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Tesla increases Supercharging prices to the point that gas might be cheaper
thackney:
Tesla increases Supercharging prices to the point that gas might be cheaper
https://www.techspot.com/news/78366-tesla-increases-supercharging-prices-point-gas-might-cheaper.html
1/21/2019
One of the benefits of electric vehicles was supposed to be that driving around would cost less per mile. When factoring in the price of current electric vehicles versus the cost of less expensive cars with internal combustion engines, this has yet to prove true. Tesla has drastically raised prices at its Supercharging stations that might make charging their vehicles more expensive than refueling at a regular gas station.
Tesla recently announced the end of its referral program that granted a limited time period of free charging, citing it to be too expensive to continue. All Tesla vehicles sold after November 2018 must pay for access to Supercharging stations. Going forward, the vast majority of Tesla owners will be paying for fast charging when they are not at home.
In the state of New York, pricing was increased by 33 percent up to $0.32/kWh. California rates are now between $0.32 and $0.36/kWh. These rates are significantly higher than what consumers in the same areas would pay at home. However, the main expense that must be accounted for is fast charging. Most homes are not wired to handle 120kW chargers, which are likely not cheap to set up....
Frank Cannon:
Going forward, the vast majority of Tesla owners will be paying for fast charging when they are not at home.
They'll be paying for it at home too unless they are stealing electricity from their neighbors.
DB:
--- Quote from: Amb. Frank Cannon on January 21, 2019, 09:06:40 pm ---Going forward, the vast majority of Tesla owners will be paying for fast charging when they are not at home.
They'll be paying for it at home too unless they are stealing electricity from their neighbors.
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They can't "fast charge" at any normal home. A typical home electrical service is 200 Amps which is 48 kW. It would take a 500 Amp panel to get to 120 kW and that leaves nothing for the home. My last home had a 600 Amp service (and no Tesla) but that's another story...
thackney:
--- Quote from: DB on January 21, 2019, 09:12:09 pm ---They can't "fast charge" at any normal home. A typical home electrical service is 200 Amps which is 48 kW. It would take a 500 Amp panel to get to 120 kW and that leaves nothing for the home. My last home had a 600 Amp service (and no Tesla) but that's another story...
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I believe the Tesla Superchargers require 480V 3 Phase.
https://electrek.co/2018/04/05/tesla-urban-supercharger-look-inside/
https://teslatap.com/articles/supercharger-superguide/
DB:
--- Quote from: thackney on January 21, 2019, 09:21:44 pm ---I believe the Tesla Superchargers require 480V 3 Phase.
https://electrek.co/2018/04/05/tesla-urban-supercharger-look-inside/
https://teslatap.com/articles/supercharger-superguide/
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Thanks for the info. That makes it even more unlikely for a residential fast charger. Few residential areas have 3 phase as far as I know. Commercial, industrial or farming areas are about it then. 480 V makes sense so the current/wire sizes aren't so extreme.
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