Millennials would rather live in socialist or communist nation than under capitalism: Poll

[rangerrebew]

Millennials would rather live in socialist or communist nation than under capitalism: Poll

'This troubling turn highlights widespread historical illiteracy in American society'
 
By Bradford Richardson - The Washington Times - Saturday, November 4, 2017

The majority of millennials would prefer to live in a socialist, communist or fascist nation rather than a capitalistic one, according to a new poll.

In the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation’s “Annual Report on U.S. Attitudes Toward Socialism,” 58 percent of the up-and-coming generation opted for one of the three systems, compared to 42 percent who said they were in favor of capitalism.

The most popular socioeconomic order was socialism, with 44 percent support. Communism and fascism received 7 percent support each.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/nov/4/majority-millennials-want-live-socialist-fascist-o/

[SZonian]

Well, when coupled with this story, is it any wonder?   

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,332182.msg1793634/topicseen.html#msg1793634

[INVAR]

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free." - Ronald Reagan

So the Millennial generation will be the ones who close the book on liberty in this country for good, because we did not pass it on to our children and did not fight beyond voting for politicians.

Simple numbers really.  And when the debt and the laws of Economics reasserts itself over all our heads when all the artificial attempts to defy it come crashing down - Socialism/Communism will be even more palpable and demanded by a people who will then truly believe that liberty and Capitalism were to blame for it.

[Fishrrman]

Gonna be tough times ahead.

Real tough, before they get better.

IF they ever "get better"...

[roamer_1]

It doesn't surprise me.
Youth is stupid, and always has been...

Let em get out of college, and outta Mom's house... Left em take a punch or two in the cold cruel world, and then see where their loyalties lie.

[austingirl]

Breathtakingly ignorant of everything except how to use a phone.

[Absalom]

So another urinary contest between the capitalist & socialist fan clubs is about to begin. Hmm........
A reflection.
Around 8,500 BC Agriculture and Animal Domestication commenced in the Fertile Crescent.
As the centuries passed, one characteristic remained prominent in these cultures/societies,
namely the primacy of the spiritual as the anchor of the moral order of Man.
Then around 1750 AD, the Industrial Revolution was born, altering the previous characteristic
and hardly for the better.
Materialism emerged as the measure of achievement, namely how much stuff one has.
What is the conflict between capitalism and socialism about???
The primacy/non-primacy of the spiritual as the anchor of the moral order???
Why don't be silly; it's all about who has the best and most stuff.
For the Capitalist it's communal voluntarism while for the Socialist its collective non-voluntarism.
So what, as they're both talking about stuff/materialism and their ultimate objective is
direct and simple, namely POWER!!!
Anyone who truly believes that the very serious malaise that impacts our nation at its very core,
can/will be solved though economic betterment is well beyond delusional!!!


   

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

No, Millennials would rather live under socialism or communism than in a capitalist country.

IOW, they'd rather live in a country that puts up a wall on the border to keep people in, not out.

[goatprairie]

I would bet a lot of money that if you asked  millennials about the situation in Venezuela, many of them would respond with "what's a Venezuela?"

[corbe]

   Surprisingly many (that I know) have already been incarcerated at some point or another and still hoard bologna sandwiches,  Strange Times, Indeed.

[goatprairie]

   Surprisingly many (that I know) have already been incarcerated at some point or another and still hoard bologna sandwiches,  Strange Times, Indeed.

"at some point or another and still hoard bologna sandwiches,"

You wrote that like there's something strange or wrong with hoarding bologna sandwiches. 

[corbe]

   Been there, done that, Freezing cold and all I had on was wet swim trunks, a TShirt and a good Drunk, my nipples were probably hard, I dared not reach for that sandwich the Guard threw towards me.
   Unlike these fools, I was in the AF in the early 70's on a SAC Base, I already knew what incarceration was about.

[dfwgator]

I'll buy them a ticket to Cuba, then.

[GtHawk]

It doesn't surprise me.
Youth is stupid, and always has been...

Let em get out of college, and outta Mom's house... Left em take a punch or two in the cold cruel world, and then see where their loyalties lie.

I am sure that most of the Millennials that respond this way are college and University indoctri.....er, educated. I have two nieces that were raised Conservative, both highly intelligent and both with Masters and both now uber liberal on most things except thank God retain their Catholic values on abortion. One of my nephews a new Masters in Mechanical Engineering is now a Gaia worshiping man made global warming liberal while his brother(no college, no degree) is conservative.   My son after University with a Masters in English........liberal, while my daughter with no college remains conservative. So I contend the liberals and communists have succeeded in indoctrinating many many of our children in the higher education..................re education camps.

[Wingnut]

“It’s tough being a socialist. It really is.”
I'm on the Venezuelan diet right now.  I figure by Christmas I'll be real thin.

[roamer_1]

I am sure that most of the Millennials that respond this way are college and University indoctri.....er, educated. I have two nieces that were raised Conservative, both highly intelligent and both with Masters and both now uber liberal on most things except thank God retain their Catholic values on abortion. One of my nephews a new Masters in Mechanical Engineering is now a Gaia worshiping man made global warming liberal while his brother(no college, no degree) is conservative.   My son after University with a Masters in English........liberal, while my daughter with no college remains conservative. So I contend the liberals and communists have succeeded in indoctrinating many many of our children in the higher education..................re education camps.

@GtHawk
That's right... And I agree with the sentiment... Both my daughters are lost to the indoctrination centers... One likely permanently. I hold out hope for the other.

And it is a worthy hope. A close relative was a screaming liberal for a while, till she wound up busted flat and pregnant at my father's house... with her husband disappeared and strung out on crack... An AMAZING story. God is SO good! The happy ending includes a political shift to right-side libertarian, which is damn well good enough for me!

Both my sons are Conservatives So I lucked out there.

[GtHawk]

@GtHawk
That's right... And I agree with the sentiment... Both my daughters are lost to the indoctrination centers... One likely permanently. I hold out hope for the other.

And it is a worthy hope. A close relative was a screaming liberal for a while, till she wound up busted flat and pregnant at my father's house... with her husband disappeared and strung out on crack... An AMAZING story. God is SO good! The happy ending includes a political shift to right-side libertarian, which is damn well good enough for me!

Both my sons are Conservatives So I lucked out there.

@roamer_1
I still remember years ago, my son was living at home and unemployed back when he was getting his teaching credentials, and Obama was jacking up taxes and sh*tcare, my son opined that he didn't mind paying more in taxes to benefit others. I was laughing pretty hard when I reminded him that he wasn't paying any damn taxes at all! Now he married, to another totally indoctrinated woman( she has a signed picture of the kenyan and his, ugh, wife on display) , they both make good money but owe huge amounts in student loans and have two children to raise. Maybe one day I'll ask him if he's still happy to pay extra taxes...............but I want to see my granddaughters again.

[roamer_1]

@roamer_1
I still remember years ago, my son was living at home and unemployed back when he was getting his teaching credentials, and Obama was jacking up taxes and sh*tcare, my son opined that he didn't mind paying more in taxes to benefit others. I was laughing pretty hard when I reminded him that he wasn't paying any damn taxes at all! Now he married, to another totally indoctrinated woman( she has a signed picture of the kenyan and his, ugh, wife on display) , they both make good money but owe huge amounts in student loans and have two children to raise. Maybe one day I'll ask him if he's still happy to pay extra taxes...............but I want to see my granddaughters again.

@GtHawk

My eldest son and his wife just bailed out their loans (she a nurse, he a LEO) the old fashioned capitalist way... They fixed up their home and sold it, and made enough on equity to pay off the loans.
Proud as hell of that...

[GtHawk]

@GtHawk

My eldest son and his wife just bailed out their loans (she a nurse, he a LEO) the old fashioned capitalist way... They fixed up their home and sold it, and made enough on equity to pay off the loans.
Proud as hell of that...

 

[Smokin Joe]

Typical starry eyed kid Socialists. They'll love it until they run out of other people's money.

[LMAO]

I heard young people when I was in college many years ago pine for socialism. So this isn't terribly unusual for young people to have this viewpoint. They haven't experienced the real world yet and socialism sounds good to them now

[Smokin Joe]

I heard young people when I was in college many years ago pine for socialism. So this isn't terribly unusual for young people to have this viewpoint. They haven't experienced the real world yet and socialism sounds good to them now

True, that. There was even a card carrying Marx spewing Communist in a couple of my college classes (in 1978!),

[roamer_1]

True, that. There was even a card carrying Marx spewing Communist in a couple of my college classes (in 1978!),

You mean, like... Other than the teachers?

[Smokin Joe]

You mean, like... Other than the teachers?

I spent most of my time in science or math classes, even took archaeology courses to satisfy the 'humanities' requirement, so I avoided Socialist profs entirely. There were not so thick on a college campus then (I graduated in '78).