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« on: June 27, 2012, 07:00:58 PM »
From USA Carry- http://www.usacarry.com/holster/

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Every citizen who chooses to carry a firearm for self-defense should have the right tools for the job. The concealed carry handgun is no different than choosing the right tool for the right job. When making the decision to purchase that handgun for self defense remember the accessories and training that go along with the handgun will make a complete weapons system which works for you. When shopping for a handgun, remember the criteria in this section (operational, hand size, preferences, and budget). I recommend a minimum caliber for self-defense of .38 Special and 9mm. Some selection factors would include:

Gun Fit to the hand
Grip size for length and width, trigger to web distance, positioning of components and other ergonomics. Together the shooter should be able to shoot one handed.

Controllable
For precision slow fire and rapid, multiple, aimed shots in short duration. Part of this will be due to stance and training, but part of it has a lot to do with the design of the handgun, especially versus the caliber and load of ammunition being used. The idea is to get on target fast and stay on target. On handed shooting with defensive ammo loads should be done if possible to evaluate how controllable the handgun would be for a situation.

Point Ability
The handgun must point as an extension of the lower arm. With the handgun high and firm in the hand, and with a locked wrist, you should be able to quickly bring the gun up to eye level and be looking at the sights with little or no adjustments. You should be able to do this one handed and two handed.

Accuracy
For a defensive purposes and optimum distance the handgun must provide acceptable accuracy. Choosing a match grade handgun is not necessary. Most major manufactures produce a wide variety of models, which have high standards of accuracy in their designs of defensive weapons.

Reliability
A defensive handgun should be reliable out of the box; if the weapon proves to be unreliable it would defeat its purpose even if it met all of the criteria needed for a concealed carry handgun. It generally takes years for a manufacturer to get a model design right so keep this in mind when a new model comes out you are interested in.

Size and Weight
You will have to decide between the size and weight for your need for concealment, defensive needs, and mode you would carry the handgun in. Some handguns are just too light or small to be controlled easily with full power defensive ammunition, while others are so large that they either will expose more easily or will cost the owner extra effort and money to achieve the needed concealment. A heavy gun, if not worn correctly or with the wrong type of equipment, will be difficult to conceal and uncomfortable to carry.

Cost
When choosing a defensive handgun you will have a budget in mind. Remember it is easier to take the extra time while shopping and compare all the available models. If possible and you have access to ether borrow or rent a similar model and try shooting it before buying it to see if the weapon fits you and is comfortable to shoot along with meeting the suggested elements for defensive concealed carry. This is no place to cut corners or settle, in the end you do get what you pay for.

For defensive purposes there are some further considerations.

Consider a complete weapons system will include spare magazines or speed loaders, holster(s) with magazine pouch and belt, and other accessories. Your defensive system may increase beyond a handgun to include defensive sprays, tactical flashlight, and other items. Other costs could include prepaid legal self-defense insurance, handgun permits, storage containers, and spare magazines. It is not recommended to buy after market (non-manufacturers) magazines, due to reliability issues. It is possible to spend twice the cost of your defensive handgun in these areas combined.

Remember if you cannot afford to be without proper means of defending yourself, then you cannot afford to have the wrong weapon or be cheap when it comes to acquiring the right tools that may be used to save your life!

Factors on what handguns you may have to choose from may depend on what is legal to own in your state, some states such as CA, MA, NJ, MD, and others may have place restrictions on what you can legally own and poses in a handgun. Some states will have additional safety requirements on the design, and possible limits on magazine capacities.

The following manufactures have been known to produce at least one or more defensive handgun.

Smith & Wesson
Colt
Glock USA
FN (FNH, USA)
Heckler & Koch USA
Beretta USA
Kimber
Steyr USA
Sigarms USA
Browning
Springfield Armory
Paraordnance
Kahr Arms



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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2012, 09:37:24 PM »
I'm moving from the other thread where you said:

"I don't know about your State, but in ours, if you conceal qualify with a revolver, you are only licensed to carry a revolver. If you qualify with a semi-auto, you are licensed to carry a semi-auto or revolver. Something to take into consideration when buying. "

That is a point that I had not thought of & will check on.  I would rather be licensed to carry either.  Thanks!
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2012, 08:28:27 AM »
Here's a forum you may find helpful: http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/forum.php
Lots of talk there about the various state laws and helpful info about concealed or open carry. I also joined a Facebook group for my state that supports open carry (not that I want to go around with a pistol on my hip, necessarily, but the posters are very knowledgable about legal requirements and are quick to answer questions), which is called West Virginia Citizens Defense League. There may be similar groups for your states.
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2012, 10:22:26 AM »
I have multiple carry guns from a Mauser HSC in .380 to a S&W Mountain Gun in 45 Colt.  Also have and use should rigs for Kahr K9, and Colt LWT commander in 45 ACP.  Depends on where I am and what I'm doing.  The big guys are woods guns that will hopefully help to save dog from predator attack.
"Obama has made numerous attempts to quote Lincoln, SO WHY DOESN'T OBAMA USE THIS FAMOUS LINCOLN QUOTE:

"You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves."
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2012, 10:47:08 AM »
I have multiple carry guns from a Mauser HSC in .380 to a S&W Mountain Gun in 45 Colt.  Also have and use should rigs for Kahr K9, and Colt LWT commander in 45 ACP.  Depends on where I am and what I'm doing.  The big guys are woods guns that will hopefully help to save dog from predator attack.

There's a nice review of your .45 S&W here: http://gunblast.com/SW-25Mountain.htm

When walking in the woods with my dog, I carry a compact .45ACP (ten rounds of Hornaday critical defense hollow points in a double-stack configuration) and a spare mag, just in case we run across one of the big cats that prowl around these parts.
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2012, 05:40:25 PM »
That is an enjoyable article.  The one I have is stainless as our my Model of 1988 in .45 acp and Lew Horton 624 in .44 spl with factory changed 4 inch barrel (the three is in the box).   Yes I like the .45 compacts too and we have seen cats in our area although wolves and "song dogs" are the concern.  I rarely shoot at birds anymore and only if in flight but we (dogs) are addicted to walking the woods in the fall.  A walking stick is a must as feet are slow and bounce back gone.
mc :patriot:
"Obama has made numerous attempts to quote Lincoln, SO WHY DOESN'T OBAMA USE THIS FAMOUS LINCOLN QUOTE:

"You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves."
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