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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #50 on: October 23, 2018, 05:57:54 am »
C'mon folks.  The 'caravan' of warriors ahem... I mean,migrant refugees of helpless, starving women and children are just coming here to do the jobs Americans won't do.

So get a grip and welcome them in.  They will all be vetted and processed, so we can go down there and greet them with big welcome banners.

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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #51 on: October 23, 2018, 05:58:30 am »
??? Wow.  I definitely never stated nor implied that.  You are way over reacting to what I merely point out in Trump/Pompeo's agreement with Mexico and the UN and arrived at your own conclusions.

I can assure you I am not the only one being hyperbolic in this discussion.  The difference is, I did it on purpose.

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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #52 on: October 23, 2018, 05:58:53 am »
Bullshit. We have a controlled border with specific agencies in charge of it. The effing Eurotrash don't. Secondly shit being looted and cops abused in Mexico is standard operating procedure. Ever hear of the Cartels?

You seem insistent on trying to compare two wholly different things. The US is not Europe. The US is not South America or Mexico.

No, I never stated that the US is Europe only that we should have learned by their mistakes.

Of course I've heard of the cartels and unfortunately, (and I don't know if it has happened during this administration) in the past our border patrol agents have been out gunned and/or ordered to stand down.
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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #53 on: October 23, 2018, 05:59:52 am »
??? Wow.  I definitely never stated nor implied that.

Yes you did. There is only one option available if you want Trump to act now when they are in another country. Starting a military action.

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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #54 on: October 23, 2018, 06:00:03 am »
I can assure you I am not the only one being hyperbolic in this discussion.  The difference is, I did it on purpose.

Yes, I understand, rather than discussing you're attacking.  I got it.
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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #55 on: October 23, 2018, 06:00:56 am »
??? Wow.  I definitely never stated nor implied that.  You are way over reacting to what I merely point out in Trump/Pompeo's agreement with Mexico and the UN and arrived at your own conclusions.

Roos is overreacting? That’s all you’ve done for days.

Cool your jets, POTUS got this.

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« Reply #56 on: October 23, 2018, 06:02:57 am »
Yes, I understand, rather than discussing you're attacking.  I got it.

I started with reason and logic and when that didn't work moved on to baser methods.  Please note I am attacking your ideas, not you. Please don't nuke central Florida.

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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #57 on: October 23, 2018, 06:04:32 am »
Yes you did. There is only one option available if you want Trump to act now when they are in another country. Starting a military action.

As I stated before, he can act now and clearly tell  the UN that the US will NOT take in any refugees. He stated that he was going to call in as many troops as necessary ... so far he hasn't done so.  Good grief ... not advocating violence at all.
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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #58 on: October 23, 2018, 06:04:54 am »
Roos is overreacting? That’s all you’ve done for days.

Cool your jets, POTUS got this.

Everyone kiss you asses goodbye, the end is near when Frank, align and I agree in the same thread.

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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #59 on: October 23, 2018, 06:07:58 am »
I started with reason and logic and when that didn't work moved on to baser methods.  Please note I am attacking your ideas, not you. Please don't nuke central Florida.

Interesting that you are the one bringing up cracking skulls and nuking people. End of discussion.  I'm not going to continue this back and forth attack.
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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #60 on: October 23, 2018, 06:09:36 am »
As I stated before, he can act now and clearly tell  the UN that the US will NOT take in any refugees. He stated that he was going to call in as many troops as necessary ... so far he hasn't done so.  Good grief ... not advocating violence at all.

Then you should take a step back and see what the natural end is to what you are pimping. Trump is taking the prudent course here. You make it like just because someone says they are a refugee they get status. Just read back some posts to the defined rules for a refugee. Really high bar for that shit.

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« Reply #61 on: October 23, 2018, 06:15:40 am »
Interesting that you are the one bringing up cracking skulls and nuking people. End of discussion.  I'm not going to continue this back and forth attack.

By all means, do not let me dissuade you from your panic.

You know that it's starting the busy season in Palm Beach.  Trump probably needs a few of the refugeea to fully staff Mar A Lago.  So he just might be letting a few, closely vetted ones in.

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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #62 on: October 23, 2018, 06:23:30 am »
I don't give a shit what he calls himself.


CLOSE THE DAMN BORDER!!

I will add NOW!  Trump mentioned this was a national emergency but he needs to declare it and send the troops now.  This group is growing every day.  It must be Mexicans who are joining also.  Furthermore I saw Trump statement light yesterday about cutting foreign support.  First it was cut all funding now it is severely cut the funding.

Trump cannot be weak now.  He has to send the troops immediately.  And send the message that Mexico as well as Guatemala and Honduras will no longer receive any foreign aid from the United States.  This is an invasion.  Our Constitution guarantees us protection from invasion. 
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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #63 on: October 23, 2018, 06:27:32 am »
I will add NOW!  Trump mentioned this was a national emergency but he needs to declare it and send the troops now.

There are reports and rumors that he has done just that with intel that says 40,000 Mexicans are massing near the border to link up with the Hondurans and Guatemalan caravans to rush our border.

But... the reports are not being corroborated elsewhere yet - just this one source, which I hope is not fake news or jerk-our-chains bullshit:

PRESIDENT ORDERS MILITARY DEPLOYMENT TO SOUTHERN BORDER
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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #64 on: October 23, 2018, 06:30:27 am »
C'mon folks.  The 'caravan' of warriors ahem... I mean,migrant refugees of helpless, starving women and children are just coming here to do the jobs Americans won't do.

So get a grip and welcome them in.  They will all be vetted and processed, so we can go down there and greet them with big welcome banners.




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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #65 on: October 23, 2018, 06:41:02 am »
You may be going off the deep end prematurely.  There's a LOT of wiggle room in those words.  How about we wait and see what actually happens?  Either way, there ain't shit you can do about any of it.

Exactly @RoosGirl   Even if Trump confided every detail of his plans, which would be dangerous, some people here would still panic.  I'm with you on the wait and see thing.
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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #66 on: October 23, 2018, 07:00:55 am »
Exactly @RoosGirl   Even if Trump confided every detail of his plans, which would be dangerous, some people here would still panic.  I'm with you on the wait and see thing.

Exactly.

With this whole thing (as with everything involving Trump) I am reminded of that old song, If You Don’t Know Me by Now.

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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #68 on: October 23, 2018, 10:05:08 am »
Just gonna throw this out there, my prediction... Trump will put on a big show, military and all, and then once the elections are over, will inside inform the military to slack off their job and let the illegal mob filter in under the cover of night.

Disagree with me all you want, BUT put your guesses up while at it. Lets see who comes the closest to the correct scenario in the end.
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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #69 on: October 23, 2018, 12:30:44 pm »
Ah, yes....

The guy who relied on loans from Russians and Germans to finance his businesses, saved Chinese jobs at ZTE, received $500M in Chinese money for his Indonesian project, and had the majority of his products manufactured outside the US. 

What a nationalist!
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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #70 on: October 23, 2018, 12:39:42 pm »
There are reports and rumors that he has done just that with intel that says 40,000 Mexicans are massing near the border to link up with the Hondurans and Guatemalan caravans to rush our border.

But... the reports are not being corroborated elsewhere yet - just this one source, which I hope is not fake news or jerk-our-chains bullshit:

PRESIDENT ORDERS MILITARY DEPLOYMENT TO SOUTHERN BORDER

There is no corroboration of this having happened this morning... so apparently this was all just FAKE NEWS BULLSHIT from the Trump 'Right'.

Sorry to have linked what some other Trump fans were cheering about on another forum.
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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #71 on: October 23, 2018, 12:53:36 pm »
Sorry to have linked what some other Trump fans were cheering about on another forum.

I am so sick and tired of this bullshit.  The one thing that's starting to upset me is I'm beginning to hate that in saving America "Trump fans" are also saving the asses of those who think like this.

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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #72 on: October 23, 2018, 01:00:57 pm »
Is that what they call patriots now?

If so, I am a Nationalist.
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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #73 on: October 23, 2018, 01:04:14 pm »
I am so sick and tired of this bullshit.  The one thing that's starting to upset me is I'm beginning to hate that in saving America "Trump fans" are also saving the asses of those who think like this.


Yeah, I bet if you really pushed @INVAR he would admit he's not really sorry about that part.

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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #74 on: October 23, 2018, 01:04:42 pm »
I am so sick and tired of this bullshit.  The one thing that's starting to upset me is I'm beginning to hate that in saving America "Trump fans" are also saving the asses of those who think like this.

Why?  Because I had to retract what was a bullshit story being sold and applauded by Trump fans?

I will admit I jumped the shark by linking to that source because I agree with such a course of action, but like so much with Trump and his fanbase - it's manufactured to keep us talking about Trump and what he might or might not do - or what everyone thinks and hopes he does.

And contrary to your ridiculous opinion, you people are not "saving" anyone's ass, including mine.  You're just cheerleading politicians as your team sport.
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