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Should Trump Ask Brennan about Obama’s Birth Certificate?

https://www.thepostemail.com/2018/08/15/should-trump-ask-brennan-about-obamas-birth-certificate/

But what would Brennan say if he were asked about the “long-form” birth certificate image posted in 2011 at whitehouse.gov which a five-year criminal investigation found to be a “computer-generated forgery?”

According to lead investigator Mike Zullo, the findings ultimately caused him to conclude that “all roads lead back to John Brennan.”

Despite Zullo’s very public discoveries announced at three press conferences over the life of the investigation, the U.S. intelligence community, of which Brennan was an integral part, never launched a probe into how a fraudulent government document was uploaded to the White House website on April 27, 2011 “with the intent to deceive,” according to Zullo.

In a radio broadcast earlier this summer, Zullo said that he has personal knowledge that although he no longer publicly discusses it, Trump, the first public figure to raise Americans’ awareness of the questions surrounding Barack Obama’s presidential eligibility in 2011, has not forgotten about the issue.

But what if Trump were to ask Brennan what he knew, when he knew it, and whether or not the CIA played a role in uploading the forgery?  Would Brennan maintain his bold, “relentless” stance or suddenly find himself at a loss for words?

And while he’s at it, perhaps Trump should ask Brennan about the 2008 “breach” of Obama’s passport records.  After all, at the time, Brennan was CEO of The Analysis Corporation, whose employee reportedly accessed the file within the State Department.

“Why?” Trump could ask Brennan.

According to The Washington Post on Wednesday, a presidential historian and unnamed “security experts” called Trump’s revocation of the security clearance “unprecedented.”  But then again, so is a forgery presented as an official government document on behalf of a sitting president to an unsuspecting and duped American electorate.

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   We can't talk about the failed, fake, fraud ex-president Obama @LegalAmerican cause there's still some NT'ers out that need to be burned at the stake for their 'impurities'.

@corbe

Get over yourself. You people are only that important in your own minds.

It's a waste of time to talk about Obomber because he has already left office and you can't unring a bell,and because we need to focus our energy on people like Tim Kaine,McAuliffe,Hillary,and various and assorted fellow-travelers.

People like you will never be happy or accomplish anything because you are so focused on the past you don't have the time or energy to do anything about the present. Either that,or you just don't care about the present and the future.  Not that it matters. Either way you are irrelevant.
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Guess again.  He is still working in D.C. and undermining everything my president does.  Some want him to be our first dictator of America. Most on here who bash my president Trump, have no clue what they are doing.  The, NBP, ACLU, SPL, BLM, ANTI-FA, want him back in office.  He, Soros,CLINTOONS, all pay for RIOTS, MEDIA LIES, AND COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA.

Some on here, believe the daily lies about Trump, 24/7,,,,

@LegalAmerican

Obomber has noting to do with Trump,and has no real power to influence anybody not already in the bag for him. The Clintons are more of a danger than he is,and truth to tell,I seriously doubt the Clinton's even bother Trump. He does and says what he wants to do or say and just doesn't care what anyone else says or thinks about him.

If you want to do the nation a favor,focus on the Clintons and their running dawgs like Kaine and McAuliffe,all of whom are backing the white anarchists that are rioting because "Communism 101" states "the surest way to gain power is to create chaos."
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No claim,,fact.  Even a book by obama says, born in Kenya, and they are all so proud! Then he says it, In Kenya and manchells on video. It seems this site is protected from truth.  So much information on this.  That is why obama sued Joe on trumped up charge.

Sure it is, just like the tooth fairy.

I thought that it might be at one time, then I wized up.

It was well over a year ago the Joe Arpiao was going to Washington and was going release this information"Any day now".
His definition of "any day" and mine are years apart.
That's why I joke and say he must be taking it by Wagon Train, because it hasn't managed to find its way there yet.

I'll say this:

Everyone who is convinced of this, and claims the truth is out there, Like Scully and Mulder, I have a couple of questions:

What is taking Sheriff Joe, Orly, Apuzzo, etc., so long to release this?
What are they waiting for?

Don't tell me the midterms, because that would be B.S.
With the Trump Clinton race so tight, that would have been the time to release it, but, no.
Are they scared?
Of what?
Not very patriotic, if the are.
There's no "Give me Liberty or Give Me Death" in this crowd.
Wimps?
Maybe.

They just don't have the goods.
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Sheriff Joe and Mike Zullo are late comers. Most of their information was presented in their videos. Orly, Mario, Leo, Phillip and many more lawyers have filed many state and federal suits as well as primary ballot challenges. Orly mailed an information package to every legislator in the House and Senate.

Just take a look. Most of the challenges are here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_presidential_eligibility_litigation

They have the goods. The system is totally corrupt.

No one should of had to prove Obama was ineligible. Obama should of had to prove he was.

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Sheriff Joe and Mike Zullo are late comers. Most of their information was presented in their videos. Orly, Mario, Leo, Phillip and many more lawyers have filed many state and federal suits as well as primary ballot challenges. Orly mailed an information package to every legislator in the House and Senate.

Just take a look. Most of the challenges are here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_presidential_eligibility_litigation


They have the goods. The system is totally corrupt.

No one should of had to prove Obama was ineligible. Obama should of had to prove he was.

Halalujah!  and   :amen:
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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Sheriff Joe and Mike Zullo are late comers. Most of their information was presented in their videos. Orly, Mario, Leo, Phillip and many more lawyers have filed many state and federal suits as well as primary ballot challenges. Orly mailed an information package to every legislator in the House and Senate.

Just take a look. Most of the challenges are here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_presidential_eligibility_litigation

They have the goods. The system is totally corrupt.

No one should of had to prove Obama was ineligible. Obama should of had to prove he was.

I was a member of TOS when the story broke, and the detailed explanation of Birth Certificate forgery.
I was intrigued.
I used to look forward to the different post.
I just find it hard to believe that there is not one judge out there who would not hear this case if the evidence, is indeed, fact.
There has got to be at least one, but 10 years in now, there isn't one to be found?
The odds are that you would find at least one.

I will take a second look at it, and what is on the link you've provided.
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I was a member of TOS when the story broke, and the detailed explanation of Birth Certificate forgery.
I was intrigued.
I used to look forward to the different post.
I just find it hard to believe that there is not one judge out there who would not hear this case if the evidence, is indeed, fact.
There has got to be at least one, but 10 years in now, there isn't one to be found?
The odds are that you would fine at least one.

I will take a second look at it, and what you is on the link you've provided.

@GrouchoTex

You really don't need to look at anything other than the last line of the post you quoted!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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@GrouchoTex

You really don't need to look at anything other than the last line of the post you quoted!

Well, yeah, I'd like to think that was mandatory.

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@corbe

Get over yourself. You people are only that important in your own minds.

It's a waste of time to talk about Obomber because he has already left office and you can't unring a bell,and because we need to focus our energy on people like Tim Kaine,McAuliffe,Hillary,and various and assorted fellow-travelers.

People like you will never be happy or accomplish anything because you are so focused on the past you don't have the time or energy to do anything about the present. Either that,or you just don't care about the present and the future.  Not that it matters. Either way you are irrelevant.

I can't agree with you about Obama.  I know he's not in office anymore but he has not 'gone away.'

He's still plotting to destroy America both outwardly and by his influence on the swamp creatures he put in various positions of power.

We need to bring out the truth about Obama if we possibly can.  I want everyone to know what a total fraud he was.
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   We can't talk about the failed, fake, fraud ex-president Obama @LegalAmerican cause there's still some NT'ers out that need to be burned at the stake for their 'impurities'.

So bitter @corbe.  I had to go back 2 pages to find the comment that infuriated @sneakypete but it was typically 'corbe.'

I think your problem is that, while part of you wants to be fair and recognizes that Trump has done some good things, the other part is far more sympathetic to the NTers here.

Out of context but I will not forgive you easily for lumping me in with the Ghost as an abuser of Victoria33.  She despises me but I still came to her defense against Ghost and you made me a co-conspirator.   
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I can't agree with you about Obama.  I know he's not in office anymore but he has not 'gone away.'

He's still plotting to destroy America both outwardly and by his influence on the swamp creatures he put in various positions of power.

We need to bring out the truth about Obama if we possibly can.  I want everyone to know what a total fraud he was.


Un ring a bell?

Probably not.

But his name can be erased from all the obelisks.
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Sure it is, just like the tooth fairy.

I thought that it might be at one time, then I wized up.

It was well over a year ago the Joe Arpiao was going to Washington and was going release this information"Any day now".
His definition of "any day" and mine are years apart.
That's why I joke and say he must be taking it by Wagon Train, because it hasn't managed to find its way there yet.

I'll say this:

Everyone who is convinced of this, and claims the truth is out there, Like Scully and Mulder, I have a couple of questions:

What is taking Sheriff Joe, Orly, Apuzzo, etc., so long to release this?
What are they waiting for?

Don't tell me the midterms, because that would be B.S.
With the Trump Clinton race so tight, that would have been the time to release it, but, no.
Are they scared?
Of what?
Not very patriotic, if the are.
There's no "Give me Liberty or Give Me Death" in this crowd.
Wimps?
Maybe.

They just don't have the goods.

Oh, but they do have lots of "goods," Grouch. (LOL)

If you followed this mess as carefully as I have over the years, you will remember that Arpaio and Zullo held more than one well-attended press conference in which they publicly released evidence of a birthplace fraud by Obama.  You should also remember from the videos of the press conferences (which videos I assume you watched) that the evidence presented by Zullo included some pretty serious stuff.

With those realities as a context, I believe that the most important thing that you should also recall is that these pressers got ZERO news coverage.  That's UNCANNY, my friend Groucho.  It was arguably the most vicious case of media STONEWALLING in American history.  You surely noticed that--only to have forgotten it more recently in your understandable frustration, I guess.  (In other words, your own odyssey is proof that conspiratorial stonewalling tends to work very well indeed.)

Concurrently with the media stonewalling, you should also recall that Arpaio sent transcripts and supporting documentation to everyone in Congress.  Even that step could not find a weak spot in the WALL. The cowardice that you assigned to Arpaio and Taitz was actually a conspiracy of COWARDS IN WASHINGTON.   Congress flatly refused to follow up on serious evidence;  they let the media stonewalling provide cover for their cowardice.  You have failed to connect those dots--at least not in an appropriately solid way.

By the way, the FBI was a big part of the conspiracy;  after all, it was OBAMA'S FBI.  As recent events have proven beyond the shadow of any doubt, the top officials of Obama's FBI were SOCIALIST CROOKS.  Surely you have noticed that.  (Again, connect the "highly suggestive" dots.  It's not a bad idea.  Heck, it's the right idea.  In fact, it's necessary under the swampy circumstances.)

My bottom-line point is that the Birthers have been elucidating one of the most audacious and dangerous conspiracies ever implemented against our Republic.  I don't think you followed the overall mess carefully enough to let that sink in--and stay in.  Like so many other folks who initially thought that there might be something to the Birthers' claims, you eventually wound up concluding from the succession of revelatory failures that you were mistaken about that.

Again, I get that.  However, I respectfully submit that you have gotten fooled by the walls of the conspiracy.  Most of the lawsuits by Taitz et al, were thrown out on technicalities of "legal standing.   A couple of the cases were quickly dismissed due to courtroom errors by a brave but less-than-experienced attorney, Dr. Orly Taitz.  And some of the cases were thrown out by judges who were probably just plain bent in favor of Obama--or perhaps even scared of Obama.  The validity of the Long Form BC cobbled together in a decidedly non-timely response to Trump's demand a few years ago has never been adjudicated.  This is a terrible travesty.  The overall legend of Obama's life story is horribly phony, and the Birth Certficate forgery is the lynchpin of the investigation that has been ignored by almost everyone. 

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I do recall Arpaio's Lt. Mike Zullo making a promise that he wound up not keeping a couple of years ago, after having promised that "universe-shattering evidence" would be released soon.  It didn't happen as he promised, to be sure, but he did make a careful revelation last year of some of that very evidence.  It turns out that one of the world's leading documents firms have proven that the famous Long Form Birth Certificate was a forgery.  They have shown precisely how the document was built from another person's BC in the Hawaiian archives. 

Most "shattering" of all, perhaps, an internet trail strongly suggests that the CIA was somehow involved in the production of the forgery.  (That is especially interesting at this time considering the recent buzz from other sources that Trump needs to have John Brennan investigated concerning the forged Birth Certificate.)

I don't know why the latest disclosures by Zullo were so long delayed.  But releasing the info during the 2016 would not clearly have helped Trump beat Hillary.   I suspect it probably would have distracted the public from serious attention to Hillary's crimes.

Anyway, Zullo's promise came at a bad time for Arpaio in ways that might not be comprehensible; for another thing, Zullo may have stumbled onto other evidence that dictated a need for special investigative caution.  Furthermore, and probably most important of all, Zullo insinuated last year that it was critically important for the Deep State to be drained quite a lot before any more aggressive public action could be taken.  (Evidently, he was waiting for Trump to clean up the FBI, the CIA, and the DOJ.  Perhaps he even believed that it would be necessary to let the 2018 elections clean up Congress, too.  Probably at least half of our Congress critters are either crooks or victims of Deep State extortion.  An unprecedented number have resigned or declined to run for re-election since Trump took office.)

I recommend that you re-think your grouchiness (ha!) and get back on board with the Birthers.  The Birthers, especially the Texas Birthers, it seems, are correct.  (Please read my earlier posts, as well as @Sanguine's and @Elderberry 's.)           
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I can't agree with you about Obama.  I know he's not in office anymore but he has not 'gone away.'

He's still plotting to destroy America both outwardly and by his influence on the swamp creatures he put in various positions of power.

We need to bring out the truth about Obama if we possibly can.  I want everyone to know what a total fraud he was.

Attaboy, @Emjay.

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@corbe

Get over yourself. You people are only that important in your own minds.

It's a waste of time to talk about Obomber because he has already left office and you can't unring a bell,and because we need to focus our energy on people like Tim Kaine,McAuliffe,Hillary,and various and assorted fellow-travelers.

People like you will never be happy or accomplish anything because you are so focused on the past you don't have the time or energy to do anything about the present. Either that,or you just don't care about the present and the future.  Not that it matters. Either way you are irrelevant.

Well you do know that President Trump was the leader of the birther movement against Barack don't you?  What do you think about Trump now wanting new investigation into Hillary?  If you can't go back and unring the bell.  I think you could if it could be proven Obama was illegitimate.  Everything he did was illegitimate.

AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Well you do know that President Trump was the leader of the birther movement against Barack don't you?  What do you think about Trump now wanting new investigation into Hillary?  If you can't go back and unring the bell.  I think you could if it could be proven Obama was illegitimate.  Everything he did was illegitimate.

It will be a big mess to untangle the legal mess of illegal appointments and illegal executive orders and illegal legislations, but we definitely need to slog through the whole mess.

Besides, we need to mete out retributive justice against Obama and everyone else who was complicit in every facet of the overall conspiracy to ruin our Republic--the birthplace fraud necessarily included.

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Just food for thought. The real Russian connection besides Hillary.
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The First Time I Heard Of Barack
By Tom Fife
11-20-8
 
During the period of roughly February 1992 to mid 1994, I was making frequent trips to Moscow, Russia, in the process of starting a software development joint-venture company with some people from the Russian scientific community. One of the men in charge on the Russian side was named V. M.; he had a wife named T.M.
 
V. was a level-headed scientist while his wife was rather deeply committed to the losing Communist cause - a cause she obviously was not abandoning.
 
One evening, during a trip early in 1992, the American half of our venture were invited to V. & T.'s Moscow flat as we were about to return to the States. The party went well and we had the normal dinner discussions.
 
As the evening wore on, T. developed a decidedly rough anti-American edge - one her husband tried to quietly rein in.
 
The bottom line of the tirade she started against the United States went something like this:
 
"You Americans always like to think that you have the perfect government and your people are always so perfect. Well then, why haven't you had a woman president by now? You had a chance to vote for a woman vice-president and you didn't do it."
 
The general response went something along the lines that you don't vote for someone just because of their sex. Besides, you don't vote for vice-president, but the president and vice-president as a ticket.
 
"Well, I think you are going to be surprised when you get a black president very soon."
 
The consensus we expressed was that we didn't think there was anything innately barring that. The right person at the right time and sure, America would try to vote for the right person, be he or she black or not.
 
"What if I told you that you will have a black president very soon and he will be a Communist?"
 
The out-of-the-blue remark was met by our stares. She continued, "Well, you will; and he will be a Communist."
 
It was then that the husband unsuccessfully tried to change the subject; but she was on a roll and would have nothing of it. One of us asked, "It sounds like you know something we don't know."
 
"Yes, it is true. This is not some idle talk. He is already born and he is educated and being groomed to be president right now. You will be impressed to know that he has gone to the best schools of Presidents. He is what you call "Ivy League". You don't believe me, but he is real and I even know his name. His name is Barack. His mother is white and American and his father is black from Africa. That's right, a chocolate baby! And he's going to be your President."
 
She became more and more smug as she presented her stream of detailed knowledge and predictions so matter-of-factly - as though all were foregone conclusions. "It's all been thought out. His father is not an American black so he won't have that social slave stigma. He is intelligent and he is half white and has been raised from the cradle to be an atheist and a Communist. He's gone to the finest schools. He is being guided every step of the way and he will be irresistible to America."
 
We sat there not knowing what to say. She was obviously very happy that the Communists were doing this and that it would somehow be a thumbing of their collective noses at America: they would give us a black president and he'd be a Communist to boot. She made it quite obvious that she thought that this was going to breathe new life into world Communism. From this and other conversations with her, she always asserted that Communism was far from dead.
 
She was full of little details about him that she was eager to relate. I thought that maybe she was trying to show off that this truly was a real person and not just hot air.
 
She rattled off a complete litany. He was from Hawaii. He went to school in California. He lived in Chicago. He was soon to be elected to the legislature. "Have no doubt: he is one of us, a Soviet."
 
At one point, she related some sort of San Francisco connection, but I didn't understand what the point was and don't recall much about that. I was just left with the notion that she considered the city to be some sort of a center for their activity here.
 
Since I had dabbled in languages, I knew a smattering of Arabic. I made a comment: "If I remember correctly, 'Barack' comes from the Arabic word for 'Blessing.' That seems to be an odd name for an American." She replied quickly, "Yes. It is 'African'", she insisted, "and he will be a blessing for world Communism. We will regain our strength and become the number one power in the world."
 
She continued with something to the effect that America was at the same time the great hope and the great obstacle for Communism. America would have to be converted to Communism and Barack was going to pave the way.
 
So, what does this conversation from 1992 prove?
 
Well, it's definitely anecdotal. It doesn't prove that Obama has had Soviet Communist training nor that he was groomed to be the first black American president, but it does show one thing that I think is very important. It shows that Soviet Russian Communists knew of Barack from a very early date. It also shows that they truly believed among themselves that he was raised and groomed Communist to pave the way for their future. This report on Barack came personally to me from one of them long before America knew he existed.
 
Although I had never before heard of him, at the time of this conversation Obama was 30+ years old and was obviously tested enough that he was their anticipated rising star.
 
 
Tom Fife

I believe it.  He was partially raised by grandparent who lived on Mercer Island and attended the church they called "little red church on the hill".  Communist. 

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2008/12/obama_from_unitarian_to_libera_1.html

His mother was groomed by communist professors.  He was definitely groomed Communist.
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It will be a big mess to untangle the legal mess of illegal appointments and illegal executive orders and illegal legislations, but we definitely need to slog through the whole mess.

Besides, we need to mete out retributive justice against Obama and everyone else who was complicit in every facet of the overall conspiracy to ruin our Republic--the birthplace fraud necessarily included.

If he was illegitimate it should be done.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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I was a member of TOS when the story broke, and the detailed explanation of Birth Certificate forgery.
I was intrigued.
I used to look forward to the different post.
I just find it hard to believe that there is not one judge out there who would not hear this case if the evidence, is indeed, fact.
There has got to be at least one, but 10 years in now, there isn't one to be found?
The odds are that you would find at least one.

I will take a second look at it, and what is on the link you've provided.


Obama’s Kenyan Birth Certificate


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/barack-obama-half-brother-malik-kenya-birth-certificate-tweet-donald-trump-supporter-a7622346.html


If you could understand Kenyan you might hear what his grandmother said about him.  Trump said that she proclaimed Obama was born in Kenya.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEbKd0DbBbw

I honestly believe he was.  They say he is Kenya’s son.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Just food for thought. The real Russian connection besides Hillary.
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The First Time I Heard Of Barack
By Tom Fife
11-20-8
 
During the period of roughly February 1992 to mid 1994, I was making frequent trips to Moscow, Russia, in the process of starting a software development joint-venture company with some people from the Russian scientific community. One of the men in charge on the Russian side was named V. M.; he had a wife named T.M.
 
V. was a level-headed scientist while his wife was rather deeply committed to the losing Communist cause - a cause she obviously was not abandoning.
 
One evening, during a trip early in 1992, the American half of our venture were invited to V. & T.'s Moscow flat as we were about to return to the States. The party went well and we had the normal dinner discussions.
 
As the evening wore on, T. developed a decidedly rough anti-American edge - one her husband tried to quietly rein in.
 
The bottom line of the tirade she started against the United States went something like this:
 
"You Americans always like to think that you have the perfect government and your people are always so perfect. Well then, why haven't you had a woman president by now? You had a chance to vote for a woman vice-president and you didn't do it."
 
The general response went something along the lines that you don't vote for someone just because of their sex. Besides, you don't vote for vice-president, but the president and vice-president as a ticket.
 
"Well, I think you are going to be surprised when you get a black president very soon."
 
The consensus we expressed was that we didn't think there was anything innately barring that. The right person at the right time and sure, America would try to vote for the right person, be he or she black or not.
 
"What if I told you that you will have a black president very soon and he will be a Communist?"
 
The out-of-the-blue remark was met by our stares. She continued, "Well, you will; and he will be a Communist."
 
It was then that the husband unsuccessfully tried to change the subject; but she was on a roll and would have nothing of it. One of us asked, "It sounds like you know something we don't know."
 
"Yes, it is true. This is not some idle talk. He is already born and he is educated and being groomed to be president right now. You will be impressed to know that he has gone to the best schools of Presidents. He is what you call "Ivy League". You don't believe me, but he is real and I even know his name. His name is Barack. His mother is white and American and his father is black from Africa. That's right, a chocolate baby! And he's going to be your President."
 
She became more and more smug as she presented her stream of detailed knowledge and predictions so matter-of-factly - as though all were foregone conclusions. "It's all been thought out. His father is not an American black so he won't have that social slave stigma. He is intelligent and he is half white and has been raised from the cradle to be an atheist and a Communist. He's gone to the finest schools. He is being guided every step of the way and he will be irresistible to America."
 
We sat there not knowing what to say. She was obviously very happy that the Communists were doing this and that it would somehow be a thumbing of their collective noses at America: they would give us a black president and he'd be a Communist to boot. She made it quite obvious that she thought that this was going to breathe new life into world Communism. From this and other conversations with her, she always asserted that Communism was far from dead.
 
She was full of little details about him that she was eager to relate. I thought that maybe she was trying to show off that this truly was a real person and not just hot air.
 
She rattled off a complete litany. He was from Hawaii. He went to school in California. He lived in Chicago. He was soon to be elected to the legislature. "Have no doubt: he is one of us, a Soviet."
 
At one point, she related some sort of San Francisco connection, but I didn't understand what the point was and don't recall much about that. I was just left with the notion that she considered the city to be some sort of a center for their activity here.
 
Since I had dabbled in languages, I knew a smattering of Arabic. I made a comment: "If I remember correctly, 'Barack' comes from the Arabic word for 'Blessing.' That seems to be an odd name for an American." She replied quickly, "Yes. It is 'African'", she insisted, "and he will be a blessing for world Communism. We will regain our strength and become the number one power in the world."
 
She continued with something to the effect that America was at the same time the great hope and the great obstacle for Communism. America would have to be converted to Communism and Barack was going to pave the way.
 
So, what does this conversation from 1992 prove?
 
Well, it's definitely anecdotal. It doesn't prove that Obama has had Soviet Communist training nor that he was groomed to be the first black American president, but it does show one thing that I think is very important. It shows that Soviet Russian Communists knew of Barack from a very early date. It also shows that they truly believed among themselves that he was raised and groomed Communist to pave the way for their future. This report on Barack came personally to me from one of them long before America knew he existed.
 
Although I had never before heard of him, at the time of this conversation Obama was 30+ years old and was obviously tested enough that he was their anticipated rising star.
 
 
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"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Oh, but they do have lots of "goods," Grouch. (LOL)

If you followed this mess as carefully as I have over the years, you will remember that Arpaio and Zullo held more than one well-attended press conference in which they publicly released evidence of a birthplace fraud by Obama.  You should also remember from the videos of the press conferences (which videos I assume you watched) that the evidence presented by Zullo included some pretty serious stuff.

With those realities as a context, I believe that the most important thing that you should also recall is that these pressers got ZERO news coverage.  That's UNCANNY, my friend Groucho.  It was arguably the most vicious case of media STONEWALLING in American history.  You surely noticed that--only to have forgotten it more recently in your understandable frustration, I guess.  (In other words, your own odyssey is proof that conspiratorial stonewalling tends to work very well indeed.)

Concurrently with the media stonewalling, you should also recall that Arpaio sent transcripts and supporting documentation to everyone in Congress.  Even that step could not find a weak spot in the WALL. The cowardice that you assigned to Arpaio and Taitz was actually a conspiracy of COWARDS IN WASHINGTON.   Congress flatly refused to follow up on serious evidence;  they let the media stonewalling provide cover for their cowardice.  You have failed to connect those dots--at least not in an appropriately solid way.

By the way, the FBI was a big part of the conspiracy;  after all, it was OBAMA'S FBI.  As recent events have proven beyond the shadow of any doubt, the top officials of Obama's FBI were SOCIALIST CROOKS.  Surely you have noticed that.  (Again, connect the "highly suggestive" dots.  It's not a bad idea.  Heck, it's the right idea.  In fact, it's necessary under the swampy circumstances.)

My bottom-line point is that the Birthers have been elucidating one of the most audacious and dangerous conspiracies ever implemented against our Republic.  I don't think you followed the overall mess carefully enough to let that sink in--and stay in.  Like so many other folks who initially thought that there might be something to the Birthers' claims, you eventually wound up concluding from the succession of revelatory failures that you were mistaken about that.

Again, I get that.  However, I respectfully submit that you have gotten fooled by the walls of the conspiracy.  Most of the lawsuits by Taitz et al, were thrown out on technicalities of "legal standing.   A couple of the cases were quickly dismissed due to courtroom errors by a brave but less-than-experienced attorney, Dr. Orly Taitz.  And some of the cases were thrown out by judges who were probably just plain bent in favor of Obama--or perhaps even scared of Obama.  The validity of the Long Form BC cobbled together in a decidedly non-timely response to Trump's demand a few years ago has never been adjudicated.  This is a terrible travesty.  The overall legend of Obama's life story is horribly phony, and the Birth Certficate forgery is the lynchpin of the investigation that has been ignored by almost everyone. 

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I do recall Arpaio's Lt. Mike Zullo making a promise that he wound up not keeping a couple of years ago, after having promised that "universe-shattering evidence" would be released soon.  It didn't happen as he promised, to be sure, but he did make a careful revelation last year of some of that very evidence.  It turns out that one of the world's leading documents firms have proven that the famous Long Form Birth Certificate was a forgery.  They have shown precisely how the document was built from another person's BC in the Hawaiian archives. 

Most "shattering" of all, perhaps, an internet trail strongly suggests that the CIA was somehow involved in the production of the forgery.  (That is especially interesting at this time considering the recent buzz from other sources that Trump needs to have John Brennan investigated concerning the forged Birth Certificate.)

I don't know why the latest disclosures by Zullo were so long delayed.  But releasing the info during the 2016 would not clearly have helped Trump beat Hillary.   I suspect it probably would have distracted the public from serious attention to Hillary's crimes.

Anyway, Zullo's promise came at a bad time for Arpaio in ways that might not be comprehensible; for another thing, Zullo may have stumbled onto other evidence that dictated a need for special investigative caution.  Furthermore, and probably most important of all, Zullo insinuated last year that it was critically important for the Deep State to be drained quite a lot before any more aggressive public action could be taken.  (Evidently, he was waiting for Trump to clean up the FBI, the CIA, and the DOJ.  Perhaps he even believed that it would be necessary to let 2018 elections to clean up Congress, too.  Probably at least half of our Congress critters are either crooks or victims of Deep State extortion.  An unprecedented number have resigned or declined to run for re-election since Trump took office.)

I recommend that you re-think your grouchiness (ha!) and get back on board with the Birthers.  The Birthers, especially the Texas Birthers, it seems, are correct.  (Please read my earlier posts, as well as @Sanguine's and @Elderberry 's.)         

I'm willing to take another look.

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I'm willing to take another look.

I'm not at all surprised at your courteous, thoughtful response, because I have long regarded you as a fine Son of Texas.  (Puh-leez don't tell me you were actually born in Africa!)

As an important aside, I don't insist that you become a dogmatic, flaming Birther.  And I don't expect you to do anything in a hurry.  Besides, I honestly don't think any of us will have too long to wait before everything about Obama becomes clear as a bell. 

Obama is a truly amazing con man serving on point for the most massive, heavily-funded, shrewdly staffed, and virulently anti-American conspiracy in history.  In short, the whole thing is almost too bad to be true.