‘MORE media lies’: Looks like there’s a whole lot MORE to story about Catholic students ‘harassing’

[Smokin Joe]

And, shame on those who bought into it.

THis must be one of those situations where being a Democrat takes precedence over being Native American. All the Native people I have known, and that includes quite a few, are ardent supporters of life, not abortion.

It would fly in the face of American Indian convention to not see each baby as precious, to not value that life.

There is something here I just don't get.

[Smokin Joe]

It's too bad the Right to Life activists and protesters surrounding the drum-beater have no self-awareness.  At least not enough to see how a defiant mob of chanting and laughing MAGA hats around a single old man of color looks.

It is too bad that both did not recognize the common ground that life is precious.

[XenaLee]

THis must be one of those situations where being a Democrat takes precedence over being Native American. All the Native people I have known, and that includes quite a few, are ardent supporters of life, not abortion.

It would fly in the face of American Indian convention to not see each baby as precious, to not value that life.

There is something here I just don't get.

Exactly right.   Revering nature and everything the "great spirit" (God, IOW) created is part of NA culture.  It flys in the face of that culture for them to support Democrats who push for abortions.   I liken it to how it applies to American Jews.   They are Jews (and/or Native American) dead last....

but first and foremost they are leftist Democrats.  That's how powerful the evil that has overtaken them is.

[Smokin Joe]

@mystery-ak

Phillips is NOT a VN veteran. He is too young to have been sent to VN.

I have no doubt he has hundreds of war stories he can tell about it,though.

Not too young, though his crop would have been about the time Nixon shut down the draft. I'm 2 years younger, and guys just a little older than me were inducted or enlisted. SO he could have been there, but it doesn't mean he was. Is there any way to verify his military service, or if this is stolen valor?

[Smokin Joe]

@berdie

He is 64. The US military pulled all combat troops but some Special Operations guys out of VN in March of 1973. This gomer is now 64,which means he was born in 1955,and was only 20 when the last conventional troops were pulled out in 1975. Which ALSO means he was only 14 years old in 1967,which,IIRC,is the year the US government stopped sending 17 year olds to VN,and only 18 when the US stopped sending combat troops to VN . By that time the few troops they were sending were experienced NCO's and officers,not 18  year old idiots with no experience. In fact,they really cut back on the numbers there were sending before 1973 because the decision had already been made to pull the troops.

BTW,I know it had to have been 1967 when the army came up with the rule that no 17 year olds could serve in VN because one of them was pulled from VN and sent to the unit I was in on Okinawa because they thought he was 17. They found out he was only 14 or 15 while there,and that he had lied about his age and gotten his senile grandmother to sign a statement saying he was 17 so he could enlist when he was just 13. So....,there he was attached to a Special Forces unit on Okinawa,only 14 or 15 years old,and had already been wounded in combat and had a Purple Heart,a Bronze Star with Valor award,and a Combat Infantryman's badge. What happened is the army notified his hometown newspaper in Ky that young PFC Shaunessy had been wounded in combat,received a couple of medals,and was on Okinawa while recovering from wounds. People at home freaked when they saw that,and notified the army. ZOOM! He was gone in the blink of an eye.

PROBABLY what happened is Chief Bullshitter was determined to be a VN ERA vet by the VA,and he dropped the "Era" tag and just called himself a VN vet. VN ERA vets were people who were just in the US Military in VN. They could have been stationed in Alaska,or Oklahoma.

 It surprises people,but 90 percent of the US Military members that were sent to VN never heard a shot fired. Clerks,truck drivers,cooks,supply people,hospital orderlies,finance clerks,etc,etc,etc. There were many,MANY enlisted soldiers that went to VN who went to work every day in dress uniforms and never handled a weapon the whole time they were there.

Good explanation about the deployments there.
I recall the RIF going on, and didn't graduate until '74--by then guys weren't going there and I had a chance to go to college and went that way (back when it was still a respectable thing to do among working folks).
Yes about the last, one of the guys I still respect said he was just a telephone operator in Saigon, never fired a weapon in anger. He didn't bullshit people, he just went over, did his job, and came home, and made no bones about it, rather than shine people on about nights in the jungle on OP or on a firebase.

[Bigun]

We need this headline: Professional Protestor Preys on School Children.

@goodwithagun

An honest headline??? Are you on drugs?

[sneakypete]

Not too young, though his crop would have been about the time Nixon shut down the draft. I'm 2 years younger, and guys just a little older than me were inducted or enlisted. SO he could have been there, but it doesn't mean he was. Is there any way to verify his military service, or if this is stolen valor?

@Smokin Joe

Sure,it can be verified if you have his full legal name and SS number. Not really worth the trouble,though. I strongly suspect what you would find is that he was drafted in 1973,which was the year they stopped sending troops to VN,and is a Viet Nam ERA veteran. After all,if he was drafted in 1973 the decision to stop sending troops to VN had already been made,and by the time he graduated from basic and MOS training the VN war would be over for draftees. Even though US ground combat participation ended in 1973,the VN War wasn't considered to be over until the North took over South Viet Nam in 1975. Thus the whole "Era" thingie. Which is not the same as being a VN vet,but close enough for the left when trying to make a point out of a lie.

BTW,yes,there WERE some soldiers getting orders to go to VN and work jobs where there was a high likelyhood of them getting into combat after 1973,but these were people with high skill sets developed from years of training and doing,NOT a draftee with maybe 6 months of training including basic training.  For example,the Special Forces guys sent there took off their berets and in some cases didn't even wear US uniforms. There were also US pilots flying observation and occasional combat missions. They were all volunteers. Not a draftee in the bunch.

[Bigun]

@Smokin Joe

Sure,it can be verified if you have his full legal name and SS number. Not really worth the trouble,though. I strongly suspect what you would find is that he was drafted in 1973,which was the year they stopped sending troops to VN,and is a Viet Nam ERA veteran. After all,if he was drafted in 1973 the decision to stop sending troops to VN had already been made,and by the time he graduated from basic and MOS training the VN war would be over for draftees. Even though US ground combat participation ended in 1973,the VN War wasn't considered to be over until the North took over South Viet Nam in 1975. Thus the whole "Era" thingie. Which is not the same as being a VN vet,but close enough for the left when trying to make a point out of a lie.

BTW,yes,there WERE some soldiers getting orders to go to VN and work jobs where there was a high likelyhood of them getting into combat after 1973,but these were people with high skill sets developed from years of training and doing,NOT a draftee with maybe 6 months of training including basic training.  For example,the Special Forces guys sent there took off their berets and in some cases didn't even wear US uniforms. There were also US pilots flying observation and occasional combat missions. They were all volunteers. Not a draftee in the bunch.

I'm with @sneakypete on this one!  The only way someone that age "served" in Vietnam was as a crewman on a MACV flight that was in and out in a hurry.

[txradioguy]

Classic example of what happens when you latch onto the story you want to hear...instead of the story that actually happened. Reporters and social media trolls were in such a hurry with their racist slant on this incident they completely steam rolled the truth. Thankfully there were people there who recorded the entire incident so the whole truth will now be known.

[goodwithagun]

I'm with @sneakypete on this one!  The only way someone that age "served" in Vietnam was as a crewman on a MACV flight that was in and out in a hurry.

Somebody has already broken this down and created a timeline: https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/01/21/doesnt-really-add-up-tweeps-thread-on-nathan-phillips-claims-of-vietnam-service-will-make-you-go-hmmmmm/

[Bigun]

Somebody has already broken this down and created a timeline: https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/01/21/doesnt-really-add-up-tweeps-thread-on-nathan-phillips-claims-of-vietnam-service-will-make-you-go-hmmmmm/

@goodwithagun

Thanks for the link.  Good to know that others are on to this lying POS!

[Cyber Liberty]

To me, it looks like it looks.

There are days the description of the Platte River matches your posts.

(Mile wide, inch deep.)

[XenaLee]

There are days the description of the Platte River matches your posts.

(Mile wide, inch deep.)

The key concept being....

looks are deceiving. 

Some folks here seem rather quick to jump on the leftist side of an issue and cheer against the right side (pun intended).   

[truth_seeker]

The fake, biased crooked media FAILED to point out the blacks, that got away without mention of their horrible behavior.

[txradioguy]

The fake, biased crooked media FAILED to point out the blacks, that got away without mention of their horrible behavior.

Yeah that's a new group I'd never heard of.  The sound like a Black Jewish BLM...and what they were saying was just as vile and hateful.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

There are days the description of the Platte River matches your posts.

(Mile wide, inch deep.)

Oh Damn.  I'm an Average American.   The difference is I spend the time to learn beyond my mile wide inch deep opinion.  If the GOP can't explain their 2 inch deep pro-Injun bullying position in half the time they might as well quit...because the GOP has not earned my support and most the media ain't playing the unedited video.

Injun drummer won

[verga]

BKMK

[mountaineer]

Incredible.  After the bullying allegations have been thoroughly disproven,  some people still mindlessly invoke them.

[bigheadfred]

Incredible.  After the bullying allegations have been thoroughly disproven,  some people still mindlessly invoke them.

It is kind of like watching a dead horse beat itself.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Incredible.  After the bullying allegations have been thoroughly disproven,  some people still mindlessly invoke them.

I'm not invoking it.  I'm saying that blogs on freedomboner.gun ain't reaching the voters.

[Bigun]

Incredible.  After the bullying allegations have been thoroughly disproven,  some people still mindlessly invoke them.

Ever see the movie "Groundhog Day"?

[mountaineer]

I'm not invoking it.  I'm saying that blogs on freedomboner.gun ain't reaching the voters.

I wasn't referring to you, but I guess this could be one of those "if the shoe fits" moments.

[Sanguine]

It is kind of like watching a dead horse beat itself.

Good one, Fred.   

[Wingnut]

It is kind of like watching a dead horse beat itself.

That would take 2 hoofs working very carefully..

[RoosGirl]

Oh Damn.  I'm an Average American.   The difference is I spend the time to learn beyond my mile wide inch deep opinion.  If the GOP can't explain their 2 inch deep pro-Injun bullying position in half the time they might as well quit...because the GOP has not earned my support and most the media ain't playing the unedited video.

Injun drummer won

And the "injun drummer" will keep winning when folks like you automatically place the white hood on anyone wearing a maga hat.... or was that sarcasm?