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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #751 on: October 09, 2020, 11:57:57 PM »
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #752 on: October 13, 2020, 05:40:07 AM »
I had an OOBE dream of a rogue AI. Danged nightmare.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #753 on: October 13, 2020, 12:38:06 PM »
I had an OOBE dream of a rogue AI. Danged nightmare.

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Just be grateful it was an OOBE.
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #754 on: October 13, 2020, 08:19:56 PM »
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Just be grateful it was an OOBE.

The way things are going it won't be one of these nights.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #755 on: October 15, 2020, 09:02:51 AM »
‘Machines set loose to slaughter’: the dangerous rise of military AI

by Frank Pasquale Thu 15 Oct 2020 01.00 EDT

Autonomous machines capable of deadly force are increasingly prevalent in modern warfare, despite numerous ethical concerns. Is there anything we can do to halt the advance of the killer robots?

The video is stark. Two menacing men stand next to a white van in a field, holding remote controls. They open the van’s back doors, and the whining sound of quadcopter drones crescendos. They flip a switch, and the drones swarm out like bats from a cave. In a few seconds, we cut to a college classroom. The killer robots flood in through windows and vents. The students scream in terror, trapped inside, as the drones attack with deadly force. The lesson that the film, Slaughterbots, is trying to impart is clear: tiny killer robots are either here or a small technological advance away. Terrorists could easily deploy them. And existing defences are weak or nonexistent

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #756 on: October 15, 2020, 09:58:05 AM »
‘Machines set loose to slaughter’: the dangerous rise of military AI

by Frank Pasquale Thu 15 Oct 2020 01.00 EDT

Autonomous machines capable of deadly force are increasingly prevalent in modern warfare, despite numerous ethical concerns. Is there anything we can do to halt the advance of the killer robots?

The video is stark. Two menacing men stand next to a white van in a field, holding remote controls. They open the van’s back doors, and the whining sound of quadcopter drones crescendos. They flip a switch, and the drones swarm out like bats from a cave. In a few seconds, we cut to a college classroom. The killer robots flood in through windows and vents. The students scream in terror, trapped inside, as the drones attack with deadly force. The lesson that the film, Slaughterbots, is trying to impart is clear: tiny killer robots are either here or a small technological advance away. Terrorists could easily deploy them. And existing defences are weak or nonexistent

More at link.

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This is a true danger... something new that could conceivably find station anywhere in the sun to recharge, that could indeed be instructed specifically or in swarm, or being specifically instructed, could call forth a swarm.

these little things are far more insidious than something large that can only remain on-target for a while.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #757 on: October 15, 2020, 07:56:00 PM »
This is a true danger... something new that could conceivably find station anywhere in the sun to recharge, that could indeed be instructed specifically or in swarm, or being specifically instructed, could call forth a swarm.

these little things are far more insidious than something large that can only remain on-target for a while.

They outlawed cluster bombs.

Gonna be a new wave of bannings. I mean it unthinkable to have weapons systems that can kill enmass without oversight. Hindsight is no excuse here.


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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #758 on: October 15, 2020, 08:23:20 PM »
They outlawed cluster bombs.

Gonna be a new wave of bannings. I mean it unthinkable to have weapons systems that can kill enmass without oversight. Hindsight is no excuse here.

Right. But I don't think they will... The idea of your pilots sitting in their home town raining hell down on some distant country has a massive attraction. Sure you might lose some hardware, but your soldier cannot be hurt... Imagine when they do the same for boots on the ground. It will be sold as force protection first... and then the automation will take over.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #759 on: October 15, 2020, 08:38:37 PM »
Right. But I don't think they will... The idea of your pilots sitting in their home town raining hell down on some distant country has a massive attraction. Sure you might lose some hardware, but your soldier cannot be hurt... Imagine when they do the same for boots on the ground. It will be sold as force protection first... and then the automation will take over.

What happens when the enemy figures out where you are in your hometown raining hell, based on hacked IPs and stuff?  The soldier can be hurt, along with his family in Heartland, IA.
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #760 on: October 15, 2020, 08:39:53 PM »
What happens when the enemy figures out where you are in your hometown raining hell, based on hacked IPs and stuff?  The soldier can be hurt, along with his family in Heartland, IA.

And so it goes.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #761 on: October 15, 2020, 08:44:08 PM »
What happens when the enemy figures out where you are in your hometown raining hell, based on hacked IPs and stuff?  The soldier can be hurt, along with his family in Heartland, IA.

Yeah. The Fires of He!! will take you.

That is the entire point here. When tech becomes the enemy.

"We are ruled by TV"   Jim Morrison

Prophetic? Maybe someone smart enough to add.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #762 on: October 15, 2020, 09:10:28 PM »
"We are ruled by TV"   Jim Morrison

Prophetic? Maybe someone smart enough to add.

Funny that. In occult circles a black mirror is an important thing for portals to dark gods to receive instruction/

Now you got one you look into every night. and another in your pocket. And another in your bedroom...

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #763 on: October 15, 2020, 09:20:50 PM »
What happens when the enemy figures out where you are in your hometown raining hell, based on hacked IPs and stuff?  The soldier can be hurt, along with his family in Heartland, IA.

That's why you airgap the drone's network rather than stream it on the internet.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #764 on: October 15, 2020, 09:22:55 PM »
That's why you airgap the drone's network rather than stream it on the internet.

Is airgap one of those fish out of water things?

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #765 on: October 15, 2020, 09:54:04 PM »
Funny that. In occult circles a black mirror is an important thing for portals to dark gods to receive instruction/

Now you got one you look into every night. and another in your pocket. And another in your bedroom...

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #766 on: October 15, 2020, 09:59:38 PM »
They can't see me.

Don't be too sure...

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #767 on: October 15, 2020, 10:12:59 PM »
 ****sheep****
Is airgap one of those fish out of water things?

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Huh? I thought it had something to do with string bikinis and a "Brazilian cut".
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #768 on: October 15, 2020, 10:17:45 PM »
Don't be too sure...

Let me rephrase. They can see, but have no access.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #769 on: October 15, 2020, 10:20:59 PM »
****sheep****
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Huh? I thought it had something to do with string bikinis and a "Brazilian cut".

Nah. Not cut. Wax on. Wax off.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #770 on: October 15, 2020, 11:08:42 PM »
Nah. Not cut. Wax on. Wax off.

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Rub on,Rub off?
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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #771 on: October 16, 2020, 12:02:17 AM »
Let me rephrase. They can see, but have no access.

That's more likely.... 

But remember, the 'anti' as in 'anti-christ' means 'alternate to'... not necessarily 'against'.

It's the distraction that will get you.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #772 on: October 16, 2020, 09:11:34 PM »
That's more likely.... 

But remember, the 'anti' as in 'anti-christ' means 'alternate to'... not necessarily 'against'.

It's the distraction that will get you.

Which is the Luddite in me. Everything you need in this life has been provided.

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #773 on: October 17, 2020, 12:07:26 AM »
They just reinvented the wheel

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Re: They Asked if People Would Rather Kill a Human or a Sentient Robot
« Reply #774 on: October 17, 2020, 12:42:51 AM »
A human being from conception is being fed a constant data stream.


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