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California's Fuel Economy Power Grab is Hijacking the American Car
« on: September 18, 2018, 04:40:34 pm »
California's Fuel Economy Power Grab is Hijacking the American Car
https://www.realclearenergy.org/articles/2018/09/18/californias_fuel_economy_power_grab_is_hijacking_the_american_car__110337.html
September 18, 2018

...California’s air pollution standards are more rigorous than the rest of the country, thanks to special authority to grant the state via waiver under the Clean Air Act (CAA). You might ask yourself, what does air pollution in California have to do with the fuel economy of cars manufactured in places like Michigan and Ohio and sold across the country? Thanks to this special waiver and help from the Obama administration, California now exerts outsized influence on the entire American automobile market.

In 2009 and again in 2013, the Environmental Protection Agency granted California CAA waivers allowing the state to regulate greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions from vehicles at levels more stringent than those set by EPA. It’s not an explicit regulation on vehicle fuel economy. But since the only practical way for automakers to achieve greater GHG reductions is by boosting fuel economy, the effect is the same. The root problem is a separate federal law that already regulates fuel economy.

The Energy Policy and Conservation Act (EPCA) was created to reduce American dependence on foreign oil by enforcing policies such as the corporate average fuel economy (CAFE) standards. Unlike California’s special power to impose requirements in excess of the CAA, California is explicitly preempted from regulating fuel economy under EPCA. Here’s where the power grab comes in.

The population of California is huge, almost 40 million, which means automakers can’t afford to bypass the entire market. In addition, while no other states enjos the authority to craft their own CAA standards, they can choose to adopt those of California — and some have. Thus, the American automarket is now subject to multiple sets of standards....
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Re: California's Fuel Economy Power Grab is Hijacking the American Car
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2018, 04:47:01 pm »
Cali has ALWAYS had their own standards for cars sold in their state going back to the early 70's. They had California Equipment Packages. Some cars couldn't even be sold in Cali. That is what will happen here. Cali will not be able to buy certain vehicles or they will be set up with certain features while the rest of the country can buy whatever they want. Let's not forget that automakers are not as reliant on this basketcase state as in the past. They have foreign markets now like China.

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Re: California's Fuel Economy Power Grab is Hijacking the American Car
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2018, 06:10:43 pm »
I thought manufacturers were slowing down the production of new cars anyway in favor of SUVs and trucks.

Title misleading?
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Re: California's Fuel Economy Power Grab is Hijacking the American Car
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2018, 07:34:15 pm »
I thought manufacturers were slowing down the production of new cars anyway in favor of SUVs and trucks.

Title misleading?

Does the title have to list every type of vehicle?

California CAFE standards also impact SUV and light trucks.
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Re: California's Fuel Economy Power Grab is Hijacking the American Car
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2018, 08:12:15 pm »
Does the title have to list every type of vehicle?

California CAFE standards also impact SUV and light trucks.
Well, it seems Ford will not be making many cars that will be impacted.

The title should have said vehicles, instead of cars.

We need to squash the Obama-imposed standards once and for all.



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Re: California's Fuel Economy Power Grab is Hijacking the American Car
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2018, 08:52:50 pm »
Cali has ALWAYS had their own standards for cars sold in their state going back to the early 70's. They had California Equipment Packages. Some cars couldn't even be sold in Cali. That is what will happen here. Cali will not be able to buy certain vehicles or they will be set up with certain features while the rest of the country can buy whatever they want. Let's not forget that automakers are not as reliant on this basketcase state as in the past. They have foreign markets now like China.

Very astute observation.  They wielded a lot of power back in the dark days of CAFE and emission blackmail.  But that ship has sailed. 

Of course the auto company ceo's only live by the most recent monthly sales numbers and panic when they see a dip in sales.   They don't understand how a long term strategy would really help them by not caving to commie Cali now. 
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Re: California's Fuel Economy Power Grab is Hijacking the American Car
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2018, 09:00:52 pm »
Very astute observation.  They wielded a lot of power back in the dark days of CAFE and emission blackmail.  But that ship has sailed. 

Of course the auto company ceo's only live by the most recent monthly sales numbers and panic when they see a dip in sales.   They don't understand how a long term strategy would really help them by not caving to commie Cali now.

If I remember you couldn't buy a Lean Burn Chrysler product in Cali or Denver back in the 70's because of these bullshit local regulations. Somehow thought those cars showed up in those areas anyway.

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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2018, 09:13:03 pm »
If I remember you couldn't buy a Lean Burn Chrysler product in Cali or Denver back in the 70's because of these bullshit local regulations. Somehow thought those cars showed up in those areas anyway.

Same for the Trans Am in 77.  No 400 poncho's could be sold there.  They dropped a pos station wagon smog boat anchor of an engine in them...the Olds 403 to get Cali and High Altitude cert.   By 1979  GM totally caved and gave up and submitted to the rat bastards standards.
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