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Mount Vesuvius murdered its victims in more brutal ways than we thought

Boiling blood and exploding skulls.
By Neel V. Patel October 9, 2018
 

Our visions of Pompeii's destruction just got a little more gruesome.
 

For nearly two millennia, the eruption of Mount Vesuvius has served as a stark reminder that nature is capable of some serious violence. The helpless residents of Pompeii and Herculaneum were inundated by volcanic horror, bludgeoned by hot ash avalanches that asphyxiated them while preserving their bodies for centuries afterward, within an unforgettable necropolis. At least, that’s what we always assumed. It turns out, many people probably died in ways that were more grisly than we imagined.
 
In findings published in PLOS One late last month, researchers from Naples, Italy found that a segment of Vesuvius victims were likely killed by fast-moving laving surges that streamed down toward the towns below, creating temperatures high enough to vaporize bodily fluids and create explosions in the skull. It’s about as horrific a way to go as you might imagine, and upends the notion that the toxic gases and thick chunks of ash were responsible for choking inhabitants to death during the AD 79 eruption.

https://www.popsci.com/vesuvius-blood-boil
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Re: Mount Vesuvius murdered its victims in more brutal ways than we thought
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2018, 01:09:05 PM »
Didn't know that nature was capable of "murder"...this is news to me.   :pondering:
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Re: Mount Vesuvius murdered its victims in more brutal ways than we thought
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2018, 09:37:27 PM »
Didn't know that nature was capable of "murder"...this is news to me.   :pondering:
That's one cold-blooded volcano!
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Re: Mount Vesuvius murdered its victims in more brutal ways than we thought
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2018, 08:08:23 PM »

MURDERER!!
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Re: Mount Vesuvius murdered its victims in more brutal ways than we thought
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2018, 08:36:26 AM »
“Laving” surge?

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Re: Mount Vesuvius murdered its victims in more brutal ways than we thought
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2018, 02:21:44 PM »
I'm not sure of their attempted terminology, but the phenomenon has been known for a long time as a "nuee ardente", a superheated pyroclastic flow usually caused by the collapse of a freshly ejected column of hot gasses and ash. The link has details. https://www.usgs.gov/news/earthword-%E2%80%93-nu%C3%A9e-ardente
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Re: Mount Vesuvius murdered its victims in more brutal ways than we thought
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2018, 02:56:34 PM »
I'm not sure of their attempted terminology, but the phenomenon has been known for a long time as a "nuee ardente", a superheated pyroclastic flow usually caused by the collapse of a freshly ejected column of hot gasses and ash. The link has details. https://www.usgs.gov/news/earthword-%E2%80%93-nu%C3%A9e-ardente

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I know about pyroclastic flows but laving isn't a word.

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Re: Mount Vesuvius murdered its victims in more brutal ways than we thought
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2018, 03:16:26 PM »
@Smokin Joe

I know about pyroclastic flows but laving isn't a word.

I shutter to think of the experiments on mammals for this 'science' to come to the conclusion they did.
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Re: Mount Vesuvius murdered its victims in more brutal ways than we thought
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2018, 04:02:40 PM »
I saw a pretty dramatic re-enactment on a Netflix or other documentary video a few years ago.

I visited the site in 1970. Since then, much has been uncovered.

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Re: Mount Vesuvius murdered its victims in more brutal ways than we thought
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2018, 12:10:50 AM »
@Smokin Joe

I know about pyroclastic flows but laving isn't a word.
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lave
/lāv/Submit
verbLITERARY
gerund or present participle: laving
wash.
"she ran cold water in the basin, laving her face and hands"
(of water) wash against or over (something).
"the sea below laved the shore with small, agitated waves"
   
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Re: Mount Vesuvius murdered its victims in more brutal ways than we thought
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2018, 12:13:37 AM »

MURDERER!!

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Re: Mount Vesuvius murdered its victims in more brutal ways than we thought
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2018, 04:28:09 PM »
I shutter to think of the experiments on mammals for this 'science' to come to the conclusion they did.

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I can't think about it.  It's awful.

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Re: Mount Vesuvius murdered its victims in more brutal ways than we thought
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2018, 04:31:08 PM »
@CatherineofAragon
lave
/lāv/Submit
verbLITERARY
gerund or present participle: laving
wash.
"she ran cold water in the basin, laving her face and hands"
(of water) wash against or over (something).
"the sea below laved the shore with small, agitated waves"
   

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Re: Mount Vesuvius murdered its victims in more brutal ways than we thought
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2018, 07:15:28 AM »
I shutter to think of the experiments on mammals for this 'science' to come to the conclusion they did.
Martinique, 1902. No one needed to hurt any critters.
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There were only three survivors.
Better article:

https://www.earthmagazine.org/article/benchmarks-may-8-1902-deadly-eruption-mount-pelee
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