and they KNOW it works, they get paid bigtime.

But it yields no political results of good consequence. Conservativism is NOT winning elections, by listening to them.

We need truly new thinking, new paradigms, and I expect that will come from some new voices.

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In other words:  Move Left.  :whistle:

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I slightlydisagree with Rush, but perhaps not in any substantive way.  The GOP lower house of congress should simply pass a responsible bill that deals with all the issues from entitlements to spending to taxes.  After that, they should just sit on their hands and refuse to support either a fiscal cliff deal or a raise in the debt ceiling.
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And BTW.... as this article points out Bush raised - not lowered - taxes on the rich, it was the poor who benefited not the rich... the media is too stupid and too corrupt to report actual data.

http://news.investors.com/print/ibd-editorials-perspective/112812-635034-5-secrets-about-the-bush-tax-cuts.aspx


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He lives in California... our left is his right.

Ah!  The motherland of "new thinking" and "new paradigms"  (whatever those are).  :beer:

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the media is too stupid and too corrupt to report actual data.

http://news.investors.com/print/ibd-editorials-perspective/112812-635034-5-secrets-about-the-bush-tax-cuts.aspx

Too corrupt...it is entirely that they are too corrupt.  They are fellow-riders in the government class.  True, some of the talking heads are also stupid, but their corruption is what rules them.
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The way I heard it earlier today Geithner showed up without a plan for anything but increase taxes "on the rich"... they seem to think they have the upper hand and screw anything but what THEY demand.......  time for the Tea Party to rear itself bigtime....

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Agreed.  What have we got to lose?  They are not going to concede anything, and Rs are going to get the blame, no matter what is done and no matter what the outcome.

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The way I heard it earlier today Geithner showed up without a plan for anything but increase taxes "on the rich"... they seem to think they have the upper hand and screw anything but what THEY demand.......  time for the Tea Party to rear itself bigtime....

That is hubris that comes from a state controlled media...and the knowledge that your opposition has ALWAYS folded in the face of it.
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I slightly disagree with Rush, but perhaps not in any substantive way.  The GOP lower house of congress should simply pass a responsible bill that deals with all the issues from entitlements to spending to taxes.  After that, they should just sit on their hands and refuse to support either a fiscal cliff deal or a raise in the debt ceiling.

Agreed ^^^^

Yes.  They need to pass something to avoid or curtail the do nothing label.

There are times when you have to risk all, to walk out the other side with your principles and constitution intact.


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