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Re: New Poll Shows Almost No Daylight Between Ted Cruz And Beto O’Rourke; Abbott Up Big
« Reply #50 on: August 28, 2018, 12:36:38 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on August 28, 2018, 12:22:28 pm
Texas isn't going blue.  Look at the numbers in the governor's race for proof of that.   This race is a referendum on Cruz -  a guy who rubs lots of folks the wrong way.
Rubbing guys the right way is how we have deteriorated Congress and the Executive Bureaucracy into a cesspool.

We need these guys who swim against the current to break up the 'System'.
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Re: New Poll Shows Almost No Daylight Between Ted Cruz And Beto O’Rourke; Abbott Up Big
« Reply #51 on: August 28, 2018, 12:41:38 pm »
This is just another leftist media ploy to sway public opinion away from Cruz. Note that they are exaggerating the so called independent voting numbers.
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Re: New Poll Shows Almost No Daylight Between Ted Cruz And Beto O’Rourke; Abbott Up Big
« Reply #52 on: August 28, 2018, 01:02:09 pm »
Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on August 28, 2018, 12:36:38 pm
Rubbing guys the right way is how we have deteriorated Congress and the Executive Bureaucracy into a cesspool.

We need these guys who swim against the current to break up the 'System'.

I'm not saying I wouldn't vote for Cruz if I were a Texan.   I like his policy prescriptions.   So should most Texans.   But the reason his race is so close, and the Texas governor's race is shaping up to be a blowout, has to do with stuff other than policy or even conservatism.    There's no reason for me to go into it here.   Let's hope he wins - we need the seat.   
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Re: New Poll Shows Almost No Daylight Between Ted Cruz And Beto O’Rourke; Abbott Up Big
« Reply #53 on: August 28, 2018, 01:16:39 pm »
Quote from: sneakypete on August 28, 2018, 02:11:48 am
How can a newbie just come in and take it away from him?

Beto may be new to those outside Texas, but he has been in Texas a long time and active in Politics for a while.  He has served a 3 terms as El Paso US Representative.
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Re: New Poll Shows Almost No Daylight Between Ted Cruz And Beto O’Rourke; Abbott Up Big
« Reply #54 on: August 28, 2018, 02:13:14 pm »
Quote from: RetBobbyMI on August 28, 2018, 12:41:38 pm
This is just another leftist media ploy to sway public opinion away from Cruz. Note that they are exaggerating the so called independent voting numbers.

Cruz has been seriously underestimated at pretty much every turn in his career. 
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Re: New Poll Shows Almost No Daylight Between Ted Cruz And Beto O’Rourke; Abbott Up Big
« Reply #55 on: August 28, 2018, 02:18:19 pm »
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on August 28, 2018, 02:50:43 am
Oh come on Frank.  Talk about a circus your boy Trump manufactured a story for the Enquirer about Ted and women.  He was the one paying hush money to the whores he had.  Then more circus acts he paints Teds father as involved in JFK assassination.  That's pretty embarrassing behavior.  He and his Pecker friend had some good circus acts.
Not to mention slandering Cruz with every tweet.
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Re: New Poll Shows Almost No Daylight Between Ted Cruz And Beto O’Rourke; Abbott Up Big
« Reply #56 on: August 28, 2018, 02:19:30 pm »
Quote from: DB on August 28, 2018, 05:02:14 am
Who wants a turncoat lying Goldman Sachs puppet with an ugly wife in the Senate anyway?

Was there anyone more hated by Trump supporters? I can't think of anyone.

More "winning"! MAGA!

@DB 

I don't hate Cruz and never have. I just didn't support  him because there is just something about him personally that creeps me out.  Can't quite put my finger on it,but that doesn't matter because I trust my instincts.
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Re: New Poll Shows Almost No Daylight Between Ted Cruz And Beto O’Rourke; Abbott Up Big
« Reply #57 on: August 28, 2018, 02:20:26 pm »
Quote from: thackney on August 28, 2018, 01:16:39 pm
Beto may be new to those outside Texas, but he has been in Texas a long time and active in Politics for a while.  He has served a 3 terms as El Paso US Representative.

Can you tell me when it was that someone from El Paso won a statewide race in Texas?
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Re: New Poll Shows Almost No Daylight Between Ted Cruz And Beto O’Rourke; Abbott Up Big
« Reply #58 on: August 28, 2018, 02:22:38 pm »
Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on August 28, 2018, 12:36:38 pm
Rubbing guys the right way is how we have deteriorated Congress and the Executive Bureaucracy into a cesspool.



@IsailedawayfromFR

"Rubbing guys the right way" sure worked for Barney Frank,Chuck Todd,and a high percentage of the rest of the leftist politicians and talking heads.
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Re: New Poll Shows Almost No Daylight Between Ted Cruz And Beto O’Rourke; Abbott Up Big
« Reply #59 on: August 28, 2018, 02:22:48 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on August 28, 2018, 02:20:26 pm
Can you tell me when it was that someone from El Paso won a statewide race in Texas?

Something tells me this race will swing to Cruz and it won't be that close.
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Re: New Poll Shows Almost No Daylight Between Ted Cruz And Beto O’Rourke; Abbott Up Big
« Reply #60 on: August 28, 2018, 02:24:13 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on August 28, 2018, 02:22:48 pm
Something tells me this race will swing to Cruz and it won't be that close.

Me too.
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Re: New Poll Shows Almost No Daylight Between Ted Cruz And Beto O’Rourke; Abbott Up Big
« Reply #61 on: August 28, 2018, 02:25:02 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on August 28, 2018, 02:22:48 pm
Something tells me this race will swing to Cruz and it won't be that close.

Put that in the bank!

It's not even Labor Day yet and the hand-wringing is making me ROFLMAO!!!
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Re: New Poll Shows Almost No Daylight Between Ted Cruz And Beto O’Rourke; Abbott Up Big
« Reply #62 on: August 28, 2018, 02:32:27 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on August 28, 2018, 02:25:02 pm
Put that in the bank!

It's not even Labor Day yet and the hand-wringing is making me ROFLMAO!!!

I am a tad less optimistic.  I think he wins by about 5%.  Especially after he takes Beto to the woodshed in a debate.  (big if, if Beto debates now though)

I really think a lot of the mud Trump threw during camapign stuck.  Pereception is twice as powerful as fact.
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Re: New Poll Shows Almost No Daylight Between Ted Cruz And Beto O’Rourke; Abbott Up Big
« Reply #63 on: August 28, 2018, 02:44:10 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on August 28, 2018, 02:32:27 pm
I am a tad less optimistic.  I think he wins by about 5%.  Especially after he takes Beto to the woodshed in a debate.  (big if, if Beto debates now though)

I really think a lot of the mud Trump threw during camapign stuck.  Pereception is twice as powerful as fact.

I really think Ted is just a poor retail candidate ... but be that as it may.  If you really believe this is because of Ted's convention speech, then shouldn't you be contacting Cruz's office prompting him to get in touch with the President for a rally together?

Or is all this hand-wringing just supersized anxiety and Ted's on the path to victory --- which is what I'm all this is.
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Re: New Poll Shows Almost No Daylight Between Ted Cruz And Beto O’Rourke; Abbott Up Big
« Reply #64 on: August 28, 2018, 03:15:13 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on August 28, 2018, 02:20:26 pm
Can you tell me when it was that someone from El Paso won a statewide race in Texas?

Man, I'm not trying to suggest Beto is going to win.  I was responding to the comment Beto was a newbie.

Ted Cruz will win by double digits.
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Re: New Poll Shows Almost No Daylight Between Ted Cruz And Beto O’Rourke; Abbott Up Big
« Reply #65 on: August 28, 2018, 03:16:33 pm »
Quote from: thackney on August 28, 2018, 03:15:13 pm
Man, I'm not trying to suggest Beto is going to win.  I was responding to the comment Beto was a newbie.

Ted Cruz will win by double digits.

We're good!  888high58888  :beer:
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Re: New Poll Shows Almost No Daylight Between Ted Cruz And Beto O’Rourke; Abbott Up Big
« Reply #66 on: August 28, 2018, 04:28:21 pm »
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Re: New Poll Shows Almost No Daylight Between Ted Cruz And Beto O’Rourke; Abbott Up Big
« Reply #67 on: August 28, 2018, 05:02:11 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on August 28, 2018, 04:28:46 am
You are out of touch. Just look at the how he failed miserably on his Presidential run. Trump was filling stadiums while Cruz couldn't fill town halls. You may love Cruz's long winded speeches to nowhere. No one else does. We have tangible proof of that with actual election results. Ted has likability problems out the ass.

BTW it wasn't some rumor about the yard signs from Beto people. It was one of our people who actually lives there and is involved in the process...

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,329734.msg1779035.html#msg1779035

Give it up @Frank Cannon   Nothing you can say will make Ted Cruz anything less than stellar and a blessing to our country and the Senate.

He did not fail miserably in the Presidential race.  He was Trump's closest rival and Trump was terrified of him.  Ted was a virtual unknown nationwide and Trump had been a household name for years.  Trump was probably more vicious to Ted than any other rivals because he was afraid of him.

You have never heard a speech by Ted Cruz.  I know you haven't so don't lie.
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Re: New Poll Shows Almost No Daylight Between Ted Cruz And Beto O’Rourke; Abbott Up Big
« Reply #68 on: August 28, 2018, 05:05:38 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on August 28, 2018, 11:48:21 am
It's a reminder that Cruz had a lot of help when he "kicked arse" as Corbe said in 2012, 

I hope Cruz is not too proud to ask for help if he needs it now @Emjay   If he is, *this* should be what disappoints you.

@Right_in_Virginia   It's not a matter of pride.  Ted does not need Trump's help in Texas.

As for Trump, he should be helping Ted, and also praying that Ted wins.  Out of all the primary opponents Trump had, Ted Cruz has ended up being the fairest to the Trump administration.

All of his other opponents hate his guts and don't hesitate to say so.
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Re: New Poll Shows Almost No Daylight Between Ted Cruz And Beto O’Rourke; Abbott Up Big
« Reply #69 on: August 28, 2018, 05:14:11 pm »
Quote from: thackney on August 28, 2018, 03:15:13 pm
Man, I'm not trying to suggest Beto is going to win.  I was responding to the comment Beto was a newbie.

Ted Cruz will win by double digits.

Of course he will.  Meanwhile... it's nice to know which neighbors are idiots (Beto signs).  Probably infestations from California.
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Re: New Poll Shows Almost No Daylight Between Ted Cruz And Beto O’Rourke; Abbott Up Big
« Reply #70 on: August 28, 2018, 06:00:12 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on August 28, 2018, 05:02:11 pm
Give it up @Frank Cannon   Nothing you can say will make Ted Cruz anything less than stellar and a blessing to our country and the Senate.

He did not fail miserably in the Presidential race.  He was Trump's closest rival and Trump was terrified of him.  Ted was a virtual unknown nationwide and Trump had been a household name for years.  Trump was probably more vicious to Ted than any other rivals because he was afraid of him.

You have never heard a speech by Ted Cruz.  I know you haven't so don't lie.

Ted got his ass handed to him in that Presidential run. He was forced to play delegate games just to stay alive and even then he was a big fat loser. You can stay delusional all you want, but I live in the real world where real things happen.



Trump is blue and Cruz is gold.
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« Reply #71 on: August 28, 2018, 06:02:57 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on August 28, 2018, 02:44:10 pm
I really think Ted is just a poor retail candidate ...

Huh?

Last I looked Cruz won the second most delegates out of a 2016 GOP field of 17.  Try again.
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Re: New Poll Shows Almost No Daylight Between Ted Cruz And Beto O’Rourke; Abbott Up Big
« Reply #72 on: August 28, 2018, 06:06:26 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on August 28, 2018, 06:02:57 pm
Huh?

Last I looked Cruz won the second most delegates out of a 2016 GOP field of 17.  Try again.

LOL. Some second places are worse than others. Donny got 1447 and Ted got 551. Not really competitive, is it.
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« Reply #73 on: August 28, 2018, 06:10:41 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on August 28, 2018, 06:06:26 pm
LOL. Some second places are worse than others. Donny got 1447 and Ted got 551. Not really competitive, is it.

I can't help that a substntial faction of the GOP was so stupid that they got duped by this orange Trojan Horse.

It will be a political tale of the ages.
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« Reply #74 on: August 28, 2018, 06:15:08 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on August 28, 2018, 06:10:41 pm
I can't help that a substntial faction of the GOP was so stupid that they got duped by this orange Trojan Horse.

It will be a political tale of the ages.

Listen. You are the one pimping that Ted was such a dynamo on the campaign trail and now claiming Primary voters were dopes. Now Ted is showing weakness in a slam dunk race and all you folks are spinning that everything is fine. Ted has only won one real election in his life and lost one. Not very good odds to work off of.
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