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Did Trump Really Save America From Socialism?
« on: August 17, 2018, 11:22:58 am »
Did Trump Really Save America From Socialism?

    Steve Baldwin

With the appearance of Death of a Nation, the must-see film by Dinesh D’Souza, a debate has begun as to the role Donald Trump plays in American history. D’Souza argues persuasively that Trump has saved America from socialism while the left and Never-Trumpers insist he has set America back. However, the events of the last few years seem strongly to support D’Souza’s view.

Americans need to understand that the shocking refusal by a major political party to accept the results of the last election and the onslaught of verbal, legal, and physical assaults the Democrats have engendered, are not specific to Donald Trump. In other words, it is now clear plans were made by Obama to exploit federal power during his presidency to give the Democrats control of our nation — perpetually. It really didn’t matter if Trump was the GOP nominee or not. In other words, the chaos we are witnessing today would not have been much different had, for example, Ted Cruz won the presidency.

Sure, the issues and the phony narratives would be different but the intensity of the attacks would be the same and the illegal politicizing of Federal agencies would probably still have occurred. There is little doubt the Dems would have created phony narratives customized for whoever the nominee was, similar to how they customized the Russian collusion hoax for Trump. This is what the establishment Republicans and the Never-Trumpers don’t understand. Long before Trump’s candidacy, total war was declared on the GOP when the Obama administration strategically created the conditions to make its progressive revolution a permanent one. Or so they thought.

First, let’s dump the naivety. Obama has been fully in charge of both the pre- and post- election attacks on Trump. He is the leader of the resistance. The idea that his appointees at the FBI, DOJ, IRS, CIA, State Department, etc., would risk committing multiple felonies without direction from him or his henchman is simply not believable as many long-time political leaders and observers have stated.

Obama’s fingerprints can be found everywhere in the widening scandal. Text messages in September, 2016, between FBI agents/lovers Peter Strzok and Lisa Page reveal that Obama “wanted to know everything we’re doing” in the course of carrying out their make-believe investigation of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for illegally using a private server and thus allowing “foreign actors” to access sensitive State Department info, according to two House committees and an internal FBI email.

continued at link:   http://spectator.org/did-trump-really-save-america-from-socialism/

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Re: Did Trump Really Save America From Socialism?
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2018, 11:55:41 am »

Yes, for the time being.

The Army did not make it easy for the peon ranks to vote in 1968. That wasn't significant given that the voting age was 21, but still.

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Re: Did Trump Really Save America From Socialism?
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2018, 02:39:03 pm »
Did Trump Really Save America From Socialism?

Yes.

It really didn’t matter if Trump was the GOP nominee or not. In other words, the chaos we are witnessing today would not have been much different had, for example, Ted Cruz won the presidency.

True.

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Re: Did Trump Really Save America From Socialism?
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2018, 02:47:23 pm »
Did Trump Really Save America From Socialism?

He slowed its roll.   Can you imagine where we would be today had the party of the Rat been able to hold the long awaited and preordained coronation of the long suffering entitled one? 

I shudder at the thought.
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Re: Did Trump Really Save America From Socialism?
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2018, 03:28:07 pm »
The inexorable trend of the Dem Party  from moderate-left, to crazy left preceded Trump by fifty years. When George McGovern received the nomination for the Dems in '72 I was a Dem at the time, but even I thought he was too far left. I can't remember who I voted for, but it wasn't McGovern. The weird people who spoke at the podium of the '72 Dem convention foretold the future of the party. Evermore steadily left and nutty.
If Cruz had been nominated and won the presidency, the same leftist/fascist forces  in America would still be steadily gaining steam and finding reasons to attack Cruz.
  For one thing, he's more conservative than Trump, and the libs/leftists would be knocking him for that.
Antifa was out attacking people before Trump was nominated. BLM was screeching about racism and police brutality before Trump began his prez campaign. The moonbat feminists and weird sex people would be assaulting him for his Christian views.

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Re: Did Trump Really Save America From Socialism?
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2018, 03:58:58 pm »
Yes, the President is undoing Obama's eight year plan to destroy America.

Don't forget to thank the voters.




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Re: Did Trump Really Save America From Socialism?
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2018, 04:05:27 pm »
Yes, the President is undoing Obama's eight year plan to destroy America.

Don't forget to thank the voters.

It was actually a minimum sixteen year plan.  By that time, the 2nd would be history and so would the electoral college...and the Supreme Court.

Damned right Donald Trump has stopped it!     
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Re: Did Trump Really Save America From Socialism?
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2018, 04:14:45 pm »
It was actually a minimum sixteen year plan.  By that time, the 2nd would be history and so would the electoral college...and the Supreme Court.

Damned right Donald Trump has stopped it!   

You will get no argument from me.   :thumbsup:

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Re: Did Trump Really Save America From Socialism?
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2018, 04:25:47 pm »
Rolling back socialism, the pro-choice movement, a lot of good things are happening.

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Re: Did Trump Really Save America From Socialism?
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2018, 05:26:22 pm »
1.3 Trillion in Deficit spending that also funds the entirety of the Democrat Agenda for the next year and another 700 Billion being authorized just this week says NO.  Trump HAS NOT saved, nor even 'slowed' Socialism.

Trump has 'saved us' from nothing. 

All he has done is to drive Socialists into fits of insanity and ignite his base into a punitive and payback-seeking horde.

If anything, I think Trump ends up becoming the new face of Big Government Socialism that everyone will call 'Conservatism' while the Democrats go full-throated Communist.

But off to the Left we continue to march to the tune of Trillions upon Trillions in debt spending, without any deceleration in sight.
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Re: Did Trump Really Save America From Socialism?
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2018, 01:28:12 am »
The question:
"Did Trump Really Save America From Socialism?"

I'm unsure if ANYONE is capable of "saving America from socialism".

The "immigrants" who have been pouring into the United States since the mid-1960's ARE "changing the demographics" of the nation. If we don't stop ALL immigration soon (with perhaps a very few exceptions), these demographic changes will become irreversible -- as will the cultural changes brought about by the new immigrants to boot.

These throngs are coming from places with no tradition or culture of freedom/free enterprise/capitalism/republican-democracy.
And many of them are not adopting and acclimating to ours as did previous immigrants from the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries.

Meanwhile, the leftist/communist education system is doing a bang-up job of properly "educating" the young as to what sort of government/economy they should prefer.

Can the slouching towards socialism be stopped?
It's too early to tell, yet.

But... Mr. Trump has slowed 'em down somewhat.
If he gets re-elected, he may be able to put the brakes on a little more.

I hope he does.

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Re: Did Trump Really Save America From Socialism?
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2018, 01:37:47 am »
Trump has 'saved us' from nothing. 

Exactly right.
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Re: Did Trump Really Save America From Socialism?
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2018, 02:56:42 am »
It can not be denied that Hillary Clinton is a socialist.
As we all remember, it was "Hillarycare" long before it was "Obamacare".
So, yes, Trump being elected did stop socialism.
We are one election away from that no longer being the case.
I have not been known as an AT and for good reason, but, yes, Trump being elected stopped socialism.........until the next democrat is elected.
If the argument is that we are already to far down the Wilson/FDR/LBJ/Clinton/Obama trail to come back, that isn't due to Trump. He just got here.
Will he lower the debt and shrink the Federal Government?
I don't know.
I hope so.
Would it be fairer to say he stopped Socialism from going further than it already has?
I suppose, but it is stopped.