John Kelly, Hired To Restore Order For President Donald Trump, Is Out As Chief Of Staff

[edpc]

Well, that looks delicious! I’m about to have a lovely glass of Spanish white blend I picked up at Aldi’s. I LOVE Aldi’s wine selection this time of year!

They’re good, but I miss the home brewed Scotch Ale at Barley’s in Columbus.

[corbe]

   This could be an I.D.I.O.T. (It Deserves It's Own Thread), unfortunately I'm over my quota of 'provocative' Threads today.   

John Kelly was always doomed to fail as chief of staff

By David B. Cohen, opinion contributor — 12/08/18 06:00 PM EST   

White House chief of staff John Kelly discovered what every White House staff member should know about their job status: they serve at the pleasure of the president.

Once any chief loses the confidence of POTUS, and to a lesser extent the confidence of the rest of the White House staff, they are a dead man walking. This was true of Donald Trump’s first short-lived chief, Reince Priebus, and true of Bill Daley, President Obama’s second chief of staff. And President Trump is a reportedly difficult to work for and a mercurial person in general.

When Trump loses confidence in a subordinate, they either survive long enough for his mood to change or more likely they are gone — perhaps fired unceremoniously like Priebus, who was sacked by tweet and booted from the presidential motorcade he was supposed to ride in. The fact that Kelly is a four-star Marine Corps general — and Trump has a reverence for generals — is perhaps one reason he was able to survive as long as he did.

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https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/420416-john-kelly-was-always-doomed-to-fail-as-chief-of-staff

[Free Vulcan]

Exactly. It’s going to be a massive, draining shit show and people will tire of it and its originator, over time.

The Democrats? Nancy Pelosi?

Why do you incessantly insist this is all one sided? Trump tweets maybe a dozen times a day, countered by a sea of Dem/media sewage.

Who's the majority part of the sh** show here?

[EasyAce]

   This could be an I.D.I.O.T. (It Deserves It's Own Thread), unfortunately I'm over my quota of 'provocative' Threads today.   

@corbe

C'mon, people like us don't believe in quotas, right?

[edpc]

   This could be an I.D.I.O.T. (It Deserves It's Own Thread), unfortunately I'm over my quota of 'provocative' Threads today.   

John Kelly was always doomed to fail as chief of staff

By David B. Cohen, opinion contributor — 12/08/18 06:00 PM EST   

White House chief of staff John Kelly discovered what every White House staff member should know about their job status: they serve at the pleasure of the president.

Once any chief loses the confidence of POTUS, and to a lesser extent the confidence of the rest of the White House staff, they are a dead man walking. This was true of Donald Trump’s first short-lived chief, Reince Priebus, and true of Bill Daley, President Obama’s second chief of staff. And President Trump is a reportedly difficult to work for and a mercurial person in general.

When Trump loses confidence in a subordinate, they either survive long enough for his mood to change or more likely they are gone — perhaps fired unceremoniously like Priebus, who was sacked by tweet and booted from the presidential motorcade he was supposed to ride in. The fact that Kelly is a four-star Marine Corps general — and Trump has a reverence for generals — is perhaps one reason he was able to survive as long as he did.

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https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/420416-john-kelly-was-always-doomed-to-fail-as-chief-of-staff

Priebus was a mistake from the beginning and a compromise for the establishment wing.

[corbe]

   In fact, It could be argued that Trump's initial 'buy-in' to the GOP was bungled, cost him a crucial, early, 6 months (Preibus/Spicer in particular) .

[Chosen Daughter]

   This could be an I.D.I.O.T. (It Deserves It's Own Thread), unfortunately I'm over my quota of 'provocative' Threads today.   

John Kelly was always doomed to fail as chief of staff

By David B. Cohen, opinion contributor — 12/08/18 06:00 PM EST   

White House chief of staff John Kelly discovered what every White House staff member should know about their job status: they serve at the pleasure of the president.

Once any chief loses the confidence of POTUS, and to a lesser extent the confidence of the rest of the White House staff, they are a dead man walking. This was true of Donald Trump’s first short-lived chief, Reince Priebus, and true of Bill Daley, President Obama’s second chief of staff. And President Trump is a reportedly difficult to work for and a mercurial person in general.

When Trump loses confidence in a subordinate, they either survive long enough for his mood to change or more likely they are gone — perhaps fired unceremoniously like Priebus, who was sacked by tweet and booted from the presidential motorcade he was supposed to ride in. The fact that Kelly is a four-star Marine Corps general — and Trump has a reverence for generals — is perhaps one reason he was able to survive as long as he did.

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https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/420416-john-kelly-was-always-doomed-to-fail-as-chief-of-staff

Trump explains his problem of choosing the wrong people.  Watch Trump explain the problem "They choke like dogs"

https://start.att.net/player/category/news/article/cnn-trump_some_gop_candidates_choke_like_dogs-cnn2

[montanajoe]

I'm always NT but sad for our County to see this, Kelly was the consummate ringmaster of the three ring Trump circus..

Seems we will be doing 1973-1974 all over again...

[DB]

Kelly is likely grateful he's getting out before the next storm hits.

[edpc]

Kelly is likely grateful he's getting out before the next storm hits.

I’d expect Sanders to be right behind him.

[Applewood]

I'm always NT but sad for our County to see this, Kelly was the consummate ringmaster of the three ring Trump circus..

Seems we will be doing 1973-1974 all over again...

Kelly wasn't really allowed to do his job.  And despite Trump's niceties (i.e., Kelly is a good guy), I'm willing to bet Trump was the one who frustrated Kelly's efforts and may have been the source behind all the nastiness and rumors about him in the media

[Right_in_Virginia]

I’d expect Sanders to be right behind him.

You don't suspect shit, that she would be leaving after the midterms has been in the news for months.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Kelly wasn't really allowed to do his job. 

How do you know this?  Do tell @Applewood

[austingirl]

For those who seem to care about such things, the shortest-lasting White House chief of staff was Pete Rouse, who lasted from the beginning of the 2010 baseball postseason to the near-beginning of 2011 spring training for Barack Obama. (OK, that's a slight joke.) Actually, he served 104 days. James Baker didn't last that much longer as George H.W. Bush's chief of staff--150 days, up to and including the day Bush's presidency ended. And the third-shortest tenure? Rinse Platypus with Donaldus Minimus. (150 days.)

The ascending time-served list from there goes as follows, with the presidents in question in parentheses and the number of days to follow; the Chris Bermanisms (what the hey, we got to have some fun!) are mine:

Kenneth Duberstein (Ronald Reagan)--203
Jack (Elementary, My Dear) Watson (Jimmy Carter)--223
Samuel (Mule) Skinner (George H.W. Bush)--251
James R. Jones (Lyndon B. Johnson)--269
Hamilton (Beach) Jordan (Jimmy Carter)--329
Jack Lew (Barack Obama)--359
Bill Daley (Barack Obama)--379
Donald (Yo Ho Ho and a Bottle of) Rumsfeld (George W. Bush)--425
Dick Cheney (Gerald Ford)--427
Howard (The Butcher, the) Baker (Ronald Reagan)--490
John F. Kelly (Donald Trump)--495
Alexander Haig (& Haig Scotch) (Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford)--505
Mack (the Knife) McLarty (Bill Clinton)--543
Rahm Emanuel (Barack Obama)--619
Erskine (Finger) Bowles (Bill Clinton)--638
Donald Regan (Ronald Reagan)--753
John Podesta (Bill Clinton)--823
Wilton (Missing) Persons (Dwight Eisenhower)--836
Leon Panetta (Bill Clinton)--918
Joshua (Nuts and) Bolten (George W. Bush)--1,012
Kenneth O'Donnell (John F. Kennedy)--1,036
John (Here Comes the) Sununu (George H.W. Bush)--1,060
Marvin (Kilo) Watson (Lyndon B. Johnson)--1,180
Denis (the Menace) McDonough (Barack Obama)--1,461
James Baker (Ronald Reagan)--1,476
H.R. Haldeman (Richard Nixon)--1,561
Andrew (Hallmark) Card (George W. Bush)--1,910
Sherman (Tank) Adams (Dwight Eisenhower)--2,086
John (U.S.) Steelman (Harry S. Truman)--2,231

Incidentally, if you're keeping score at home, the foregoing indicates that Obama leads the league with having had five White House chiefs of staff.  Clinton is tied with Reagan for a close second with four. G.H.W.B. pulls right up behind with three, in a dead heat with Nixon, Ford, and the Right Reverend Dr. Jimmy Sol Hargis. President Tweety (so far) is tied with G.W.B., L.B.J. and Ike for two. J.F.K. had but one.

I thought John Kelly was a good man in a not-so-great position, myself. It must have been more than painful for him to deal with the president's continuing apparent disparagement of a Cabinet secretary he's considered a close confidante, Homeland Security secretary Kirstjen Nielsen.

On the other hand, based on this photograph, Kelly gives you an idea of how NCIS star Mark Harmon would look if Harmon should lose his hair . . .

[XenaLee]

WASHINGTON – Former White House chief of staff John Kelly, who was assigned to bring a level of discipline to President Donald Trump’s often chaotic administration, is leaving the post after months of internal tensions frequently spilled into public view, Trump said Saturday.

"John Kelly will be leaving toward the end of the year,” the president told reporters as he left the White House for the Army-Navy game in Philadelphia.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/08/john-kelly-out-donald-trump-chief-staff/339220002/

Yeah... well.... here's the thing.  I would much rather have someone leave a job they're not happy with or be coerced into leaving if their performance isn't satisfactory.... than stay in the job and muck things up even more due to not being cut out for the position.   I'm just funny that way.  Therefore.... I don't see this as a big deal.... the "hire only the best" aside.

[Right_in_Virginia]

   That is TRUE @Right_in_Virginia but you also are tough to argue with due specifically to your close mindness concerning anything #MAGA.   Maybe with the dems running the house you'll reposition your artillery fire on them and leave us Conservatives alone for a couple of years, though doubtful.

I will not go gently on those who root for the President's removal, especially when masquerading as a Republican and/or Conservative. @corbe    It's unreasonable for you to expect me to water down my rebuttals against such an insidious political enemy.

As for conservatives in general, all they have to do is stop preaching and start doing --- and recognize if they work to bring down the President, I will return the efforts in kind.   

[Oceander]

I will not go gently on those who root for the President's removal, especially when masquerading as a Republican and/or Conservative. @corbe    It's unreasonable for you to expect me to water down my rebuttals against such an insidious political enemy.

As for conservatives in general, all they have to do is stop preaching and start doing --- and recognize if they work to bring down the President, I will return the efforts in kind.   

[edpc]

You don't suspect shit, that she would be leaving after the midterms has been in the news for months.

You mean the reports she's denied?

“Does @CBSNews know something I don’t about my plans and my future? I was at my daughter’s year-end Kindergarten event and they ran a story about my “plans to leave the WH” without even talking to me. I love my job and am honored to work for @POTUS,” she tweeted.

https://wtvr.com/2018/06/13/sarah-huckabee-sanders-denies-reports-of-leaving-white-house/

Also, learn the difference between 'suspect' and 'expect.'

[corbe]

   Thank You for your thoughtful reply @Right_in_Virginia but allow me to set the record straight, I have never advocated for the removal of President Trump (Pence is just as bad, IMHO). I have expressed my dismay that he was even elected but now we gotta dance with who brung us, so drink up and try to enjoy yourself.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Your point is made. 

[Right_in_Virginia]

You mean the reports she's denied?   

No.  I was trying not to say you're not clever enough or understand enough about the WH to come up with this "suspicion" on your own. 

Yeah,  that's a good plan and I think I'll stick with it.   

[edpc]

No.  I was trying not to say you're not clever enough or understand enough about the WH to come up with this "suspicion" on your own. 

Yeah,  that's a good plan and I think I'll stick with it.   

A little refresher - http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,308154.0.html

[goodwithagun]

I will not go gently on those who root for the President's removal, especially when masquerading as a Republican and/or Conservative. @corbe    It's unreasonable for you to expect me to water down my rebuttals against such an insidious political enemy.

As for conservatives in general, all they have to do is stop preaching and start doing --- and recognize if they work to bring down the President, I will return the efforts in kind.

Once again, it’s not what trump is doing it’s what he’s tweeted about. After this Tweet resurfaced I don’t want to here shit from you about it being everybody else’s fault that Trump doesn’t get a wall built. He obviously thinks the buck stops with the president.

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[Night Hides Not]

Once again, it’s not what trump is doing it’s what he’s tweeted about. After this Tweet resurfaced I don’t want to here shit from you about it being everybody else’s fault that Trump doesn’t get a wall built. He obviously thinks the buck stops with the president.

...except when it doesn't, and he passes the buck.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Once again, it’s not what trump is doing it’s what he’s tweeted about. After this Tweet resurfaced I don’t want to here shit from you about it being everybody else’s fault that Trump doesn’t get a wall built.

And @goodwithagun I don't care what you don't want to "here"   

But since you're such a know-it-all --- on everything --- do enlighten the audience on how the President can build the wall without Congress approving the funding.

Go ahead ... tell us.