Second migrant caravan: New group rushes to join ranks, deportees vow return to America

[catfish1957]

Why would the Media report the truth if this invasion army serves their ultimate political objectives?

Truth like anything else today has to be discovered for oneself.  Every institution is corrupted and debased for political purposes, you are not going to get 'truth' in a culture that wants to believe the lie and hates the truth because it goes against what they want to believe.

Exactly......

How better to pull off a political coup, but padding the number of voters toward that direction. 

When that does happen, it is the end of the United States as we know it.

[libertybele]

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Why would the Media report the truth if this invasion army serves their ultimate political objectives?

Truth like anything else today has to be discovered for oneself.  Every institution is corrupted and debased for political purposes, you are not going to get 'truth' in a culture that wants to believe the lie and hates the truth because it goes against what they want to believe.
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Indeed.  Some of us have seen this coming for quite some time and have prepared in some way.  Most will be smacked square in the face; once they experience a loved one killed, raped or beaten by one of these supposed refugees or they experience reverse discrimination when looking for jobs or seeking medical attention. Maybe it will hit close to home when their sons or daughters are made to adhere to Sharia law in school.

Still haven't heard a peep from the staunch Trump supporters.  Maybe they're busy planning anti-refugee marches ... or getting a hold of their Congressmen and making their voices heard ... 

[Sanguine]

Pictures of military aged males waving foreign flags saying 'eff you we're coming like it or not' doesn't suit their purposes.

Pictures of pathetic young mothers holding babies with flies in their noses being faced down by US soldiers holding guns sent by the brute Trump does.

And doing it in late October, right before an election that the dems are desperate to make gains in does suit their purposes.

[libertybele]

And doing it in late October, right before an election that the dems are desperate to make gains in does suit their purposes.

With that being stated, it sure does seem that Trump is accommodating them; perhaps as planned.

[Sanguine]

With that being stated, it sure does seem that Trump is accommodating them; perhaps as planned.

How so?

[mountaineer]

Pictures of military aged males waving foreign flags saying 'eff you we're coming like it or not' doesn't suit their purposes.

Pictures of pathetic young mothers holding babies with flies in their noses being faced down by US soldiers holding guns sent by the brute Trump does.

The latter is what CNN/MSNBC will be more than happy to broadcast.

[libertybele]

I just hope every sane person currently residing in southern California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas is armed to the teeth right now.

California, I highly doubt it. This will be a wake up call for many.  These states have been dealing with illegal immigration for a long time.

[libertybele]

The goal is to reach the US, period. Relatively few are granted asylum, but they don't care - they are released and disappear. Residency will come when the squishes in congress mandate it by law at some future time.

Actually, from my understanding, they agreement between the U.S., Mexico and the UN that these people will apply for asylum in Mexico, and if granted, the UN will then place them in host countries; including the U.S.  So ... exactly how is the UN going to determine who to turn away and who to allow to proceed?  That's a joke.  They can't.

[libertybele]

OK...so I just rec'd a text from one of Trump/Cruz camp.  I responded that at the moment I was more concerned with the 10,000 refugees heading our way.

I got a response ... Awesome ...Thanks again for standing w Ted Cruz 4 our conservative values!!!

[INVAR]

OK...so I just rec'd a text from one of Trump/Cruz camp.  I responded that at the moment I was more concerned with the 10,000 refugees heading our way.

I got a response ... Awesome ...Thanks again for standing w Ted Cruz 4 our conservative values!!!

Really illustrates that our "government" and those in it are listening to us doesn't it?

We are on our own.

This government will be complicit in the invasion that began some time ago and will continue to hold open the borders and give preference and welfare to the invaders, because the government and political caste has already decided that the current population needs to be replaced with Dependents and those who will provide cheap labor and a future for their ponzi schemes to be funded.

Meanwhile, the invaders plan to reconquinista and/or destroy those they are targeted with destroying from within.  They have no intention of becoming Americans.

Just keep looking at what they have already shown us to get it through our thick skulls of emoting wishful thinking:

[Sanguine]

Really illustrates that our "government" and those in it are listening to us doesn't it?

We are on our own.

This government will be complicit in the invasion that began some time ago and will continue to hold open the borders and give preference and welfare to the invaders, because the government and political caste has already decided that the current population needs to be replaced with Dependents and those who will provide cheap labor and a future for their ponzi schemes to be funded.

Meanwhile, the invaders plan to reconquinista and/or destroy those they are targeted with destroying from within.  They have no intention of becoming Americans.

Just keep looking at what they have already shown us to get it through our thick skulls of emoting wishful thinking:

No, it illustrates that she replied to a mass text and got an automatic response back.  Sheesh. 

[libertybele]

Perhaps....but if the yare going to ask me for money, they darn well better be listening or they shouldn't expect another penny.  Not that my withholding money is going to make any difference at this point in time and certainly I'm not a mega donor by any means, but I can use it to by more useful things like survival necessities rather than waste it on politicians who make hollow promises.

My wallet is closed now to ALL politicians.

[Absalom]

Yeah, but that's not part of what matters according to the UN guidelines we have for some reason attached our nut sack to. Refugees are fleeing violence, not poverty.

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Doubt it has anything to do w/poverty or violence.
From a picture of their waistlines bet their trying to get some exercise.

[Sanguine]

Perhaps....but if the yare going to ask me for money, they darn well better be listening or they shouldn't expect another penny.  Not that my withholding money is going to make any difference at this point in time and certainly I'm not a mega donor by any means, but I can use it to by more useful things like survival necessities rather than waste it on politicians who make hollow promises.

My wallet is closed now to ALL politicians.

@libertybele Because you got an auto-reply on an auto-text?  I'm not trying to pick a fight; I'm just trying to understand.

[libertybele]

Because you got an auto-reply on an auto-text?  I'm not trying to pick a fight; I'm just trying to understand.

@Sanguine, I'm upset over the situation to begin with and getting an auto-reply text just made me realize that we are expected to open our wallets ... meanwhile ... as @INVAR  stated, who's listening?

Trump won on the promise of a wall and no amnesty.  He has kept his promise on neither; meanwhile he's campaigning for Ted.  I would love to hear his speech at this rally and see if there is any mention on the current invasion and what he plans to do. 

It appears that we've once again, been given a lot of lip service.  Nope, I've never been a Trump supporter.  I've given him credit when due, but he's packpedaled on some issues and this appears to be one of them.

So ... why waste my money?

[INVAR]

No, it illustrates that she replied to a mass text and got an automatic response back.  Sheesh.

Exactly.

It is all "our government" is capable of, because they do not listen To We The People. 

They have shown us as much, time and again - but like fools, we continue to lie to ourselves because accepting the truth of what is happening in front of our faces is too horrible to allow ourselves to accept.

It's the stage of Denial in the throes of grief over a death.

Some of us are already at the place of Acceptance.

[Sanguine]

@Sanguine, I'm upset over the situation to begin with and getting an auto-reply text just made me realize that we are expected to open our wallets ... meanwhile ... as @INVAR  stated, who's listening?

Trump won on the promise of a wall and no amnesty.  He has kept his promise on neither; meanwhile he's campaigning for Ted.  I would love to hear his speech at this rally and see if there is any mention on the current invasion and what he plans to do. 

It appears that we've once again, been given a lot of lip service.  Nope, I've never been a Trump supporter.  I've given him credit when due, but he's packpedaled on some issues and this appears to be one of them.

So ... why waste my money?

OK, I can understand much of that.  I too have become very stingy lately and only contribute to a few things, like Cruz and Judicial Watch.  No political party or PAC.   

[Sanguine]

Exactly.

It is all "our government" is capable of, because they do not listen To We The People. 

They have shown us as much, time and again - but like fools, we continue to lie to ourselves because accepting the truth of what is happening in front of our faces is too horrible to allow ourselves to accept.

It's the stage of Denial in the throes of grief over a death.

Some of us are already at the place of Acceptance.

I believe that kind reductionism is dangerous and defeatist.

[Emjay]

OK, I can understand much of that.  I too have become very stingy lately and only contribute to a few things, like Cruz and Judicial Watch.  No political party or PAC.

I only contribute to the Salvation Army, DFW Lab Rescue, and individual candidates like Ted Cruz.

Safeway is always wanting me to add a contribution to my bill but the one time I asked to be told exactly where it was going, nobody had an answer.  So, punch 'no thanks' totally guilt free.

[INVAR]

I believe that kind reductionism is dangerous and defeatist.

Not if you want to survive it is not.

Being in denial is far more dangerous, because you will not act or do what needs to be done to save yourself when the shock of what is happening to you occurs.

Wishful thinking is deadly and so is blind faith.

[Sanguine]

Not if you want to survive it is not.

Being in denial is far more dangerous, because you will not act or do what needs to be done to save yourself when the shock of what is happening to you occurs.

Wishful thinking is deadly and so is blind faith.

History shows that those who are flexible, adaptable, open to changing information and humble are those most likely to survive.

But, I'm not going to argue with you; I know how pointless that is.

[libertybele]

History shows that those who are flexible, adaptable, open to changing information and humble are those most likely to survive.

But, I'm not going to argue with you; I know how pointless that is.

Over my lifetime I have been flexible and adaptable and it has helped tremendously in dealing with the hardships that I have encountered.  However, being flexible and adaptable when it comes to the sovereignty of this country is not an option. 

Legal immigration into this country is one thing; finding a loophole under the guise of asylum is quite another.  Invasion is taking place and I don't see a whole lot of room for flexibility or adaptation - that would be mere surrender.

[rustynail]

"If socialism is so great, why isn't the caravan marching toward Venezuela?"

[Sanguine]

Over my lifetime I have been flexible and adaptable and it has helped tremendously in dealing with the hardships that I have encountered.  However, being flexible and adaptable when it comes to the sovereignty of this country is not an option. 

Legal immigration into this country is one thing; finding a loophole under the guise of asylum is quite another.  Invasion is taking place and I don't see a whole lot of room for flexibility or adaptation - that would be mere surrender.

I'm not suggesting that we compromise on illegal immigration. In fact, I have seen this as one of our top few serious problems for many years and have always spoken out and done what I can to encourage our government enforce our laws.

I am saying that when someone reduces complex problems to simple, black and white, bumper-sticker type thoughts, and becomes incapable of even considering other points of view - not accepting them necessarily, but understanding them and possibly admitting that there are other legitimate ideas and beliefs, that is a serious problem.  You can't argue with a person like that.  Committed leftists are like that - introducing facts, logic and reason have absolutely no effect on them and they have a simplistic, rote, memorized answer for every counterpoint.  They have become so full of hubris that they KNOW they are the only ones who are correct ad everyone else is wrong. 

(And, I'm clearly not talking about you.)

[Victoria33]

Oh, most definitely. Only point I was trying to make is people will make it a priority when refugees are close to their homes.

@libertybele

I am glad I am north of Dallas and not in the house I own near Houston.  I have a paid man who checks my house and I am glad to have him; I'm sort of his asst. mom and he is my sort of adopted son.  I cannot imagine what is going to happen when these wanderers reach the border.  A mass that large could push down/get over any type barrier. 

As I have told you, I think people are going to die.  How many more days until they reach our border?