Prediction: Romney is going to lose ...

[Chieftain]

It is still awfully early in the campaign, so I would not recommend slashing one's wrists just yet...

[Luis Gonzalez]

I'm of two minds, Luis.  I like Rubio.  But you make a good point.  That birthplace thing could be a problem for him.

But I also like West.  He would make a great attack dog (with the added benefit of having that great Florida tan, giving him more leeway in criticizing the president).  And I'd certainly be comfortable if a man with his tough military background had to step up to the role of president.

I've had the pleasure to meet them both.

They are both great Americans.

[Oceander]

It is still awfully early in the campaign, so I would not recommend slashing one's wrists just yet...

If one gets the urge to slash, there are much, much better things to slash, like Obuttocks campaign posters, etc.

[Luis Gonzalez]

JIM is that you? LMAO

I know...ain't that just the S#IT?

I have to maintain my intellectual integrity, and if I don't believe that Obama qualifies then I can't support Rubio.

Here...read this:

Birth of a Notion, Part 2. Barack Obama and the XIV Amendment

[R4 TrumPence]

I know...ain't that just the S#IT?

I have to maintain my intellectual integrity, and if I don't believe that Obama qualifies then I can't support Rubio.

Here...read this:

Birth of a Notion, Part 2. Barack Obama and the XIV Amendment

Isn't there anything legally written concerning Cuban immigrants that is acceptable  for him to run?

If not then I go with West all the way!!

[NavyCanDo]

People, people, people  - we are starting to speak with the same pessimistic voices that turned us away from Freerepublic.  Don’t fall for every bit of misinformation that hits a Drudge headline, or mainstream media for that matter. Nobody saw Palin coming back in 2008, not even Drudge. I think Romney is smart enough to know that he is going to have to throw the conservatives a bone, with a great pick.

The qualities he must look for:
Conservative, but yet will appeal to moderates or a large voting bloc like Hispanics. Articulate. No teleprompter required
Sharp. Ready for those gotcha questions.
Dynamic.    Fire in the belly

I have faith that He will pick a good one, and in a few weeks that name will be a hot topic here on GOPBR

[aligncare]

Good post, Navy.  I agree.  But, I understand folks' concerns.  Should Romney lose (which I firmly believe will not happen), Obama and the Democrats class warfare jihad would put the final nails in the coffin of the free America we all grew up in.  It would be a terrible day in the history of this (once) great nation.  In fact, sadness would spread round the world because people even in the furthest reaches of the globe understand the important role America plays on the world stage.

Geez, I think I just talked myself into depression.

[Chieftain]

People, people, people  - we are starting to speak with the same pessimistic voices that turned us away from Freerepublic.  Don’t fall for every bit of misinformation that hits a Drudge headline, or mainstream media for that matter. Nobody saw Palin coming back in 2008, not even Drudge. I think Romney is smart enough to know that he is going to have to throw the conservatives a bone, with a great pick.

The qualities he must look for:
Conservative, but yet will appeal to moderates or a large voting bloc like Hispanics. Articulate. No teleprompter required
Sharp. Ready for those gotcha questions.
Dynamic.    Fire in the belly

I have faith that He will pick a good one, and in a few weeks that name will be a hot topic here on GOPBR

Well said Navy, and I strongly second that emotion....

[massadvj]

I posted this on another thread, but since this thread is getting all the action, and it is apropos, I'll post it her as well:

If I was running Romney's campaign I'd go even further than just calling OPapaDoc a liar.  I'd hammer away at the insecurity people are feeling.  I'd talk about how we all know the country is on the wrong track, that we are being told things are fine when they are not.  That our gluttonous politicians are devouring our very way of life and are now taking over like parasites on the body of a man eking out the last breaths of life.  The country is now in a situation where we are being told that up is not up and down is not down.  Our free markets are no longer free.  Our airports are now gulags guarded by federal thugs.  Our suburban neighborhoods are gang-ridden, drug infested hell-holes unsafe for anyone.  Our schools are nothing more than baby-sitting centers that feed feel good liberal indoctrination to the young.  In short, we are living in a society that is tightly controlled by a group of elite, corrupt politicians who pander to the masses but never really deliver anything but symbols, rhetoric and more power for themselves.

What the American people do not know is that they have it in their power to make it all go away with a single vote. 

Barack Obama did not cause all this.  But he has made the situation much worse than it was.  And he has done it because he is a cheap, corrupt politician from Chicago whose world view holds that America should bring itself down to the level of the rest of the world.

Having laid this foundation, Romney should then present a plan for real, systematic, comprehensive reform of government based on our founding principles.  Romney should admit that he has been too trusting of government in the past, but that if given this one opportunity, he will make it his life's achievement to go about the task of draining the swamp and rebuilding our federal institutions to serve people rather than bully them.  Making this come about will be difficult, but first we have to get rid of the king of the bullies who seeks to divide America rather than unite it.

Is Romney capable of this grand a vision?  I keep hoping.  But so far all I have seen is more of the same old same old.

[NavyCanDo]

Should Romney lose (which I firmly believe will not happen), Obama and the Democrats class warfare jihad would put the final nails in the coffin of the free America we all grew up in. 

Like Glenn Beck said this morning, "America does not survive one more term of Obama."

[mystery-ak]

Like Glenn Beck said this morning, "America does not survive one more term of Obama."

That, I think we can all agree on.


A Guide to Winning the Goriest Campaign in 184 Years by Keith Koffler

[aligncare]

I posted this on another thread, but since this thread is getting all the action, and it is apropos, I'll post it her as well:

If I was running Romney's campaign I'd .....

SNIP

Is Romney capable of this grand a vision?  I keep hoping.  But so far all I have seen is more of the same old same old.

Good post, mass.  From your keyboard to the attention of Romney's campaign team.  God help us.  Prayers up.

[massadvj]

Good post, mass.  From your keyboard to the attention of Romney's campaign team.  God help us.  Prayers up.

One problem.  The GOP establishment is scared to death of Romney running too "extreme" a campaign lest it affect the senate and congressional races.  That, plus Romney's own hesitancy and moderateness, is why it won't likely happen.

I think McCain had the right approach in 2008 when he ran as a maverick reformer.  Unfortunately, the whole thing came crashing down after he supported the Wall Street bailouts and people realized he was not really serious.  He was ahead in the polls up to that point.

Undecideds are not moderates.  They are distrustful of politicians, and rightly so.  They want authenticity above anything else.  That is why that Bain attacks are working.  They send the message that Romney is just a self-interested, corrupt hack.  They already know that about Obama.  But they are saying to themselves: "Better the the self-interested, corrupt hack I know than the one I don't know.  At least he sends me unemployment and food stamps."

Romney has to become authentic before November or he will lose.  If it is in him, I haven't seen it yet.  The primary did nothing in this regard, and so was a failure at vetting our nominee.

[aligncare]

... That is why that Bain attacks are working.  They send the message that Romney is just a self-interested, corrupt hack....

Except that, as Karl Rove just pointed out on Fox, Obama launched the Bain attack ads at the beginning of May when national polls had it Obama 45, Romney 45.  Now, 2 1/2 months later, those same polls have it Obama 46, Romney 46.  So that line of attack appears to have faltered.  But that's the only flaw I see in your analysis.

[massadvj]

Except that, as Karl Rove just pointed out on Fox, Obama launched the Bain attack ads at the beginning of May when national polls had it Obama 45, Romney 45.  Now, 2 1/2 months later, those same polls have it Obama 46, Romney 46.  So that line of attack appears to have faltered.  But that's the only flaw I see in your analysis.

I wouldn't take too much stock in Rove.  Romney has gone from ahead to behind in VA and FL.  Obama is pulling away in OH.  PA is nearly out of reach.  Rove knows this, but prefers to look at the national picture where Romney's numbers reflect his improvement in places he was going to win anyway, while Obama improves his position in the battleground states.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/va/virginia_romney_vs_obama-1774.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/oh/ohio_romney_vs_obama-1860.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/fl/florida_romney_vs_obama-1883.html

[Rapunzel]

Except that, as Karl Rove just pointed out on Fox, Obama launched the Bain attack ads at the beginning of May when national polls had it Obama 45, Romney 45.  Now, 2 1/2 months later, those same polls have it Obama 46, Romney 46.  So that line of attack appears to have faltered.  But that's the only flaw I see in your analysis.

You cannot go by national polls, you have to look state by state and in the critical swing states where those ads have been running Obama is pulling well ahead of Romney.  His team better get their head out of the sand and fast!   

BTW, massadjv...... did you catch your old friend Willie Brown on Bill O'Reilly last night?  He was singing praises about Arnold Schwartzeneger because Arnie "went above and beyond to help blacks in CA".......  I can't stand Brown 99% of the time, but have to admit the man has charisma and that is likely why he thrived as he has in CA.

[massadvj]

You cannot go by national polls, you have to look state by state and in the critical swing states where those ads have been running Obama is pulling well ahead of Romney.  His team better get their head out of the sand and fast!   

BTW, massadjv...... did you catch your old friend Willie Brown on Bill O'Reilly last night?  He was singing praises about Arnold Schwartzeneger because Arnie "went above and beyond to help blacks in CA".......  I can't stand Brown 99% of the time, but have to admit the man has charisma and that is likely why he thrived as he has in CA.

Charisma, extreme intelligence and absolutely no scruples or conscience whatsoever.  Being liberals, we loved him for all of those things.

[Oceander]

Charisma, extreme intelligence and absolutely no scruples or conscience whatsoever.  Being liberals, we loved him for all of those things.

Interesting.  I can think of several figures of historic proportions who possessed those same characteristics - and another who currently lives in DC.

[Oldbrowser]

 We have an "American Idol" electorate.   They Are looking for entertainment.

 Many women are looking for a sexy, leading man type, to be the leader of the country. If he rides a white stallion with a flowing mane, so much the better.

 Who would want two boring men in gray suits operating in the background making the economy hum along and never bring any drama into our lives?
 Wouldn't it be so much better to see Obama prancing around the White House issuing royal commands about anything that pops into his head?
 

[massadvj]

Interesting.  I can think of several figures of historic proportions who possessed those same characteristics - and another who currently lives in DC.

If you mean Obama, I don't consider him particularly intelligent.  He has what I would call "semantic intelligence" in that he can talk a decent game, but he is extremely shallow in his ability to calculate and strategize.  Obama does have charisma and no scruples, however.

[aligncare]

We have an "American Idol" electorate.   They Are looking for entertainment.

Yep, that's the political environment in which we find ourselves.  Of course, it's more ominous than just that.  The backdrop Obama and his socialist ilk try to install is a dangerous philosophy that's been tried many times before and in each case has lead only to human misery and death.

[ladybug]

It's too early to start making predictions.  Romney has to be considered the underdog, based on money and the electoral college.  In truth, no one in the establishment thought any Republican could beat OPapaDoc in 2012, which is one reason our field of candidates was so weak.  Romney was the establishment's choice because he was the "safest" guy to head the ticket while the party tried to get the senate and hold the house.

SO TELL US, VICTOR, ARE YOU GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM???

[aligncare]

With all due respect, ladybug, in America everyone has the absolute right to be dead wrong when exercising their right of conscience in the voting booth.  This is just one example of it.

[massadvj]

SO TELL US, VICTOR, ARE YOU GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM???

LB, at this moment the answer is no.  That could change if Pennsylvania becomes competitive, and depending on how Romney campaigns.  Funny thing is, I don't want or expect Romney to run a conservative campaign.  I wouldn't find him credible if he did.  I actually think he may have a better chance of getting my vote if he puts Condi Rice on the ticket and reels in enough suburban women to get within the margin of error in my state.  At that point, I'd have to make the calculation that my denying him my vote could have the effect of helping OPapaDoc.  But so long as Pennsylvania stays firm Obama territory, I feel no ethical dilemma in not voting for Romney.

I will be very active in trying to deny Obama re-election, of that you can be certain.  For example, I will make many more videos mocking OPapaDoc and liberals.  But specifically promoting and supporting Romney?  I just can't go there.  At least not yet.

[andy58-in-nh]

I wouldn't take too much stock in Rove.  Romney has gone from ahead to behind in VA and FL.  Obama is pulling away in OH.  PA is nearly out of reach.  Rove knows this, but prefers to look at the national picture where Romney's numbers reflect his improvement in places he was going to win anyway, while Obama improves his position in the battleground states.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/va/virginia_romney_vs_obama-1774.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/oh/ohio_romney_vs_obama-1860.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/fl/florida_romney_vs_obama-1883.html

Please relax. The polls that you cite are flat out WRONG.

Why?

Because they assume a Democrat advantage of between 7 and 9 percentage points in party affiliation among likely voters.

In order to believe that, you would have to believe that the 2012 race will attract an even higher turnout among Democrat core constituencies than occurred in 2008 (when Democrats enjoyed a 7-point advantage in the "Hope and Change" era).
 
Do you really believe that to be the case this year? Who is more motivated to vote in 2012 - Republicans or Democrats? As for Independent (unaffiliated) voters - do you think they will be more or less likely this year to endorse Barack Obama after having lived through and seen the results of his first term?

In reality, Republican and Democrat turnout is far more likely to mirror 2010 than 2012.

So, please -relax. But still: get everyone you know who might be so inclined to register and vote to save America from a second Obama term.