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Suppressed · « **on:** September 09, 2018, 02:08:31 am »

Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge
Sep 8, 2018,7:50 pm
Gordon Kelly Contributor
Consumer Tech

Microsoft has always described Windows 10 â€œas a serviceâ€ and leaks have already revealed new monthly charges are coming. Of course, for Windows 7 owners this was never something they expected to pay. But times changeâ€¦

In a new blog post entitled â€œHelping customers shift to a modern desktopâ€, Microsoft has announced that it will indeed start charging Windows 7 customers a monthly fee from January 14th 2020, if they want to keep their computers safe.

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2018/09/08/microsoft-windows-7-monthly-charge-windows-10-free-upgrade-cost/amp/

Suppressed · « **Reply #1 on:** September 09, 2018, 02:08:52 am »

@corbe

mystery-ak · « **Reply #2 on:** September 09, 2018, 02:25:14 am »

damn them...that's me....I have until 2020...I'll just buy a new computer or maybe just stop downloading updates>>..

corbe · « **Reply #3 on:** September 09, 2018, 02:29:09 am »

The techies will figure a way around this but it will be too complicated for most to understand because it will require a Reboot.

Sighlass · « **Reply #4 on:** September 09, 2018, 02:50:48 am »

Yall be pining for my XP operating system soon enough...

roamer_1 · « **Reply #5 on:** September 09, 2018, 02:54:03 am »

I don't think Win10 as a service is true. They may begin charging a service to hook up to all their crap... But the OS will remain as it is...

If Win10 as a service DOES come true, there's a dozen or so machines here that will be running Linux the next day, and I will be makin bank moving folks onto Mint.

Snarknado · « **Reply #6 on:** September 16, 2018, 12:47:31 pm »

Quote from: roamer_1 on September 09, 2018, 02:54:03 am

I don't think Win10 as a service is true. They may begin charging a service to hook up to all their crap... But the OS will remain as it is...

If Win10 as a service DOES come true, there's a dozen or so machines here that will be running Linux the next day, and I will be makin bank moving folks onto Mint.

It makes sense for them though - they can't squeeze out much one-time profit on a $250 Win10 laptop.

I wonder how they've fared so far with MS Office as a service? I also wonder about the possibility of bundling Word and Excel into a low-end version of Win10 that wouldn't cannibalize corporate sales. They obviously want students indoctrinated into their ecosystem, but I suppose they have other options to achieve that...

Weird Tolkienish Figure · « **Reply #7 on:** September 16, 2018, 12:52:32 pm »

Says it's targeted towards businesses.

Between this crap and the warning not to install Google Chrome crap, I wonder what degenerates are running Microsoft these days, and if they really do want to drive people to Linux for good.

Blizzardnh · « **Reply #8 on:** September 16, 2018, 01:12:47 pm »

Quote from: roamer_1 on September 09, 2018, 02:54:03 am

I don't think Win10 as a service is true. They may begin charging a service to hook up to all their crap... But the OS will remain as it is...

If Win10 as a service DOES come true, there's a dozen or so machines here that will be running Linux the next day, and I will be makin bank moving folks onto Mint.

Five computers here, four are mint and one is a dual boot with mint and win 10.

roamer_1 · « **Reply #9 on:** September 16, 2018, 08:09:18 pm »

Quote from: Blizzardnh on September 16, 2018, 01:12:47 pm

Five computers here, four are mint and one is a dual boot with mint and win 10.

Yeah... I fix em for a living, and I learn by doing... thus I remain a Windows house... That and interactivity problems... If there was a reliable SAMBA, I would at least be an hybrid network, even now. It is mostly all one way or the other.

roamer_1 · « **Reply #10 on:** September 16, 2018, 08:11:10 pm »

Quote from: Snarknado on September 16, 2018, 12:47:31 pm

It makes sense for them though - they can't squeeze out much one-time profit on a $250 Win10 laptop.

I wonder how they've fared so far with MS Office as a service? I also wonder about the possibility of bundling Word and Excel into a low-end version of Win10 that wouldn't cannibalize corporate sales. They obviously want students indoctrinated into their ecosystem, but I suppose they have other options to achieve that...

I don't think it will make sense. I think people will flee. I know I will.

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #11 on:** September 16, 2018, 10:33:52 pm »

Quote from: roamer_1 on September 16, 2018, 08:11:10 pm

I don't think it will make sense. I think people will flee. I know I will.

I will too. In fact, since I'm retiring this week I'm inclined to get my next machine without Windows at all. I only kept it to maintain platform compatibility with my work software.

catfish1957 · « **Reply #12 on:** September 16, 2018, 10:48:36 pm »

Paying ransom for an OS that you already buy when you buy the PC?

In my eyes MS. is no better than those scammers who extort people with malware.

DB · « **Reply #13 on:** September 16, 2018, 10:49:39 pm »

MS got very wealthy in the OS business. I started with DOS 1.? or 2.01, I don't clearly remember. Now they are trying to dictate terms on how their OS is used by customers, calling it a "service". They need to pay a heavy price for this.

I just purchased a new XPS15 I9 computer with Windows 10 because I need a portable computer with near workstation horsepower. Something I very grudgingly did due to my past experiences with Windows 10. And they keep on sticking in more knives... Sooner than later it is going to be 1 knife too many.

roamer_1 · « **Reply #14 on:** September 16, 2018, 10:50:10 pm »

Quote from: Cyber Liberty on September 16, 2018, 10:33:52 pm

I will too. In fact, since I'm retiring this week I'm inclined to get my next machine without Windows at all. I only kept it to maintain platform compatibility with my work software.

I am BIG on Mint... Pretty much any Debian... Ubuntu's new interface is brilliant on the TVs... If it wasn't for streaming media from my main TV box, all of my TV's would be running Ubuntu... Touching once again on the difficulties of an hybrid network...

I am not doing much in development anymore, and I would really easily switch gears out of 'computer tech' The money ain't that great at it anymore anyway, and I am BONE TIRED of retrieving data from busted HDDs, thumbs, and SD cards...

YUP. I could become a Linux house just about overnight.

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #15 on:** September 16, 2018, 11:12:55 pm »

@roamer_1 Is Mint plug 'n' Play with USB peripherals?

roamer_1 · « **Reply #16 on:** September 16, 2018, 11:19:15 pm »

Quote from: Cyber Liberty on September 16, 2018, 11:12:55 pm

@roamer_1 Is Mint plug 'n' Play with USB peripherals?

Pretty much. I had a couple USB toasters that didn't read... both the same brand. Every now and then a cheap-seats thumb... Printers and such, I wouldn't know... Been fully digital for a long time.

Weird Tolkienish Figure · « **Reply #17 on:** September 16, 2018, 11:24:50 pm »

I dual boot Ubuntu on both my computers, although I never boot into it, except when needed, like when I was playing with Kubernetes. My work is nearly 100% playing in the cloud these days.

I hardly ever use a traditional PC at home anyway, 90% of the time it's my phone, or my tablet, or my media streaming devices, etc. etc.

Snarknado · « **Reply #18 on:** September 16, 2018, 11:29:00 pm »

Quote from: roamer_1 on September 16, 2018, 08:11:10 pm

I don't think it will make sense. I think people will flee. I know I will.

I meant to say that it makes sense for them to try . With 3 active PC's I'd probably convert 2 for sure. The 3rd would be a problem, with migrating away from Office and some video capture and editing packages.

Unfortunately I'd have to guess that even at ~$6-8/mo MS could lose half their customer base and still come out way ahead.

OTOH, make the market 4x+ times more lucrative and Apple might well decide to unbundle the Mac OS, a potential nightmare for MS...

Smokin Joe · « **Reply #19 on:** September 16, 2018, 11:30:56 pm »

Quote from: Sighlass on September 09, 2018, 02:50:48 am

Yall be pining for my XP operating system soon enough...

I'm still running XP on all but one machine. That's a Win10, but I haven't even fired it up yet.

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #20 on:** September 16, 2018, 11:32:24 pm »

Quote from: roamer_1 on September 16, 2018, 11:19:15 pm

Pretty much. I had a couple USB toasters that didn't read... both the same brand. Every now and then a cheap-seats thumb... Printers and such, I wouldn't know... Been fully digital for a long time.

My printer is on my router. Hopefully it can be found by the Linux.

Mrs. Liberty has a W7 laptop machine (Lenovo), and we're not interested in paying ransom to keep it running Windows7, or the pain of trying to upgrade an old box to W10. She just needs it to surf the web and print.

Weird Tolkienish Figure · « **Reply #21 on:** September 16, 2018, 11:34:26 pm »

It looks like you would still be allowed to run older OSes all you want, instead of not getting updates (as with XP), you would be able to get them if you paid for them.

They should have done this with XP, I bet a lot of people would have paid to run XP rather than abandoned it entirely.

roamer_1 · « **Reply #22 on:** September 16, 2018, 11:37:02 pm »

Quote from: Cyber Liberty on September 16, 2018, 11:32:24 pm

My printer is on my router. Hopefully it can be found by the Linux.

Mrs. Liberty has a W7 laptop machine (Lenovo), and we're not interested in paying ransom to keep it running Windows7, or the pain of trying to upgrade an old box to W10. She just needs it to surf the web and print.

As always. DL a mint ISO and boot it live before install. If it works, it works. And it likely will.

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #23 on:** September 16, 2018, 11:39:31 pm »

Quote from: roamer_1 on September 16, 2018, 11:37:02 pm

As always. DL a mint ISO and boot it live before install. If it works, it works. And it likely will.

That's the plan. I need to go out and buy some RW DVDs. (I assume the bootables don't come on CDROM anymore? Haven't DLed one in ages.) Boot off a thumb maybe?

Frank Cannon · « **Reply #24 on:** September 16, 2018, 11:41:15 pm »

That's it. I'm going back to DOS.