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How can honest Americans have any faith in elections when Democrats REFUSE to play by the rules?
« on: November 16, 2018, 04:11:49 pm »

How can honest Americans have any faith in elections when Democrats REFUSE to play by the rules?

Thursday, November 15, 2018 by: JD Heyes   
 

(Natural News) It is becoming more obvious by the day that the Democratic Party is morphing into the kind of Left-wing, communist/socialist entity that we often find starting ‘revolutions’ in third-world banana republics and second-rate powers like Venezuela, as evidenced by the efforts to steal midterm election victories from Republicans.

As noted by U.S. Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., whose home state is ground zero for Democrat-led post-election chaos, the difference between Republican-heavy counties and those dominated by Left-wing election supervisors is stark.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-11-15-how-can-honest-americans-have-any-faith-in-elections.html
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Re: How can honest Americans have any faith in elections when Democrats REFUSE to play by the rules
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2018, 06:14:39 pm »
I think the vast majority of Rat voters are not honest, so the premise of the title is incorrect.

Rats consistently vote for people who will take from the makers to give to the takers.  That's dishonest.
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Re: How can honest Americans have any faith in elections when Democrats REFUSE to play by the rules
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2018, 07:14:46 pm »
I use to argue with politics with Democrats/progressives all the time.  Their reaction to Trump's election convinced me there is no longer a point -- they simply do not share even basic democratic values.
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Re: How can honest Americans have any faith in elections when Democrats REFUSE to play by the rules
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2018, 07:19:25 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on November 16, 2018, 07:14:46 pm
I use to argue with politics with Democrats/progressives all the time.  Their reaction to Trump's election convinced me there is no longer a point -- they simply do not share even basic democratic values.

Perzackly.  Unfortunately, they take a refusal to engage as a sign they've already won.   :shrug:
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Re: How can honest Americans have any faith in elections when Democrats REFUSE to play by the rules
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2018, 07:30:00 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on November 16, 2018, 07:19:25 pm
Perzackly.  Unfortunately, they take a refusal to engage as a sign they've already won.   :shrug:

They think they've already one anyway.  I prefer not to give them legitimacy by pretending they're worth my time.
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Re: How can honest Americans have any faith in elections when Democrats REFUSE to play by the rules
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2018, 07:39:17 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on November 16, 2018, 07:30:00 pm
They think they've already one anyway.  I prefer not to give them legitimacy by pretending they're worth my time.

They've only "won" in their own minds.  Unfortunately for them, you and I have a say in the matter at the end of the day.
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Re: How can honest Americans have any faith in elections when Democrats REFUSE to play by the rules
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2018, 08:00:35 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on November 16, 2018, 07:39:17 pm
They've only "won" in their own minds.  Unfortunately for them, you and I have a say in the matter at the end of the day.

Exactly.  It still makes sense to discuss things with independents and conservatives, even if you don't agree on all the particulars.  But the left doesn't even believe in a republican form of government anymore.  Not really.
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Re: How can honest Americans have any faith in elections when Democrats REFUSE to play by the rules
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2018, 08:02:23 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on November 16, 2018, 08:00:35 pm
Exactly.  It still makes sense to discuss things with independents and conservatives, even if you don't agree on all the particulars.  But the left doesn't even believe in a republican form of government anymore.  Not really.

Not at all, which is why the MSM cries "Democracy" incessantly.
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Re: How can honest Americans have any faith in elections when Democrats REFUSE to play by the rules
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2018, 08:48:14 pm »
When the rules are like swiss cheese, you need to reform and plug the holes. No ballots should just be 'discovered' without legit chain-of-custody.
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Re: How can honest Americans have any faith in elections when Democrats REFUSE to play by the rules
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2018, 08:52:48 pm »
This sense of cynicism is precisely what the Rats want.  It's why they do this.
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Re: How can honest Americans have any faith in elections when Democrats REFUSE to play by the rules
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2018, 08:53:23 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on November 16, 2018, 07:14:46 pm
I use to argue with politics with Democrats/progressives all the time.  Their reaction to Trump's election convinced me there is no longer a point -- they simply do not share even basic democratic values.

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Re: How can honest Americans have any faith in elections when Democrats REFUSE to play by the rules
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2018, 10:09:12 pm »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on November 16, 2018, 08:48:14 pm
When the rules are like swiss cheese, you need to reform and plug the holes. No ballots should just be 'discovered' without legit chain-of-custody.

Really, as if we need to know that in the year 2018... decades and decades of stonewalling sound law, may not happen now for always.
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Re: How can honest Americans have any faith in elections when Democrats REFUSE to play by the rules
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2018, 10:15:22 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on November 16, 2018, 10:09:12 pm
Really, as if we need to know that in the year 2018... decades and decades of stonewalling sound law, may not happen now for always.

What burns me Tom is in states like FL the GOP has been in charge for a decade. How the hell could this not be fixed? Quit jackdicking around and get it under control already.
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Re: How can honest Americans have any faith in elections when Democrats REFUSE to play by the rules
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2018, 10:18:51 pm »
Honest hard working Americans are not needed by Dems, hence ignored. They’d rather have the dishonest, lazy, uneducated, illegal aliens.
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Re: How can honest Americans have any faith in elections when Democrats REFUSE to play by the rules
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2018, 11:03:17 pm »
Quote from: RetBobbyMI on November 16, 2018, 10:18:51 pm
Honest hard working Americans are not needed by Dems, hence ignored. They’d rather have the dishonest, lazy, uneducated, illegal aliens.

The problem is the takers now outnumber the makers, and are happy to vote themselves more largess.  We've already crossed the Rubicon.
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Re: How can honest Americans have any faith in elections when Democrats REFUSE to play by the rules
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2018, 01:31:51 am »
Major Bill wrote:
"I use to argue with politics with Democrats/progressives all the time.  Their reaction to Trump's election convinced me there is no longer a point -- they simply do not share even basic democratic values."

OK, I'll accept what you wrote at face value.
But...
... If these people can no longer be reasoned with... if they no longer "share even basic democratic values"...  then... what is to be DONE WITH them? And with the blue states in which they live?

Can we remain "a United States" with them?
If the answer is no, then what must be the alternative?

Jes' askin' ...
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Re: How can honest Americans have any faith in elections when Democrats REFUSE to play by the rules
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2018, 04:10:27 am »
Quote from: Fishrrman on November 17, 2018, 01:31:51 am
Major Bill wrote:
"I use to argue with politics with Democrats/progressives all the time.  Their reaction to Trump's election convinced me there is no longer a point -- they simply do not share even basic democratic values."

OK, I'll accept what you wrote at face value.
But...
... If these people can no longer be reasoned with... if they no longer "share even basic democratic values"...  then... what is to be DONE WITH them? And with the blue states in which they live?

Can we remain "a United States" with them?
If the answer is no, then what must be the alternative?

Jes' askin' ...

First, it's not just a "red state/blue state" situation.  It is also urban v. suburban v. rural.   So, you have blue states with significant groups of red voters, and vice-versa.  There is no easy division. 

Second, there are all sorts of possible alternatives, not "the alternative".  Everything from shooting in the streets, to a gradual dissolution, to people just putting up with a government they don't like, to people eventually coming around to respecting election again. I know there are some who secretly predict some sort of massive revolution/resistance, but that'a Romanticized vision of the future that is hardly inevitable.
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