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Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« on: October 23, 2018, 12:52:50 am »
Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
By Brett Samuels - 10/22/18 08:42 PM EDT

President Trump on Monday declared himself a "nationalist" as he railed against Democrats and "globalists" who put the wellbeing of the world over the country.

At a raucous campaign rally in Houston, Trump warned supporters that Democrats will seek to restore influence to "corrupt, power-hungry globalists."

"You know what a globalist is? A globalist is a person that wants the globe to do well, frankly, not caring about our country so much," Trump said. "And you know what, we can’t have that."

The crowd began booing as Trump moved on to his preferred descriptor.

"You know, they have a word. It sort of became old-fashioned. It’s called a nationalist," he continued. "And I say really, we’re not supposed to use that word. You know what I am? I am a nationalist. Use that word."

The crowd broke out into chants of "USA" in response.

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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2018, 01:09:27 am »

Good. Nationalist is not a dirty word.

No one can help another without having something with which to help. So each person must first try to keep their self in good shape. With that, benevolence can extent to family and friends. Next would likely be community and then nation. The people founding this country were nationalist. If they weren't then there wouldn't have been a country.

The problem is that internationalists have stigmatized terms like 'nationalist' and 'populist' by associating them with Fascism. That is nonsense.


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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2018, 01:54:37 am »
I sat and watch the rally in Houston.  It was extremely powerful and Cruz stated that he would help campaign for Trump in 2020.   
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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2018, 01:58:40 am »
I don't give a shit what he calls himself.


CLOSE THE DAMN BORDER!!
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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2018, 02:04:49 am »
I don't give a shit what he calls himself.


CLOSE THE DAMN BORDER!!

 :amen:  Still waiting for him to take drastic action. 
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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2018, 02:17:50 am »
:amen:  Still waiting for him to take drastic action.

We will see whether or not he is the empty suit con-man Reality TV show host some of us think he really is.

Push has come to shove and we need more than rallies, tweets and boiler-plate red meat for his chanting masses.  This is the decisive moment whether or not he demonstrates he was dead serious about actually stopping illegals, or just full of shit to tell his mobs what they wanted to hear.

There is an Army Division of invaders now being DRIVEN up to the border in semi-tractor trailers.  14,000 strong and growing.
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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2018, 02:26:44 am »
We will see whether or not he is the empty suit con-man Reality TV show host some of us think he really is.

Push has come to shove and we need more than rallies, tweets and boiler-plate red meat for his chanting masses.  This is the decisive moment whether or not he demonstrates he was dead serious about actually stopping illegals, or just full of shit to tell his mobs what they wanted to hear.

There is an Army Division of invaders now being DRIVEN up to the border in semi-tractor trailers.  14,000 strong and growing.

OMG!!!  No doubt this is his biggest challenge; those backing this invasion are calling his bluff.  Hopefully he wasn't bluffing.  We'll know very soon.
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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2018, 03:10:57 am »
:amen:  Still waiting for him to take drastic action.

Like what? Carpet bombing effing Mexico? We can't do squat until the shitbags start storming the gates.

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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2018, 03:18:57 am »
Like what? Carpet bombing effing Mexico? We can't do squat until the shitbags start storming the gates.

They already are; they've pushed through the border, wrestled with the Mexican police and are looting.  Meanwhile ... Pompeo and Trump have agreed to let these shitbags apply for asylum in Mexico and to let the UN place them; including in the U.S.

So why is it now, that we can't do squat?
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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2018, 03:19:17 am »
I don't give a shit what he calls himself. CLOSE THE DAMN BORDER!!

Damn!  If we only had McMuffin in the WH.   888blackhat

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« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2018, 03:24:23 am »
They already are; they've pushed through the border, wrestled with the Mexican police and are looting.  Meanwhile ... Pompeo and Trump have agreed to let these shitbags apply for asylum in Mexico and to let the UN place them; including in the U.S.

So why is it now, that we can't do squat?

They are in Mexico. That is a foreign country if you haven't noticed. Them raising hell there is their problem. Them applying for asylum is a dead letter office and everyone knows it. There is a waiting list of 700K on that path. Let them sit in Mexico waiting for a reply. Now if they start coming into the US as they plan then we can do shit.

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« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2018, 03:29:49 am »
Damn!  If we only had McMuffin in the WH.   888blackhat

??? and what does that have to do with anything right now, or Trump's lack of action??  The mob has grown from several thousand to 10,000 and they have knocked down barriers and overwhelmed the Mexican police. Where do you think they're headed next?  What's going to keep them out?

Instead of agreeing to let Mexico and the UN handle this including placing them in the US after they've been granted asylum, he should have told them that this is an invasion and we will NOT accept any refugees into this country and lined the border with our military.

Excuse me RIV, I'm in error ...the figure is now closer to 14,000.
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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2018, 03:35:17 am »
??? and what does that have to do with anything right now, or Trump's lack of action?? 

You seem to think that we can just go into a foreign country and do whatever the eff we want. Mexico isn't southern Texas. We can't do anything unless you want to start a war there. Now when they get to the US that is a different story. At that point the President is on record numerous times to want to handle the situation....

Exclusive: President Trump vows to send as many troops to the border ‘as necessary’ to stop caravan

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/10/22/trump-halt-migrant-caravan-many-troops-necessary/1731717002/

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« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2018, 03:38:26 am »
They are in Mexico. That is a foreign country if you haven't noticed. Them raising hell there is their problem. Them applying for asylum is a dead letter office and everyone knows it. There is a waiting list of 700K on that path. Let them sit in Mexico waiting for a reply. Now if they start coming into the US as they plan then we can do shit.

They are in Mexico (gee thanks for the info).  Them applying for asylum is not bogus as the UN is determining who will be granted asylum and they are deciding which host countries to place them in.  The US in case you didn't know, is one of those countries. That is what Pompeo and Trump have agreed to. If Trump had said we're not taking in any refugees and shut this down perhaps we wouldn't have seen their numbers grow to 10,000 in just a few days.

With the UN now involved, exactly what do you think they are going to allow the US to do, especially after Trump agreed to let them handle this along with Mexico?
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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2018, 03:38:50 am »
Damn!  If we only had McMuffin in the WH.   

Who?
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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2018, 03:42:25 am »
They are in Mexico. That is a foreign country if you haven't noticed. Them raising hell there is their problem. Them applying for asylum is a dead letter office and everyone knows it. There is a waiting list of 700K on that path. Let them sit in Mexico waiting for a reply. Now if they start coming into the US as they plan then we can do shit.


And.... if (or rather, when) they enter the US through California.... with a willing accomplice like Jerry Brown allowing them into the sanctuary state?  What then?   

http://time.com/4960233/california-sanctuary-state-donald-trump/
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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2018, 03:43:15 am »
Like what? Carpet bombing effing Mexico? We can't do squat until the shitbags start storming the gates.

No duh, @Frank Cannon   I can't figure out what some people want Trump to do about this mob in Mexico at this point in time.  He is working with Mexico and if it can be stopped before it reaches the border that would be the best solution.
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« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2018, 03:43:26 am »
They are in Mexico (gee thanks for the info).  Them applying for asylum is not bogus as the UN is determining who will be granted asylum and they are deciding which host countries to place them in.  The US in case you didn't know, is one of those countries. That is what Pompeo and Trump have agreed to. If Trump had said we're not taking in any refugees and shut this down perhaps we wouldn't have seen their numbers grow to 10,000 in just a few days.

With the UN now involved, exactly what do you think they are going to allow the US to do, especially after Trump agreed to let them handle this along with Mexico?

Look into it. The only way they get into the country is if they can prove refugee status. It's almost impossible for young men coming from countries not at war to jump that hurdle.

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« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2018, 03:46:03 am »

And.... if (or rather, when) they enter the US through California.... with a willing accomplice like Jerry Brown allowing them into the sanctuary state?  What then?   

http://time.com/4960233/california-sanctuary-state-donald-trump/

Trump can send troops to the border in Cali no matter what type of insane shit they are up to. The Feds control that border, not Moonbeam.

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« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2018, 03:47:36 am »
No duh, @Frank Cannon   I can't figure out what some people want Trump to do about this mob in Mexico at this point in time.  He is working with Mexico and if it can be stopped before it reaches the border that would be the best solution.

???? So granting these people asylum and placing them in the US is a better solution?  So....voila .... they are no longer illegals, they are refugees who are eligible to apply for residency after 12 months, then they get a social security card and can legally work in the U.S.  Voting privileges I am unsure of.
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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2018, 03:51:19 am »
Trump can send troops to the border in Cali no matter what type of insane shit they are up to. The Feds control that border, not Moonbeam.

Maybe so, but I have a feeling that it is headed for a showdown....nevertheless.  Remember how the Governor of Louisiana had to first "ask" Bush to send in federal help?  Supposedly he couldn't do anything unless or until that request was made.  How will this be any different?  What has changed since then?  Nothing, I'm betting.

Sure, it could be different since this is deemed a matter of national security.  But let's face reality here.  The radical left is trying to 'set up' Trump to do something, ANYTHING, that they can use against him. 
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« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2018, 03:52:00 am »
Look into it. The only way they get into the country is if they can prove refugee status. It's almost impossible for young men coming from countries not at war to jump that hurdle.

That's just it ... they are being allowed to apply for asylum (refugee status) in Mexico and the UN is making that determination. They then will be placed in various different host countries, with the U.S. being a host country. Do you honestly think that the UN is going to turn all these people away???  Seriously??
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Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2018, 03:55:49 am »
You seem to think that we can just go into a foreign country and do whatever the eff we want. Mexico isn't southern Texas. We can't do anything unless you want to start a war there. Now when they get to the US that is a different story. At that point the President is on record numerous times to want to handle the situation....

Exclusive: President Trump vows to send as many troops to the border ‘as necessary’ to stop caravan

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/10/22/trump-halt-migrant-caravan-many-troops-necessary/1731717002/


Yes, that's what he's been saying on one hand and on the other hand he's agreed to let the UN assist in this situation as the US is a host nation.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-mexico-agree-on-plan-to-handle-migrant-caravan-from-central-america

...At the established shelters, U.N. officials will vet the refugees to decide which ones have legitimate claims for refugee status, the official told Fox News.

If a person or persons is determined to have a legitimate claim, they will undergo a U.N. process of being placed in a host country, which could ultimately be the U.S. or any other country that has an agreement with the UNHCR, the official said.
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Re: Trump: 'You know what I am? I'm a nationalist'
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2018, 04:00:51 am »
That's just it ... they are being allowed to apply for asylum (refugee status) in Mexico and the UN is making that determination. They then will be placed in various different host countries, with the U.S. being a host country. Do you honestly think that the UN is going to turn all these people away???  Seriously??

NO. THAT IS NOT HOW IT WORKS. The UN can ask them to be placed with a "host" country but that country can refuse.....

Resettlement

http://www.unhcr.org/en-us/resettlement.html

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Resettlement is the transfer of refugees from an asylum country to another State that has agreed to admit them and ultimately grant them permanent settlement. UNHCR is mandated by its Statute and the UN General Assembly Resolutions to undertake resettlement as one of the three durable solutions. Resettlement is unique in that it is the only durable solution that involves the relocation of refugees from an asylum country to a third country. There were 19.9 million refugees of concern to UNHCR around the world at the end of 2017, but less than one per cent were resettled that year.

I don't know where you are getting your information, but it is way off the plantation. There are rules in place for this shit and they have been for a long time.