Sen. Cruz, Rep. Rooney Propose Constitutional Amendment Which Would Severely Impact Members of Congr

[Chosen Daughter]

Sen. Cruz, Rep. Rooney Propose Constitutional Amendment Which Would Severely Impact Members of Congress



Beth Baumann 


Posted: Jan 05, 2019 8:30 AM

Sen. Ted Cruz (TX) and Rep. Francis Rooney (OK), both Republicans, introduced a Constitutional amendment on Thursday that would place term limits on members of Congress. The amendment would limit U.S. senators to two six-year terms and members of the U.S. House of Representatives to three two-year terms.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2019/01/05/sen-cruz-rep-rooney-propose-constitutional-amendment-which-would-severely-impa-n2538543

[Chosen Daughter]

overdue.

[RetBobbyMI]

If it impacts members of Congress it will never pass. It will take a Convention of States to get it to a vote of the state’s.

[Axeslinger]

If it impacts members of Congress it will never pass. It will take a Convention of States to get it to a vote of the state’s.

@RetBobbyMI

Correct...but you gotta build momentum amongst the people first.

[libertybele]

If it impacts members of Congress it will never pass. It will take a Convention of States to get it to a vote of the state’s.
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The opportunity to call a 'conservative' Convention of States  sailed long ago and now with an increase of liberal legislators it would be a huge mistake.

[RetBobbyMI]

If it impacts members of Congress it will never pass. It will take a Convention of States to get it to a vote of the state’s.
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The opportunity to call a 'conservative' Convention of States  sailed long ago and now with an increase of liberal legislators it would be a huge mistake.

Legislators cannot have a seat at a Convention of the States

[RetBobbyMI]

@RetBobbyMI

Correct...but you gotta build momentum amongst the people first.

Then starting in Congress isn’t the right move.

[libertybele]

Legislators cannot have a seat at a Convention of the States

???

A convention to propose amendments to the United States Constitution, also called an Article V Convention or amendments convention, called for by two-thirds of the state legislatures, is one of two processes authorized by Article Five of the United States Constitution whereby the United States Constitution may be altered.

[edpc]

???

I think he meant congressional legislators. In an Article V convention, the required number of states would propose and ratify the amendment, bypassing Congress. It was very close to happening in the early 20th Century, with the 17th Amendment. Rather than be embarrassed by that (new states in favor were being introduced), Congress began the process themselves.

[jmyrlefuller]

I think he meant congressional legislators. In an Article V convention, the required number of states would propose and ratify the amendment, bypassing Congress. It was very close to happening in the early 20th Century, with the 17th Amendment. Rather than be embarrassed by that (new states in favor were being introduced), Congress began the process themselves.

And right in 1969, Everett Dirksen came within one state of protecting the states' republican form of government with a Convention of States after the Warren Court decided to (impolite word) it up. Then he died, and all those legislatures the Warren Court reengineered started repealing the resolutions.

[Chosen Daughter]

I think he meant congressional legislators. In an Article V convention, the required number of states would propose and ratify the amendment, bypassing Congress. It was very close to happening in the early 20th Century, with the 17th Amendment. Rather than be embarrassed by that (new states in favor were being introduced), Congress began the process themselves.

It will certainly be interesting to see what happens with this.

[jafo2010]

Hate to pour water on your enthusiasm, but NOTHING will happen.

First off, the law is moronic.  12 years for Senators and six years for members of the House, right there is reason enough for House members to say screw that notion.  They should have written it such that it was the same number of years as a limit.  This provision is guaranteed failure. 

And I thought Cruz was smart.

[the_doc]

@RetBobbyMI

Correct...but you gotta build momentum amongst the people first.

Right.

[jpsb]

Grand standing, political theater by two phonies. Ted when will you learn to stop playing games?

[Jazzhead]

Yes, it "impacts members of Congress",  but, more to the point, artificial term limits represent a restriction on the sovereignty of the people to choose the representatives they want.

Why should I be told I cannot vote again for a representative I like and support?    Let's not just assume that voters need to be held by the hand.

Sorry, Sen. Cruz,  this bill ought to be DOA.   

[Wingnut]

I think he meant congressional legislators. In an Article V convention, the required number of states would propose and ratify the amendment, bypassing Congress. It was very close to happening in the early 20th Century, with the 17th Amendment. Rather than be embarrassed by that (new states in favor were being introduced), Congress began the process themselves.

What would the Senate look like today without the 17th Amendment?

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/what-would-senate-look-like-without-the-17th-amendment

[edpc]

What would the Senate look like today without the 17th Amendment?

The overall numbers might be better, but that doesn’t necessarily equate to quality senators. Overall numbers aren’t important, if it’s a group composed of people like McCain, Collins, and Flake. The reason why the 17th got proposed and ratified was due to corruption at the time. Candidates were buying off key state legislators to get the positions. It was thought, at the time, buying an election from the populous was less feasible. Now, they buy votes with handouts.