Trump says he's pushing for steel barrier instead of concrete wall amid standoff with Dems

[corbe]

Trump says he's pushing for steel barrier instead of concrete wall amid standoff with Dems

By Brett Samuels  - 01/06/19 03:31 PM EST 

President Trump said Sunday that he's instructed officials in his administration to push for a steel barrier along the southern border rather than concrete wall amid an ongoing standoff with Democrats over the structure.

"We've been in touch with a lot of people and i informed my folks to say that we'll build a steel barrier, steel, that it will be made out of steel, that it will be less obtrusive and stronger," Trump told reporters at the White House upon returning from Camp David.

Trump said steel would "give us great strength," and suggested that Democrats opposed a concrete barrier.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/424080-trump-says-hes-pushing-for-steel-barrier-instead-of-concrete-wall-at

[corbe]

   By Valentines Day (if this is still going on) we'll be down to this (and the Trumpers will proclaim how wondrous it is).

[Smokin Joe]

Better go with concrete, or they will steal the wall and sell it for scrap.

[ABX]

So what was already passed and is already being build via the secure fence act.

[DCPatriot]

 I don't care what it's made of...so long as it's centered on a 20 ft wide moat stocked with alligators

[Machiavelli]

   By Valentines Day (if this is still going on) we'll be down to this (and the Trumpers will proclaim how wondrous it is).

[sneakypete]

Steel is ok,but concrete is better. I doubt the muckity-mucks in congress have given this any thought,but people can easily climb steel walls if they strap magnets to their hands and feet.

And,of course,the answer to this is pressure sensitive pads that turn on the electricity.

Still,it adds to the cost.

Concrete would be better,which is why the Dims oppose it.

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[Elderberry]

Steel is ok,but concrete is better. I doubt the muckity-mucks in congress have given this any thought,but people can easily climb steel walls if they strap magnets to their hands and feet.

If they just strap those magnets to their hands and feet and try to climb a steel fence without some sort of lever releases on those magnets, they'll just be stuck on the walls.

Some outfit will have to make a whole lot of magnetic climbers for them.

[edpc]

   By Valentines Day (if this is still going on) we'll be down to this (and the Trumpers will proclaim how wondrous it is).

Well, we know the southern side of it will look good. All the landscapers are on that side.

[libertybele]

I don't care what it's made of...so long as it's centered on a 20 ft wide moat stocked with alligators

Aligators and one side, drones flying overhead and a mine field on the other side .... that ought to do it!

[sneakypete]

If they just strap those magnets to their hands and feet and try to climb a steel fence without some sort of lever releases on those magnets, they'll just be stuck on the walls.

Some outfit will have to make a whole lot of magnetic climbers for them.

@Elderberry

Well,yes,and no. If the wall is smooth enough,a climber with magnets could just slide them up,over,and back down.

And there have been magnets with releases made from decades. I have seen and used them myself,but can't remember what I used to them for at this late date.

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

Hard to electrify concrete.

[sneakypete]

Hard to electrify concrete.

@InHeavenThereIsNoBeer

Duhhhhhh. Good thing it's not necessary because magnetic climbing devices won't work with concrete,ain't it?

[corbe]

       So I'll put you in that category @sneakypete that thinks we'll get anything other than rhetoric for the next two years. 


       Disclaimer: I fix my own damn home and mow my own grass.

[Chosen Daughter]

   By Valentines Day (if this is still going on) we'll be down to this (and the Trumpers will proclaim how wondrous it is).

It would still beat the broken down fence we have now.  I think we probably all have seen the illegal immigrants pulling back the piece of metal and coming right in.

[Chosen Daughter]

       So I'll put you in that category @sneakypete that thinks we'll get anything other than rhetoric for the next two years. 


       Disclaimer: I fix my own damn home and mow my own grass.

I am sure it is a much better job too.

[Chosen Daughter]

Hard to electrify concrete.

Electrified steel would work.  And they can have the slats come to a sharp stake at the top.

[Emjay]

   By Valentines Day (if this is still going on) we'll be down to this (and the Trumpers will proclaim how wondrous it is).

There are no 'Trumpers' @corbe    There are NTers and rational people ... two different species altogether.

Trump mentioned Steel in his speech while referencing how he saved the steel industry.

Going from cement to steel is not downsizing.

[Chosen Daughter]

I already saw some images awhile back of new steel panels that were already rusted.

[Smokin Joe]

There are no 'Trumpers' @corbe    There are NTers and rational people ... two different species altogether.

Trump mentioned Steel in his speech while referencing how he saved the steel industry.

Going from cement to steel is not downsizing.

Steel has scrap value. Concrete does not. One is more likely to be 'scrounged'.

[libertybele]

Steel has scrap value. Concrete does not. One is more likely to be 'scrounged'.

How about steel slats reinforced with concrete?

[Smokin Joe]

How about steel slats reinforced with concrete?

Anything which makes it tougher to 'harvest' the steel...

[Emjay]

I already saw some images awhile back of new steel panels that were already rusted.

Wow @Chosen Daughter   Have you seen any other images lately?

[sneakypete]

How about steel slats reinforced with concrete?

@libertybele

You have it backwards. Steel is put into concrete forms before the pour is made to reinforce the concrete.

As for it being new and rusty,don't let that bother you. So is the steel used in bridges and ship-building. The rust can be treated.