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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-23/norman-if-paul-manafort-going-prison-tony-podesta-should-be-joining-him

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Following a lengthy jury deliberation, former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort was convicted on eight counts, including tax fraud, failure to disclose foreign bank accounts, and bank fraud – even though jurors were still hung on another ten counts:

    “If we cannot come to a consensus for a single count, how can we fill in the verdict sheet?” the jurors asked in the note.

    “It is your duty to agree upon a verdict if you can do so,” said Ellis, who encouraged each juror to make their own decisions on each count. If some were in the minority on a decision, however, they could think about the other jurors’ conclusions.

Notably, the case has nothing to do with “Trump, the Trump campaign or the 2016 US election” – it has to do with work Manafort did with former Ukranian President Victor Yanukovych from 2005-2014.  The case was referred to the federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New York (SDNY) by Special Investigator Robert Mueller… who also referred Democrat superlobbyist Tony Podesta for prosecution as part of similar work he did for Yanukovych. 

All of this begs the question – if Tony Podesta committed the same crimes as Paul Manafort, why hasn’t the SDNY brought charges against him?

Last year, Tucker Carlson exposed just how close Tony Podesta and the Podesta Group were to the Ukranian and Russian governments...

    Former Podesta Group Exec: Paul Manafort was in PG offices "all the time" representing Russian political and business interests. #RussiaGate pic.twitter.com/6dFB1MJRdP
    — ZeroPointNow (@ZeroPointNow) October 25, 2017

    "Tony Podesta was basically part of the Clinton Foundation," Podesta Group may be concealing financial transactions through art collection. pic.twitter.com/yyyo57THMJ
    — ZeroPointNow (@ZeroPointNow) October 25, 2017

...which was summed up in the below list originally complied by iBankCoin – detailing Manafort’s close ties with the Podesta Group regarding Russian/Ukranian lobbying:

        Lobbyist and temporary Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort is at the center of the Russia probe – however the scope of the investigation has broadened to include his activities prior to the 2016 election.

        Manafort worked with the Podesta Group since at least 2011 on behalf of Russian interests, and was at the Podesta Group offices “all the time, at least once a month,” peddling Russian influence through a shell group called the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine (ECMU).

        Manafort brought a “parade” of Russian oligarchs to congress for meetings with members and their staffs, however, the Russia’s “central effort” was the Obama Administration.

        In 2013, John Podesta recommended that Tony hire David Adams, Hillary Clinton’s chief adviser at the State Department, giving them a “direct liaison” between the group’s Russian clients and Hillary Clinton’s State Department.

        In late 2013 or early 2014, Tony Podesta and a representative for the Clinton Foundation met to discuss how to help Uranium One – the Russian owned company that controls 20 percent of American Uranium Production – and whose board members gave over $100 million to the Clinton Foundation.

        “Tony Podesta was basically part of the Clinton Foundation.”

        Believing she would win the 2016 election, Russia considered the Podesta Group’s connection to Hillary highly valuable.

        Podesta Group is a nebulous organization with no board oversight and all financial decisions made by Tony Podesta. Carlson’s source said payments and kickbacks could be hard for investigators to trace, describing it as a “highly secret treasure trove.” One employee’s only official job was to manage Tony Podesta’s art collection, which could be used to conceal financial transactions.

Additionally, Zerohedge explained why this list is so significant:

    …emails obtained by the Associated Press showed that Gates personally directed two Washington lobbying firms, Mercury LLC and the Podesta Group, between 2012 and 2014 to set up meetings between a top Ukrainian official and senators and congressmen on influential committees involving Ukrainian interests. Gates noted in the emails that the official, Ukraine’s foreign minister, did not want to use his own embassy in the United States to help coordinate the visits.

    And this is where the plot thickens, because while the bulk of the press has so far spun the entire Ukraine lobbying scandal, which led to Manafort’s resignation, as the latest “proof” that pro-Moscow powers were influencing not only Manafort but the Trump campaign in general (who some democrats have even painted of being a Putin agent), the reality is that a firm closely tied with the Democratic party, the Podesta Group, is just as implicated.

    As AP further adds, the European Center for a Modern Ukraine, a Brussels-linked nonprofit entity which allegely ran the lobbying project, paid Mercury and the Podesta Group a combined $2.2 million over roughly two years. In papers filed in the U.S. Senate, Mercury and the Podesta Group listed the European nonprofit as an independent, nonpolitical client. The firms said the center stated in writing that it was not aligned with any foreign political entity.

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Re: If Paul Manafort Is Going To Prison, Tony Podesta Should Be Joining Him
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2018, 02:18:24 am »
Since it has nothing to do with the Trump campaign, there’s no reason for recusal.  In that case, someone should be asking Trump appointed Geoffrey Berman why charges haven’t been brought yet.
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Re: If Paul Manafort Is Going To Prison, Tony Podesta Should Be Joining Him
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If Paul Manafort Is Going To Prison, Tony Podesta Should Be Joining Him

Perhaps the understatement of the century!
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Re: If Paul Manafort Is Going To Prison, Tony Podesta Should Be Joining Him
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2018, 02:55:21 am »
That's different!

So I'm told...

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Re: If Paul Manafort Is Going To Prison, Tony Podesta Should Be Joining Him
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2018, 03:56:47 am »
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If Paul Manafort Is Going To Prison, Tony Podesta Should Be Joining Him

If Trump were really the anti-Establishment Drain-the-Swamp President that his vocal fan club falsely claims him to be, then we wouldn't even be hearing about Paul Manafort.
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Re: If Paul Manafort Is Going To Prison, Tony Podesta Should Be Joining Him
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2018, 04:03:09 am »
Perhaps the understatement of the century!

Podesta has actual Russian connections. Thought that was what Stupid Bobby was looking for.

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Re: If Paul Manafort Is Going To Prison, Tony Podesta Should Be Joining Him
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2018, 04:15:41 am »
Podesta has actual Russian connections. Thought that was what Stupid Bobby was looking for.


WTF do you think Kilimnik and Derapaska are?
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Re: If Paul Manafort Is Going To Prison, Tony Podesta Should Be Joining Him
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2018, 04:21:24 am »

WTF do you think Kilimnik and Derapaska are?

Models of Ladas?