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Cruz raises constitutional concerns over legislation to protect Mueller

By Michael Burke - 11/11/18 12:07 PM EST


Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) said Sunday that he doesn't think Congress should pass legislation protecting special counsel Robert Mueller and his investigation into Russian election interference.

Cruz said during an interview on CBS's "Face the Nation" that he believes such legislation would be unconstitutional.

"We had a bill come through the Judiciary Committee that tried to make it impossible for a special counsel to be removed. I believe that legislation was unconstitutional," he said.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/416128-cruz-i-dont-believe-there-should-be-legislation-to-protect-mueller
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Re: Cruz raises constitutional concerns over legislation to protect Mueller
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2018, 01:18:49 PM »
    I so want to give this guy the benefit of the doubt but I have become so cynical I believe this is a continuation of 'Dreamcycles are good for you Tour'.

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Re: Cruz raises constitutional concerns over legislation to protect Mueller
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2018, 01:31:17 PM »
    I so want to give this guy the benefit of the doubt but I have become so cynical I believe this is a continuation of 'Dreamcycles are good for you Tour'.



Which guy?
Cui bono?

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Re: Cruz raises constitutional concerns over legislation to protect Mueller
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2018, 01:41:23 PM »
   Cruz. 
   Some of the things he has done lately seem so out of character to me @Sanguine
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Re: Cruz raises constitutional concerns over legislation to protect Mueller
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2018, 02:24:41 PM »
What Cruz is saying here makes sense though.
Cui bono?

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Re: Cruz raises constitutional concerns over legislation to protect Mueller
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2018, 02:27:17 PM »
Cruz is right.  This would be an infringement of Executive authority.
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Re: Cruz raises constitutional concerns over legislation to protect Mueller
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2018, 03:44:34 PM »
   Cruz. 
   Some of the things he has done lately seem so out of character to me @Sanguine
Methinks you are the one been eating those ice cream on a sticks.  And where I am from, I grew up with them spelled without a 'y'.

Cruz has squarely addressed the issue of constitutionality.
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Re: Cruz raises constitutional concerns over legislation to protect Mueller
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2018, 04:21:36 PM »
Methinks you are the one been eating those ice cream on a sticks.  And where I am from, I grew up with them spelled without a 'y'.

Yep. Not even close. Dreamsicles have always been one of my favorites.
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Re: Cruz raises constitutional concerns over legislation to protect Mueller
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2018, 04:28:33 PM »
   Cruz. 
   Some of the things he has done lately seem so out of character to me @Sanguine

I'm not sure why it would be out of character for a Constitutional lawyer who has argued before the USSC several times, and now sits in the US Senate, to express an opinion on the constitutionality of a proposed act of Congress.

In fact the USSC ruled in Myers v. United States that the president has the sole, unilateral authority to fire an executive branch official, and needs no approval from the Senate to do so, regardless of whether the Senate had confirmed the original appointment.  In the same ruling the court determined that the Tenure of Office Act, which had been the basis of Andrew Johnson's impeachment and had itself been repealed some twenty years later, had been unconstitutional.

I'm no attorney myself, but I don't see any condition under which Cruz could be incorrect.
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Re: Cruz raises constitutional concerns over legislation to protect Mueller
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2018, 06:09:47 PM »
   I opened myself up for this.  Still pizzed Cruz voted on that last budget and that was the uncharacteristic thing I was referring to.
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Re: Cruz raises constitutional concerns over legislation to protect Mueller
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2018, 06:15:30 PM »
   I opened myself up for this.  Still pizzed Cruz voted on that last budget and that was the uncharacteristic thing I was referring to.

I'm with you on that.  But, he wasn't the only one of the good guys who voted for it. 
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