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How much evidence do we need to destroy someone?
« on: September 20, 2018, 11:38:28 pm »
Washington Post By Marc A. Thiessen 9/20/2018

How much evidence is required to destroy a person’s life?

Christine Blasey Ford has accused Brett M. Kavanaugh of attempted rape while they were both in high school — a charge he unequivocally denies. She can’t remember the date the alleged attack took place. She isn’t even certain about the year (although she reportedly thinks it may have been the summer around the end of her sophomore year when she was 15). She can’t remember whose house she was in. She can’t remember how she got there. She says she didn’t tell anyone about it at the time, not even her closest friends — so there are no contemporaneous witnesses to back her claims.

No other women have come forward to say that the young Kavanaugh assaulted them. There is no pattern of bad behavior. Quite the contrary, by all accounts other than Ford’s, he treats women with respect in his personal and professional life. (Full disclosure: I worked with Kavanaugh in the George W. Bush White House.) The gathering included just Ford and four others, according to her confidential letter to Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.). One man named by Ford as a witness has come forward and not only denied knowledge of the assault but also denied knowledge of the gathering in question. Another, who said he was the “PJ” mentioned in the letter, Patrick J. Smyth, has also denied being at a gathering like the one Ford described.

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Re: How much evidence do we need to destroy someone?
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2018, 11:48:40 pm »
How much evidence do we need to destroy someone?

Apparently none..just the accusation is good enough.
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Re: How much evidence do we need to destroy someone?
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Re: How much evidence do we need to destroy someone?
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2018, 03:01:39 am »
I'm hearing that Joe DiGenova said Ms. Ford went to WaPo first, about a month before the Feinstein letter and tried to push her story on them but still, with anonymity. WaPo apparently, did not run with it like they did with the Judge Roy Moore story. They must have thought it needed corroboration.

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Re: How much evidence do we need to destroy someone?
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2018, 05:06:20 am »
I'm hearing that Joe DiGenova said Ms. Ford went to WaPo first, about a month before the Feinstein letter and tried to push her story on them but still, with anonymity. WaPo apparently, did not run with it like they did with the Judge Roy Moore story. They must have thought it needed corroboration.


More likely after hearing her story they said, "Not with a ten foot pole."
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Re: How much evidence do we need to destroy someone?
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2018, 05:09:32 am »
I'm hearing that Joe DiGenova said Ms. Ford went to WaPo first, about a month before the Feinstein letter and tried to push her story on them but still, with anonymity. WaPo apparently, did not run with it like they did with the Judge Roy Moore story. They must have thought it needed corroboration.
Keep in mind that the Moore allegations were tendered by people with either an axe to grind or serious dem party ties, but only one of those allegations (the one with the most credibility problems) alleged he did anything with someone who was under the age of consent.
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Re: How much evidence do we need to destroy someone?
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2018, 05:19:22 am »
Keep in mind that the Moore allegations were tendered by people with either an axe to grind or serious dem party ties, but only one of those allegations (the one with the most credibility problems) alleged he did anything with someone who was under the age of consent.


This woman is so far over the edge I wouldn't be surprised if she showed up to testify wearing a pink Bleep hat.
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Re: How much evidence do we need to destroy someone?
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2018, 05:26:27 am »

This woman is so far over the edge I wouldn't be surprised if she showed up to testify wearing a pink Bleep hat.
Without the ability to hype the "He's dating teenagers" line, and without any corroborating stories to push at Kavanaugh, this likely will not stick--not that I think it should. Keep in mind that 40 years ago, a brisk slap was all that was needed to refute an unwanted touch, or even just to keep a girl's reputation intact. It wasn't a matter for prosecution, unless the groper was especially persistent or forcible.
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Re: How much evidence do we need to destroy someone?
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2018, 04:03:10 pm »
I'm hearing that Joe DiGenova said Ms. Ford went to WaPo first, about a month before the Feinstein letter and tried to push her story on them but still, with anonymity. WaPo apparently, did not run with it like they did with the Judge Roy Moore story. They must have thought it needed corroboration.

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Also, Moore’s victims didn’t seek out the Post.  WaPo got wind of things, went down South, investigated, and found the women. Different set of circumstances entirely.