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Puerto Rico says hurricane death toll 20 times higher than first reported
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/401041-puerto-rico-admits-hurricane-death-toll-20-times-higher-than-it
08/09/18

The Puerto Rican government acknowledged in a new report in the aftermath of Hurricane Maria that more than 1,400 people likely died on the island because of the storm, roughly 20 times the previous number that had been provided.

The government on Thursday published a report titled "Transformation and Innovation in the Wake of Devastation," which outlines the island's response to the storm and what it intends to do to strengthen its economy and infrastructure moving forward. It also includes new estimates on the death toll.

“Although the official death count from the Puerto Rico Department of Public Safety was initially 64, the toll appears to be much higher,” the report stated.

“According to initial reports, 64 lives were lost. That estimate was later revised to 1,427," it added in a separate section.

Pedro Cerame, a spokesman for the Puerto Rican Federal Affairs Administration, told The New York Times that the latest death toll figure is unofficial, but is a "realistic estimate....
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Show me the bodies.  Till then it is all BS.
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https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/data/tcr/AL152017_Maria.pdf

...Maria’s peak intensity of 150 kt is based on a blend of SFMR-observed surface winds of
152 kt and 700-mb flight-level winds of 157 kt. Maria’s 65-kt intensity increase over 24 h on 18
September makes it tied for the sixth-fastest intensifying hurricane in the Atlantic basin record.
The intensity of the hurricane when it struck Dominica, 145 kt, is based on an SFMRobserved
surface wind of 152 kt which, based on quality control by data processing software, is
believed to be somewhat inflated, and a maximum 10-min wind of 130 kt measured at Douglas-Charles Airport on the island, which conservatively corresponds to a 1-min wind of 143 kt. Maria
is the strongest hurricane on record to make landfall on Dominica (or strike within 60 n mi of that
island).

Maria’s minimum central pressure of 908 mb is based on an eye dropsonde measurement
by the Air Force Hurricane Hunters of 910 mb with 23-kt winds at the surface at 0313 UTC 20
September. This is the lowest pressure on record of any hurricane in the Atlantic basin east of
70°W, and breaks the record that had been set just a couple of weeks earlier by Irma of 914 mb.
The landfall intensity of the cyclone in Puerto Rico, 135 kt, is based on an extrapolation of
the weakening trend noted in the aircraft data after the eyewall replacement began several hours
earlier. There were no believable Doppler-derived winds from the San Juan WSR-88D radar that
supported a higher intensity. It should be noted, however, that in Puerto Rico, winds of category
5 intensity were almost certainly felt at some elevated locations on the island.

The landfall pressures of the hurricane in Dominica and Puerto Rico of 922 and 920 mb,
respectively, are based on an extrapolation of the system’s deepening and filling trends before
making landfall in those islands. Several storm chasers observed pressures higher than the
estimated minimum value in Puerto Rico, but these observers were not thought to be in the exact
center of the hurricane. Maria is the strongest hurricane to make landfall in Puerto Rico since a
category 5 hurricane in 1928 (known as Segundo San Felipe).

Maria’s eyewall replacement early on 20 September resulted in roughly a tripling of its eye
diameter, from 9 n mi to about 28 n mi, prior to landfall in Puerto Rico. This event was likely a
major contributor to weakening, but also increased the areal exposure of the island to the
hurricane’s highest winds....

... heavier rainfall occurred in Puerto Rico, where one location had a storm total of
nearly 38 inches (Fig. 8). River discharges at many locations in the island were at record or nearrecord
levels. Severe flooding and mud slides affected most of the island, with the most significant
flooding associated with the La Plata River....

...The NOAA estimate of damage in
Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands due to Maria is 90 billion dollars, with a 90% confidence
range of +/-$25.0 billion, or $65.0-$115.0 billion, which makes Maria the third costliest hurricane
in U.S. history, behind Katrina (2005) and Harvey (2017). Maria is by far the most destructive
hurricane to hit Puerto Rico in modern times, as the previous costliest hurricane on record for the
island was Georges in 1998, which in 2017 dollars “only” caused about 5 billion dollars of damage....
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Show me the bodies.  Till then it is all BS.

Like the 1900 storm of Galveston, not all those bodies will remain on land.
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Like the 1900 storm of Galveston, not all those bodies will remain on land.

How is a life insurance policy collected upon without a body?  How many years must expire?

It's a 'perfect' cover for fraud and/or murder. 
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How is a life insurance policy collected upon without a body?  How many years must expire?

It's a 'perfect' cover for murder.

Also, most of these deaths were after the storm was gone, but the island was in such poor condition people died from lack of medical care, etc.  Basically saying they were killed by the storm, but didn't die during the storm.

Official Toll in Puerto Rico: 64.
Actual Deaths May Be 1,052.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/12/08/us/puerto-rico-hurricane-maria-death-toll.html?action=click&module=RelatedCoverage&pgtype=Article&region=Footer
DEC. 9, 2017

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That makes sense.  Thanks.   
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Yeah, and we also found out that the corruption in Puerto Rico is 20 times higher than previously thought.

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Yeah, and we also found out that the corruption in Puerto Rico is 20 times higher than previously thought.
Texas and Florida both recovered quickly from similar hurricanes the same year.

It wasn't the feds. It wasn't the hurricanes themselves. The only entity that can be blamed for Puerto Rico's failure to rebuild is Puerto Rico itself.
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Texas and Florida both recovered quickly from similar hurricanes the same year.

It wasn't the feds. It wasn't the hurricanes themselves. The only entity that can be blamed for Puerto Rico's failure to rebuild is Puerto Rico itself.

Being an island and having major port damage might also be a contributing factor.

In Texas following Harvey, we had utilities crews from many different states show up to help with the rebuild of the power lines.  Tough to drive a Bucket Truck and Pole Line rig to Puerto Rico.
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Also, most of these deaths were after the storm was gone, but the island was in such poor condition people died from lack of medical care, etc.  Basically saying they were killed by the storm, but didn't die during the storm.

Official Toll in Puerto Rico: 64.
Actual Deaths May Be 1,052.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/12/08/us/puerto-rico-hurricane-maria-death-toll.html?action=click&module=RelatedCoverage&pgtype=Article&region=Footer
DEC. 9, 2017

I was wondering if that may be the case.

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Texas and Florida both recovered quickly from similar hurricanes the same year.

It wasn't the feds. It wasn't the hurricanes themselves. The only entity that can be blamed for Puerto Rico's failure to rebuild is Puerto Rico itself.

Exactly.  The corruption in Puerto Rico and its failing infrastructure to being with is mainly to blame for its colossal failure to adequately rebuild itself.

There have been several videos and news reports of the mayor of Puerto Rico NOT allowing aid to those in more rural areas and reports of stored goods in facilities that should have been distributed to those in need.

In July of this year, a Puerto Rico mayor and two others were arrested on corruption charges that involve a total of $8 million in federal and local funds.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/puerto-rico-mayor-two-others-arrested-on-corruption-charges/


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Being an island and having major port damage might also be a contributing factor.

In Texas following Harvey, we had utilities crews from many different states show up to help with the rebuild of the power lines.  Tough to drive a Bucket Truck and Pole Line rig to Puerto Rico.

Centerpoint sent some trucks and crews to PR in December. I imagine that there was a lot of port and road repair that had to be done before the crews and trucks could get to where they needed to be to make the repairs.  https://abc13.com/houston-centerpoint-crews-help-restore-power-in-puerto-rico/2983449/

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Yeah, and we also found out that the corruption in Puerto Rico is 20 times higher than previously thought.

They are trying to exploit the midterm elections. They want every Dem Liberal pledging to give more money to PR. And even if they do give PR 20 times more money, still only a penny out of every dollar will go to help the victims or to rebuild. The rest will be stolen.

And the people who steal it will be anywhere in the world living like kings. The only thing certain is that they will not be in Puerto Rico.
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"Puerto Rico says hurricane death toll 20 times higher than first reported"

Sumthin' tells me this is "all about the money"...

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Centerpoint sent some trucks and crews to PR in December. I imagine that there was a lot of port and road repair that had to be done before the crews and trucks could get to where they needed to be to make the repairs.  https://abc13.com/houston-centerpoint-crews-help-restore-power-in-puerto-rico/2983449/

A lot of electric utilities sent people and equipment for repair.  Also some private electric power construction companies sent some people.  But it was more limited in what was sent compared to what rolled into Texas and Florida.  Not to mention, Maria coming just after Harvey and Irma had less stock material to draw from.  On hand supplies were getting thin at this point.
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"Puerto Rico says hurricane death toll 20 times higher than first reported"

Sumthin' tells me this is "all about the money"...

It tells me, the PR government was trying to hide how bad they handled it from the beginning.
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